Worship Jesus: proskyne�

[Faber]

Since every instance of proskyne� means worship in the New Testament why do some deny the Lord Jesus is worshiped when He is the proper recipient of proskyne� on many occasions?

[tigger2]

Since every instance of proskyne� means worship in the New Testament why do some deny the Lord Jesus is worshiped when He is the proper recipient of proskyne� on many occasions?

I know you know the answer to this. You've been told often enough.


Trinitarian W. E. Vine writes in his An Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words, p. 1247:

“PROSKUNEO ... to make obeisance, do reverence to (from pros, towards, and kuneo, to kiss), is the most frequent word rendered ‘to worship’. It is used for an act of homage or reverence (a) to God ...; (b) to Christ ...; (c) to a man, Matt. 18:26.�

“Obeisance,� of course, shows “respect, submission, or reverence� - Webster’s New Collegiate Dictionary, 1961.

Noted Bible scholar J. H. Thayer defines proskuneo:

“prop. to kiss the hand to (towards) one, in token of reverence ... hence in the N. T. by kneeling or prostration to do homage (to one) or make obeisance, whether in order to express respect or to make supplication. It is used a. of homage shown to men of superior rank [position] ... Rev. 3:9 .... b. of homage rendered to God and the ascended Christ, to heavenly beings [angels]� - p. 548, Thayer’s Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament, Baker Book House Publ., 1977.

Hasting’s A Dictionary of the Bible tells us:

“Worship, both as [noun] and verb, was formerly used of reverence or honour done to men as well as to God …� - p. 941, vol. 4.

The Hebrew word most often translated “worship� is shachah, and it is usually rendered as proskuneo in the Greek Septuagint version of the Old Testament.

Unger and White say of this word: “Shachah ... ‘to worship, prostrate oneself, bow down.’� And,

“The act of bowing down in homage done before a superior [in rank] or a ruler. Thus David ‘bowed’ himself [shachah] before Saul (1 Sam. 24:8). Sometimes it is a social or economic superior to whom one bows, as when Ruth ‘bowed’ [shachah] to the ground before Boaz (Ruth 2:10).� - Nelson’s Expository Dictionary of the Old Testament, 1980, Thomas Nelson Publ., p. 482.

Perhaps the most famous Biblical Hebrew scholar of all, Gesenius, tells us in Gesenius’ Hebrew-Chaldee Lexicon to the Old Testament, p. 813, (#7812), ‘Shachah’:

“(1) to prostrate oneself before anyone out of honor .... Those who used this mode of salutation fell on their knees and touched the ground with the forehead ..., and this honor was not only shown to superiors, such as kings and princes, 2 Sam. 9:8; but also to equals; Gen. 23:7.�

[JehovahsWitness]

[Replying to post 1 by Faber]

Jehovah's Witnesses and others have addressed this point many times over in detail. Here are a few LINKS in case you missed them.

PROSKYNEO: DEFINTION (word studies)

(tigger)
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 51#p867151

"Hommage" or "Worship" (JW)
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 05#p842405

NWT - Heb 1:6 (JW)
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 30#p866930

Phil 2:10: "Every knee shall bow" (tigger)
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 38#p864138

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JW

[Faber]

In Matthew 18:26 the Lord Jesus is that man. He properly receives as the God-man.

Te texts from the Septuagint don't apply because I wrote in the New Testament - the word took on exclusive worship due unto God alone by this time.

In terms of Revelation 3:9 see footnote #3 on page 2.
http://faithsaves.net/wp-content/upload ... nofGod.pdf