Where did it go?

[Youkilledkenny]

With the exception of the occasional "wedding cake issue" or the like, it seems that the 'Christian vs. Gay" argument has died down a lot in the USA since gay marriage has become legal.
Have Christians given up on the complaining about how bad gay people are, are Christians re-grouping, have Christians that complained about gay people gone on holiday or have Christians all of a sudden, become "OK" with gay people?
Or, perhaps, the media has found other causes to accost us with these days?
Or are there other reasons (sinister or benign)?

[Tired of the Nonsense]

Most of us are perfectly capable of determining right and wrong for ourselves. Others however envision themselves as sheep, incapable of knowing right from wrong without guidance.

Presuming you are among those with that capability, does that capability exist with no guidance whatsoever? If not, how much guidance can one get before one turns into a sheep?

The golden rule is all the guidance I have ever needed. It covers most situations 99% of the time.

[Redhawk]

With the exception of the occasional "wedding cake issue" or the like, it seems that the 'Christian vs. Gay" argument has died down a lot in the USA since gay marriage has become legal.
Have Christians given up on the complaining about how bad gay people are, are Christians re-grouping, have Christians that complained about gay people gone on holiday or have Christians all of a sudden, become "OK" with gay people?
Or, perhaps, the media has found other causes to accost us with these days?
Or are there other reasons (sinister or benign)?

It seems to me that you've got the foot in the other shoe. The legal issue that was forced upon Christians is not the freedom to condemn the gay life style, its the defense of their own. Gays and their lawyers saw to it that any court battle would be lengthy and predisposed against any argument for any life style other than their own. While gays organize legal defense, Christians stand alone - getting little or no assistance from their own people.

Christians wander in and out of these issues like a bunch of sheep without a shephard. The shepherds are too busy with one hand on a Bible and the other in someone else's pocket to bother leading. Christian sheep bleat against abortion, but do nothing of substance against it. They whine about the gay life style being forbidden in the Bible, but they never support those attacked by it with any substance other than the gas that comes out of their mouths. Christians whine about loving their neighbor as themselves, but justify and even praise a government that promotes war crimes against innocent populations. Priests and pastors are literally too afraid to do anything or speak anything in church about it. They even fear addressing sin among Christians on Sunday - except as indirect references to obscure stories.

Repentance is not taught as a principle of the Christian faith either for themselves or others.

The post quoted and replied to here has a hypocritcal tone. Gays have won the battle, so why complain further? Its like Donald Trump complaining about votes that won him the presidency. The man won, so why complain?

The losers whine about losing, but have no one to blame but themselves. The winners complain about winning. Why? America has become a nation of whiners. Win or lose they are likely to complain anyway.

It is as if we are all losers.

Perhaps in God's eyes we are.

and that's me, hollering from the choir loft...

[zjsd26]

You are stereotyping a lot of Christians. They are plenty of Theists that don't hate or discriminate against anyone's sexual orientation. Now I feel like we need to have standards with our opinions. Some may not agree with the lifestyle, but hating the person is never right. It's never good to hatred for anyone. It all varies down to how they were raised, and the culture they grew up in. Many people are programmed to hate different groups of people. Either by their parents, schools, or the media.

It's not the point of hating, it's just respectfully disagree with their lifestyle, all of us are going to be judged, attacked and mocked with the way we are. It's a matter of looking past those opinions, to be vigilant and responsible.

[imhereforyou]

With the exception of the occasional "wedding cake issue" or the like, it seems that the 'Christian vs. Gay" argument has died down a lot in the USA since gay marriage has become legal.
Have Christians given up on the complaining about how bad gay people are, are Christians re-grouping, have Christians that complained about gay people gone on holiday or have Christians all of a sudden, become "OK" with gay people?
Or, perhaps, the media has found other causes to accost us with these days?
Or are there other reasons (sinister or benign)?

Once society starts to normalize something, Christians run to the next thing to complain about. Seems this is yet another thing that, over time, Christianity will accept (at least in majority).
But there will always be complainers. It's rather or not we give them a voice and how loud we allow them to shout.

[Monta]

[Replying to post 13 by zjsd26]


"It's not the point of hating, it's just respectfully disagree with their lifestyle, all of us are going to be judged, attacked and mocked with the way we are. It's a matter of looking past those opinions, to be vigilant and responsible."

Yes but unless you approve and dance to their tune, you in fact hate them and they will you so.
What happened to that lady who refused to make a gay - penis on a wedding cake?

Some people have rights she did not. I believe she had to go to Court, have not heard what happened in the end.

[Bust Nak]

Yes but unless you approve and dance to their tune, you in fact hate them and they will you so.
What happened to that lady who refused to make a gay - penis on a wedding cake?

Some people have rights she did not. I believe she had to go to Court, have not heard what happened in the end.

I am pretty sure the baker is a man. He lost in the lower courts, he is now taking it to the US Supreme Court, the appeal will start in December.

As for rights, the state Supreme Court has already upheld the original ruling on appeal and ruled that the act of making the cake was part of the expected conduct a bakery business, and not an expression of free speech nor free exercise of religion.

[Monta]

[Replying to post 16 by Bust Nak]

Well.. we have just joined the crowd and expect the same problems here.

In my book religion is not something sitting in your head. You live it in all actions and thoughts.You have to be faithful to the God you worship who is in the very centre of your being.

[Bust Nak]

[Replying to post 17 by Monta]

Just joined the crowd, as in the recent YES vote in Australia? If one lived their religion in all actions and impacted negatively on others, should they get a pass just because it is religiously based? Where are you going to draw the line?

[Monta]

[Replying to post 17 by Monta]

Just joined the crowd, as in the recent YES vote in Australia? If one lived their religion in all actions and impacted negatively on others, should they get a pass just because it is religiously based? Where are you going to draw the line?

When it affects others negatively it is wrong and it has to be rejected. Religious people are not perfect. The problem arises when one party's opinion/demand is given preference to the other.

The baker of a cake would be negatively affected if he was made to do something that is contrary to his religious/moral view which he considers proper.

[Bust Nak]

When it affects others negatively it is wrong and it has to be rejected. Religious people are not perfect.

Right, and the lower courts agreed. Let see if the US Supreme Court feels the same.

The problem arises when one party's opinion/demand is given preference to the other.

If a compromise can't be found by parties involved themselves, then take it to the courts, that's what judges are for. The solution is to give preference to one over the other. The problem it seems, is that the preference is given to the side you disagree with.

The baker of a cake would be negatively affected if he was made to do something that is contrary to his religious/moral view which he considers proper.

And the customers are negatively affected because the baker in question refused to serve them based on their sexuality, should the baker get a pass because his is based on religion? I say if your job is too much of a negative impact and not compentated for by your pay, quit your job.