Are Catholicism and other Christian religions ending?

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Are Catholicism and other Christian religions ending?

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“A report released Tuesday by the Pew Forum finds that the total number of Catholics in the United States dropped by 3 million since 2007, now comprising about 20 percent - or one-fifth - of the total population.

"And perhaps more troubling for the church, for every one Catholic convert, more than six Catholics leave the church. Taken a step further, Catholicism loses more members than it gains at a higher rate than any other denomination, with nearly 13 percent of all Americans describing themselves as “former Catholics.�

"The report, America’s Changing Religious Landscape, found that in 2014, the overall share of Christians in the United States dropped to an all-time low of just under 71 percent, down about 7 percentage points from 2007.�

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eldios wrote:

I didn't learn this knowledge from any text. I learned it directly from the creator.

We will all experience life in different bodies in the next generation of the program.


You are all over the place. Not making any sense. :-s
You made two new positive claims.

Q: Care to provide evidence for this two claims?
"It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets."
"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived."
"God is a insignificant nobody. He is so unimportant that no one would even know he exists if evolution had not made possible for animals capable of abstract thought to exist and invent him"
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alexxcJRO wrote:
eldios wrote:

I didn't learn this knowledge from any text. I learned it directly from the creator.

We will all experience life in different bodies in the next generation of the program.


You are all over the place. Not making any sense. :-s
You made two new positive claims.

Q: Care to provide evidence for this two claims?
If you're looking for the Truth, it's totally invisible to man.

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eldios wrote:
If you're looking for the Truth, it's totally invisible to man.
That's rather convenient.

It also means you have no clue what the Truth is. Unless you are not man?

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eldios wrote:
If you're looking for the Truth, it's totally invisible to man.
Now your just embarrassing yourself for that is a self-defeating statement. :-s :shock: :)

A man(you) is saying: “the Truth, it's totally invisible to man.�

1. If the statement is true then it’s also false for a man(you) is saying it.
2. If it’s false then Truth is not totally invisible to man.

It’s like this:
A woman with green lips is saying: “Green lips always lie�.
"It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets."
"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived."
"God is a insignificant nobody. He is so unimportant that no one would even know he exists if evolution had not made possible for animals capable of abstract thought to exist and invent him"
"Two hands working can do more than a thousand clasped in prayer."

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alexxcJRO wrote:
eldios wrote:
If you're looking for the Truth, it's totally invisible to man.
Now your just embarrassing yourself for that is a self-defeating statement. :-s :shock: :)

A man(you) is saying: “the Truth, it's totally invisible to man.�

1. If the statement is true then it’s also false for a man(you) is saying it.
2. If it’s false then Truth is not totally invisible to man.

It’s like this:
A woman with green lips is saying: “Green lips always lie�.
You would make a very good religious person who twists everything he reads in a Bible.

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eldios wrote:
You would make a very good religious person who twists everything he reads in a Bible.

I have just used logic to show you have created a paradox. Therefore you were illogical. 8-)
"It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets."
"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived."
"God is a insignificant nobody. He is so unimportant that no one would even know he exists if evolution had not made possible for animals capable of abstract thought to exist and invent him"
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alexxcJRO wrote:
eldios wrote:
You would make a very good religious person who twists everything he reads in a Bible.

I have just used logic to show you have created a paradox. Therefore you were illogical. 8-)
All logic will be burned up on the day of the Lord. Then all men created in the image of God will begin enjoying eternal life without any questions forming in their minds.

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eldios wrote:
All logic will be burned up on the day of the Lord. Then all men created in the image of God will begin enjoying eternal life without any questions forming in their minds.
Preaching again. :-s :?
Please carefully read the guidelines and rules of this sub-forum. 8-)

“We are debating Christianity, pro and con, for and against, not debating with the assumption that Christianity is true. Please realize that people on the forum are from all worldview backgrounds and do not necessarily share the same assumptions.

2. Avoid using the Bible as the sole source to prove that Christianity is true. However, using the Bible as the only source to argue what is authentic Christianity is legitimate.

3. For factual claims like the existence of individuals, places, and events, the Bible can be considered as providing evidence, but not necessarily conclusive evidence.

4. Unsupported Bible quotations are to be considered as no more authoritative than unsupported quotations from any other book.

5. Please avoid "preaching" and using the forum as simply a way to blast people with the gospel message. This is a debating forum, not a convenient place to overtly proselytize.

6. Realize that most participants here are strong debaters and have a vast knowledge of Christianity and the Bible (including non-theists). If you make any claims, be ready to support your claims with evidence if asked. Non-Biblical evidence would go far among non-theists.

7. For debates purely on theology with the assumption that the Bible is an authoritative source, please consider posting in the Theology, Doctrine, and Dogma subforum. “
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18. Abide by the guidelines on preaching and the guidelines on ranting. Repeated violations of the guidelines can result in a warning. “
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"It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets."
"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived."
"God is a insignificant nobody. He is so unimportant that no one would even know he exists if evolution had not made possible for animals capable of abstract thought to exist and invent him"
"Two hands working can do more than a thousand clasped in prayer."

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alexxcJRO wrote:
eldios wrote:
All logic will be burned up on the day of the Lord. Then all men created in the image of God will begin enjoying eternal life without any questions forming in their minds.
Preaching again. :-s :?
Please carefully read the guidelines and rules of this sub-forum. 8-)

“We are debating Christianity, pro and con, for and against, not debating with the assumption that Christianity is true. Please realize that people on the forum are from all worldview backgrounds and do not necessarily share the same assumptions.

2. Avoid using the Bible as the sole source to prove that Christianity is true. However, using the Bible as the only source to argue what is authentic Christianity is legitimate.

3. For factual claims like the existence of individuals, places, and events, the Bible can be considered as providing evidence, but not necessarily conclusive evidence.

4. Unsupported Bible quotations are to be considered as no more authoritative than unsupported quotations from any other book.

5. Please avoid "preaching" and using the forum as simply a way to blast people with the gospel message. This is a debating forum, not a convenient place to overtly proselytize.

6. Realize that most participants here are strong debaters and have a vast knowledge of Christianity and the Bible (including non-theists). If you make any claims, be ready to support your claims with evidence if asked. Non-Biblical evidence would go far among non-theists.

7. For debates purely on theology with the assumption that the Bible is an authoritative source, please consider posting in the Theology, Doctrine, and Dogma subforum. “
viewtopic.php?t=9741


“5. Support your assertions/arguments with evidence. Do not persist in making a claim without supporting it. All unsupported claims can be challenged for supporting evidence. Opinions require no support, but they should not be considered as valid to any argument, nor will they be considered as legitimate support for any claim.
18. Abide by the guidelines on preaching and the guidelines on ranting. Repeated violations of the guidelines can result in a warning. “
viewtopic.php?t=6
Hypocrites who preach their thoughts in this forum do not like it when others preach their thoughts.

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eldios wrote:
alexxcJRO wrote:
eldios wrote:
All logic will be burned up on the day of the Lord. Then all men created in the image of God will begin enjoying eternal life without any questions forming in their minds.
Preaching again. :-s :?
Please carefully read the guidelines and rules of this sub-forum. 8-)

“We are debating Christianity, pro and con, for and against, not debating with the assumption that Christianity is true. Please realize that people on the forum are from all worldview backgrounds and do not necessarily share the same assumptions.

2. Avoid using the Bible as the sole source to prove that Christianity is true. However, using the Bible as the only source to argue what is authentic Christianity is legitimate.

3. For factual claims like the existence of individuals, places, and events, the Bible can be considered as providing evidence, but not necessarily conclusive evidence.

4. Unsupported Bible quotations are to be considered as no more authoritative than unsupported quotations from any other book.

5. Please avoid "preaching" and using the forum as simply a way to blast people with the gospel message. This is a debating forum, not a convenient place to overtly proselytize.

6. Realize that most participants here are strong debaters and have a vast knowledge of Christianity and the Bible (including non-theists). If you make any claims, be ready to support your claims with evidence if asked. Non-Biblical evidence would go far among non-theists.

7. For debates purely on theology with the assumption that the Bible is an authoritative source, please consider posting in the Theology, Doctrine, and Dogma subforum. “
viewtopic.php?t=9741


“5. Support your assertions/arguments with evidence. Do not persist in making a claim without supporting it. All unsupported claims can be challenged for supporting evidence. Opinions require no support, but they should not be considered as valid to any argument, nor will they be considered as legitimate support for any claim.
18. Abide by the guidelines on preaching and the guidelines on ranting. Repeated violations of the guidelines can result in a warning. “
viewtopic.php?t=6
Hypocrites who preach their thoughts in this forum do not like it when others preach their thoughts.
Nonsense. :? :-s
I didn’t do such things. I only asked you to provide evidence for your claims and used logic to show you your posts were illogical.

Let’s look what preach means:

preach
[preech]
Spell Syllables
verb (used with object)
1.
to proclaim or make known by sermon (the gospel, good tidings,etc.).
2.
to deliver (a sermon).
3.
to advocate or inculcate (religious or moral truth, right conduct, etc.)in speech or writing.
verb (used without object)
4.
to deliver a sermon.
5.
to give earnest advice, as on religious or moral subjects or the like.
6.
to do this in an obtrusive or tedious way.
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/preach


Definition of PREACH

1. intransitive verb
2. 1: to deliver a sermon
3. 2: to urge acceptance or abandonment of an idea or course of action; specifically : to exhort in an officious or tiresome manner
4. transitive verb
5. 1: to set forth in a sermon preach the gospel
6. 2: to advocate earnestly preached revolution
7. 3: to deliver (something, such as a sermon) publicly
8. 4: to bring, put, or affect by preachingpreached the … church out of debt — Amer. Guide Series: Va.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/preach

So it seems the definitions agrees with me. I did not preach for I didn’t proclaim any religious truths, advocate for some moral, right conduct and so one in a tedious way. But you did. You kept on repeating the Lord will destroy the universe and the things in it. 8-)
"It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets."
"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived."
"God is a insignificant nobody. He is so unimportant that no one would even know he exists if evolution had not made possible for animals capable of abstract thought to exist and invent him"
"Two hands working can do more than a thousand clasped in prayer."

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