Worship Jesus: proseuchomai (Acts 1:24)

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Worship Jesus: proseuchomai (Acts 1:24)

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Acts 1:24-25
(24) And they prayed, and said, Thou, Lord, which knowest the hearts of all men, shew whether of these two thou hast chosen,
(25) That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place. (KJV)


1. Since the Lord Jesus was previously referred to as "Lord" (v. 6, 21) and He "chose" the apostles (v. 2) why wouldn't this constitute a prayer to Him?

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Re: Worship Jesus: proseuchomai (Acts 1:24)

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Faber wrote: Acts 1:24-25
(24) And they prayed, and said, Thou, Lord, which knowest the hearts of all men, shew whether of these two thou hast chosen,
(25) That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place. (KJV)


1. Since the Lord Jesus was previously referred to as "Lord" (v. 6, 21) and He "chose" the apostles (v. 2) why wouldn't this constitute a prayer to Him?
Why would the apostles pray to Jesus instead of the Father?
My theological positions:

-God created us in His image, not the other way around.
-The Bible is redeemed by it's good parts.
-Pure monotheism, simple repentance.
-YHVH is LORD
-The real Jesus is not God, the real YHVH is not a monster.
-Eternal life is a gift from the Living God.
-Keep the Commandments, keep your salvation.
-I have accepted YHVH as my Heavenly Father, LORD and Savior.

I am inspired by Jesus to worship none but YHVH, and to serve only Him.

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Because He is God.

Seyoon Kim (Concerning the Lord Jesus): He is addressed in prayer, a clear indication of His deity (Acts 1:24-25) (The Origin of Paul's Gospel, page 105).

NIDNTT: In prayer we are never to forget whom we are addressing: the living God, the almighty One with whom nothing is impossible, and from whom therefore all things may be expected (2:857, Prayer, H. Schonweiss).

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Faber wrote: Because He is God..
"God" would not have been wrong about predicting the time of return. (Matthew 16.27-28 and other places)

And besides, the Father is God, isn't He?

Where does the Father fit in with all of this? He is part of the Trinity too, is he not? Yet He seems to be neglected with all this "Jesus-worship". No room in the hearts of Jesus- devotees for devotion to the Father?
My theological positions:

-God created us in His image, not the other way around.
-The Bible is redeemed by it's good parts.
-Pure monotheism, simple repentance.
-YHVH is LORD
-The real Jesus is not God, the real YHVH is not a monster.
-Eternal life is a gift from the Living God.
-Keep the Commandments, keep your salvation.
-I have accepted YHVH as my Heavenly Father, LORD and Savior.

I am inspired by Jesus to worship none but YHVH, and to serve only Him.

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Elijah John wrote:
Faber wrote: Because He is God..
the Father is God, isn't He?
Yes, and the Son is as well.

1. William Mounce: The fact that people pray to both God (Mt. 6:9) and Jesus (Acts 1:24) is part of the proof of Jesus' deity (Mounce's Complete Expository Dictionary of Old & New Testament Words, Pray, page 531).

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