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Post BBCode URL - Right click and save to clipboard to use later in post Post 1: Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:52 pm
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Rome vs Melchizedek

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Melchizedek was a high priest of the Most High God contemporary with Abraham. (Gen 14:18-20, Heb 5:10)

Mel, along with Abraham, existed prior to the covenanted law that Yhvh's people agreed upon with God as per Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy.

Deut 5:2-4 . .Yhvh our God made a covenant with us at Horeb. Yhvh did not make this covenant with our fathers, but with us, with all those of us alive here today.

This is very important seeing as how the covenant's law wasn't set up to be enforced ex post facto; i.e. it isn't retroactive.

Gal 3:17. . The law, which came four hundred and thirty years afterward, does not annul a covenant previously ratified by God, so as to cancel the promise.

Enacting the Jews' covenant after their father's time, instead of before him or with him, was done to protect Abraham's covenant from his posterity's curse-worthy failures to comply with their covenant. In other words; no matter how many times, nor in how many ways, Abraham's posterity breaks the laws of their own covenant, they cannot endanger the fulfillment of their father's covenant; which is a really good thing because otherwise neither Christ nor his believing followers would benefit from one of the promises God made in Abraham's covenant.

Gal 3:8 . . Scripture, which saw in advance that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, foretold the good news to Abraham, saying, “Through you shall all the nations be blessed.” (cf. Gen 12:3)

Continuing:

Rom 4:15 . .The law produces wrath; but where there is no law, neither is there violation.

In other words: where there is no law, there is no law to break. However; it's not saying that things like dishonesty weren't sins back in those days because they were.

Rom 5:13a . . Up to the time of the law, sin was in the world,

Rom 4:15 is only saying that seeing as how God hadn't as yet enacted a law forbidding dishonesty in Abraham's day, then whenever Abraham lied; God didn't write him up for it.

Rom 5:13b . . . Sin is not accounted when there is no law.

The koiné Greek word translated "accounted" is ellogeo (el-log-eh'-o) which essentially speaks of keeping records.

So; seeing as how Christ's priesthood is patterned after Melchizedek's rather than Aaron's (Ps 110:4, Heb 5:1-7:28), and seeing as how Mel officiated prior to the Jews' covenant; then just as Abraham wasn't written up for breaking the Jews' covenanted laws; then neither are Christ's constituents written up for breaking them; which includes the Ten Commandments (Ex 20:1-17, Ex 31:28, Deut 4:13, Deut 10:4).

2Cor 5:19 . .God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting their trespasses against them

Now, according to the rules and regulations of the Catholic catechism; when people pass away with just one un-absolved mortal sin on the books, they go directly to hell with no stopover in a purgatory.
(CCC 1035)

There's a fatal flaw in that rule. Know what it is? Well; according to Rom 4:15, Rom 5:13, and 2Cor 5:19, God isn't keeping books on Christ's believing followers. In point of fact, none of their sins of any kind are on the books-- either mortal or venial.

You know what that means? It means that as far as God's criminal justice system is concerned, Christ's believing followers are fully acquitted and 100% innocent, i.e. as far as God's criminal justice system is concerned; Christ's believing followers never committed even one single sin in their entire lives! So when the archives are reviewed as per Rev 20:11-15, there will be nothing recorded in them with which to accuse Christ's believing followers.

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Post BBCode URL - Right click and save to clipboard to use later in post Post 2: Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:15 am
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The Publican's Experience

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Luke 18:14 . . I tell you, this man went down to his house forgiven rather than the other

No; Jesus didn't say "forgiven" he said justified.

The koiné Greek word is dikaioo (dik-ah-yo'-o) which essentially means to regard as innocent.

In order for God to grant the tax man innocence, He couldn't merely forgive him; no, God had to exonerate him; and how does one do that when there is evidence enough to convict?

Well, according to the Bible, Christ was restored to life for our justification (Rom 4:25). In other words; though Christ's crucifixion was sufficient to obtain forgiveness for people's sins; his crucifixion alone wasn't sufficient to make it possible for people to obtain an acquittal, i.e. exoneration; which can be defined as an adjudication of innocence.

Acquittals are normally granted when there is insufficient evidence to convict. In other words: by means of Christ's resurrection, God was able to cook the books so that it appears the tax collector never did anything bad. On the surface; this looks very illegal, but from God's perspective it's all on the up and up.

This is a serious issue under the terms and conditions of the covenant that Yhvh's people agreed upon with God as per Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy. The covenant's sacrifices obtained forgiveness for the people, but the sacrifices did not, and could not, obtain them exoneration. No, a record of their disobedience remained on the books, hanging over their heads like a sword of Damocles. Out ahead, at the Great White Throne event depicted at Rev 20:11-15, those books will be opened for review.

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Post BBCode URL - Right click and save to clipboard to use later in post Post 3: Sat Feb 18, 2017 7:53 pm
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Re: Rome vs Melchizedek

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Q: Don't Catholics obtain justification when they go to confession?

A: The Roman church's reconciliatory process is somewhat limited in its scope. It's primarily designed for absolution; i.e. while it forgives a sinner's debt to God's law, it does nothing to delete the sinner's history.

In other words: sinners leave the confessional with their rap sheets and their indictments intact and unchanged. That's unfortunate because those records are subject to review at the Great White Throne event depicted at Rev 20:11-15 where they can, and will, be used to adjudge people as undesirable immigrants, so to speak; thus barring them from crossing the border into heaven

Justification, on the other hand, as per the koiné Greek word dikaioo, completely deletes the sinner's history; i.e. dikaioo wipes their records so clean and efficiently that there is nothing left that can in any way be used to prove that the sinner has ever been anything less than 100% innocent.

Now, the advantage of the kind of justification I'm talking about is that sinners need obtain it only once because from thence, God stops keeping records on them.

2Cor 5:19 . .God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting their trespasses against them

The koiné Greek word translated "counting" is logizomai (log-id'-zom-ahee) which means to take an inventory.

Rom 4:8 . . Blessed is the man whose sin the Lord does not record.

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