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Trump is to Reagan

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as Obama is to Carter
as Bush is to LBJ
as Clinton is to Kennedy
as Regan is to...

So Trump is an actor, his wife an actress. About like the Reagans.

What characterized Carter's reign?
Health care.
Weakness with the USSR
Energy
Something to do with Middle East and Trrorism

These things characterized Obama's reign as well...

Bush fueled the war Machine, as did LBJ.
Had inappropriate wars, and so on.

Clinton with Lewinsky, Kennedy with Marylin.

Those of you old enough to remember, will remember Reagan being mocked for his acting career, as "Bonzo," senility, etc..

Trump has a similar start. Will Trump be a hero after 2, 4, 8+ years?

And, are these distressing analogies God's plan, mans' plan or coinkidink?

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Re: Trump is to Reagan

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Willum wrote: as Obama is to Carter
as Bush is to LBJ
as Clinton is to Kennedy
as Regan is to...

So Trump is an actor, his wife an actress. About like the Reagans.

What characterized Carter's reign?
Health care.
Weakness with the USSR
Energy
Something to do with Middle East and Trrorism

These things characterized Obama's reign as well...

Bush fueled the war Machine, as did LBJ.
Had inappropriate wars, and so on.

Clinton with Lewinsky, Kennedy with Marylin.

Those of you old enough to remember, will remember Reagan being mocked for his acting career, as "Bonzo," senility, etc..

Trump has a similar start. Will Trump be a hero after 2, 4, 8+ years?

And, are these distressing analogies God's plan, mans' plan or coinkidink?
Carter had something to do with the middle east and terrorism? Something?

US and western relations with Iran have never been good. Carter created the present antagonistic environment that now exists between America and Iran, but it was President Eisenhower that sowed the seeds of it. In the mid-1950's, the newly created C.I.A. secured it's first successful coup d'etat by overthrowing the government of Iran. President Eisenhower supported the action.

Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi was installed on the peacock throne - a man who bathed his hands in the blood of his own people. He was a despot in every sense of the word and when he became ill with the cancer that eventually killed him - CARTER allowed him into the US for treatment (that failed). The Shah should have ended his days in Tehrah at the hand of his own people. It was Jimmy Carter who opened the door to hostile relations with Iran and it was Carter who approved a failed attempt to release captured American diplomats in Tehran.

Iran is the keystone of post WWII American foreign policy. It demonstrated to our allies and enemies alike that America talked about furthering democracy, but supported and acted upon the furtherance of global fascist despotism. It is easier to manipulate a dictator than a democratic parliament and it's the intelligence community that guides many of our actions and much of our policy.

On January 20, 2017 we were witness to the installation of executive middle management of the government of the United States. What escapes most folks is that it didn't matter WHO was elected; Bush, Clinton, Sanders or Trump. POTUS acts on orders and influences dictated to him by the real deciders of policy in America. It is no mystery who really runs the country; the military-industrial complex, the financial cartel, elected leadership and the intelligence community.

Make no mistake, America is a fascist police state. We are deep into it and the sludge that we stand in is getting deeper.

There is a reason why the first visit of President Trump was to Langley.

It was to reassure his masters there that his intentions were to follow their lead. POTUS acts upon policy dictated by the intelligence community among others.

Conservative middle class white America seems to think that Trump will restore us to the golden days of 1955. This will NOT happen. Watch and learn, pilgrim.....

and that's me, hollering from the choir loft...

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Re: Trump is to Reagan

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[Replying to post 2 by Redhawk]

I think Trump will be hailed a second Reagan, but I think a trained monkey, if it had been elected President, would be hailed a second Reagan. It's not about the person, it's about the economic conditions.

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Willum wrote: [Replying to post 2 by Redhawk]

I think Trump will be hailed a second Reagan, but I think a trained monkey, if it had been elected President, would be hailed a second Reagan. It's not about the person, it's about the economic conditions.
You have a point there. Mr. T is already being hailed a saviour by some. Most who love the memory of Reagan refuse to acknowledge that the Hollywood actor turned POTUS was a front man for the true deciders. Reagan's administration ushered in the neocon abuses of the twenty-first century.

The economic conditions are deliberately throttled by the financial cartel. None in that nest of snakes were elected by the people who work to fill their coffers with money.

There are several indicators of their intent and control. One of the best to watch is the price of gas per gallon in the US. When it approached four dollars the economy went into a tail spin and everybody started to holler. 'Experts' would come on TV and tell us we ought to get used to it, but we didn't. Therefore they dropped the price to three bucks or less. As long as the US has a handle on the supply of oil, the deciders can throttle the economy by charging whatever they want for gas.

Another is to watch the inflation rate. Prior to the twenty-first century it was always closely watched in the news. Today you rarely hear about it. Deflation is an unknown factor and any time its even discussed in financial circles the 'experts' become pale and shake with fear. God forbid the dollar we work for should actually become worth more.......

A good long range forcast index is the BDIY. This is an index of dry bulk carrier activity. A rise and fall of this index is a good index of long term economic growth or decline. Ships are needed for trans-ocean transport and if the global economy falls off the shipping index BDIY will also fall. If the economy improves, that number will rise. This number rises and falls slowly and reflects the true nature of global product trading. Stock market indexes only indicate the level of financial gambling and is very short term. This month the BDIY is up slightly.

The VIX volatility index measures trading activity for the S&P 500 stocks. If it goes over 30 the indication is fear and instability. Not a good time to buy or sell. If it falls below 20 the indication is complacency and confidence. This index has been running between 10 and 12 since Trump's election.

The financial cartel is happy. All is well on Wall Street and the military is contemplating an adventure with China. Meanwhile the liberals believe they're being treated to a political enema and the conservatives are living in fantasyland. And only God seems to know what Mr. T has up his sleeve.

and that's me, hollering from the choir loft...



btw, I voted for Gary Johnson in protest.

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Re: Trump is to Reagan

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[Replying to post 1 by Willum]

Reagan was worshipped by the Republicans and still is. But Reagan was a snake under his fine words and presidential comportment. He lied about Iran-Contra under oath. His administration was responsible for losing millions of American jobs overseas and his relationship to the military-industrial complex was at least as great as that of Lyndon Johnson.

As of this writing Mr. Trump has not completed 100 days in office. Every single one of them has been filled with discontent among the American people and those of our friends allies and enemies. Both Trump and Clinton intended to lead America into a disasterous war (we haven't really won a war since 1945). The only real question here is how long each might have taken before the shooting starts.

At home we face the possibility of escalating martial law. Trump has already threatened to send in Federal troops to Chicago and it is not inconceivable that other cities will soon follow. Mercenary armies such as Blackwater, which have already been deployed in a limited capacity inside America, could assist in this policy.

And Americans will let it happen.....and maybe even appluade it.

Why?

Americans are not concerned about freedom as much as we are of security. And so we trade the most valuable thing we have, liberty, for the chains of a government that feeds upon itself.

Conservatives voted for Trump, not understanding his motivations.
Liberals voted for Clinton, not understanding hers either.
POTUS is a middle management position. The oligarchs rule America and they are not ruling well.

Finally, it must be said here that God will most definitely NOT bless America. We have turned our collective back upon Him, denied Him, and told Him to hit the road.

and so He has.......

We're on our own, folks, with a possible despot in charge and fools in his administration who dictate policy. It doesn't look good for our future - not good at all.

and that's me, hollering from the choir loft...

PS I voted for Gary Johnson, Libertarian candidate.

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