Is religious opinion more important than scientific fact?

[Justin108]

Please explain how teaching evolution is "brainwashing", but teaching religion isn't? If schools "brainwash" children by teaching evolution, does that mean that parents "brainwash" children by teaching Christianity?

In the USA teaching the evolution is brainwashing because it is contrary to the declared beliefs and religions of the vast majority of the American population.

Is religious opinion more important than scientific fact? Should schools also be forbidden from teaching physics, astronomy and geography because it's contrary to the beliefs of flat-Earthers? Should parents have the right to withhold education from their children due to religious beliefs?

[McCulloch]

Should schools also be forbidden from teaching physics, astronomy and geography because it's contrary to the beliefs of flat-Earthers?

No, because JP Cusick says that the standard should be the declared beliefs and religions of the vast majority of the American population, not what is true or the consensus of experts in each particular field. So evolution should be ok to teach as soon as the opinion polls show that the majority of Americans believe it.

Is religious opinion more important than scientific fact?

Not according to the First Ammendment.

Should parents have the right to withhold education from their children due to religious beliefs?

Should parents have the right to withhold healthcare from their children due to religious beliefs? Should parents have the right to sacrifice their children to their gods?

[Kenisaw]

Is religious opinion more important than scientific fact?

Depends on each individual obviously. For me, no. I'd rather have something supported by facts and data as a foundation for my intellect instead of baseless conjecture.

Should schools also be forbidden from teaching physics, astronomy and geography because it's contrary to the beliefs of flat-Earthers?

According to ISIS no one needs an education, so maybe we should just do away with schools entirely.

Should parents have the right to withhold education from their children due to religious beliefs?

All 50 states in the US have in their state constitution the right to an education (through high school). It's also a law in all the states that all kids have to attend school (be it public, private, home school ,etc). So no, parents do not have the right to withhold education from their kids, for any reason.

[liamconnor]

Please explain how teaching evolution is "brainwashing", but teaching religion isn't? If schools "brainwash" children by teaching evolution, does that mean that parents "brainwash" children by teaching Christianity?

In the USA teaching the evolution is brainwashing because it is contrary to the declared beliefs and religions of the vast majority of the American population.

Is religious opinion more important than scientific fact?

I don't see the relevancy of the two adjectives: fact always supersedes opinion whether scientific or religious. As for the "fact" of evolution, it is a scientific fact. It is a theory which accounts for some data. By no means all.

Should schools also be forbidden from teaching physics, astronomy and geography because it's contrary to the beliefs of flat-Earthers?

Based on C's logic, no. Flat-E is not a majority belief.

Should parents have the right to withhold education from their children due to religious beliefs?

It depends on the content of the education: if the education holds that evolution is a proved theory which by nature invalidates their religious convictions, then yes, since this is propaganda and not science.

[Kenisaw]

Please explain how teaching evolution is "brainwashing", but teaching religion isn't? If schools "brainwash" children by teaching evolution, does that mean that parents "brainwash" children by teaching Christianity?

In the USA teaching the evolution is brainwashing because it is contrary to the declared beliefs and religions of the vast majority of the American population.

Is religious opinion more important than scientific fact?

I don't see the relevancy of the two adjectives: fact always supersedes opinion whether scientific or religious. As for the "fact" of evolution, it is a scientific fact. It is a theory which accounts for some data. By no means all.

Please list the "data" that is not accounted for by the scientific theory of evolution.

Should schools also be forbidden from teaching physics, astronomy and geography because it's contrary to the beliefs of flat-Earthers?

Based on C's logic, no. Flat-E is not a majority belief.

The number of people that believe something has nothing to do with it being supported by fact or not. Flat E is not taught because there is no evidence for it, not because it won or lost a popularity contest...

Should parents have the right to withhold education from their children due to religious beliefs?

It depends on the content of the education: if the education holds that evolution is a proved theory which by nature invalidates their religious convictions, then yes, since this is propaganda and not science.

Please refer to my previous post where I explained that it is illegal to withhold education from a child.

[Rufus21]

In the USA teaching the evolution is brainwashing because it is contrary to the declared beliefs and religions of the vast majority of the American population.

I thought that most religions in America accepted evolution, or at least most of the religious followers did. It wasn't until I came to this forum that I found Christians who don't believe in evolution. And the few that don't seem to conflate it with abiogenesis, so maybe they actually would believe it if they understood the difference.

I'll be the first to admit that I'm out of touch with the Christian community, but I've lived and worked with a lot of Christians and none of them denied evolution.

[McCulloch]

if the education holds that evolution is a proved theory which by nature invalidates their religious convictions, then yes, since this is propaganda and not science.

If the education holds that the germ theory of disease is a proved theory which by nature invalidates their religious convictions, then this is propaganda and not science.
Really?

I thought that most religions in America accepted evolution, or at least most of the religious followers did.

Cusick is a Christian. Cusick denies secular evolution. The majority of Americans are at least nominally Christian. Therefore, evolution is denied by the religious convictions of the majority of Americans. Do you now see how Christian logic works? It is much better than the perversion known as secular logic.

[Realworldjack]

Please explain how teaching evolution is "brainwashing", but teaching religion isn't? If schools "brainwash" children by teaching evolution, does that mean that parents "brainwash" children by teaching Christianity?

In the USA teaching the evolution is brainwashing because it is contrary to the declared beliefs and religions of the vast majority of the American population.

Is religious opinion more important than scientific fact? Should schools also be forbidden from teaching physics, astronomy and geography because it's contrary to the beliefs of flat-Earthers? Should parents have the right to withhold education from their children due to religious beliefs?

Is religious opinion more important than scientific fact?

Absolutely not! The teaching of religion should be left to the home, Church, Synagogue, etc. As a Christian I certainly would not want someone whom I did not know, and were uncertain about their understanding, teaching my children about Christianity.

I have no problem with religion classes, in order for the kids to learn about the different religions, as long as they are simply being taught, facts about religion.

In the same way, when it comes to science, they should only be taught about the facts concerning science. With this being the case, I have no problem at all with, evolution being taught in the schools, as long as they were taught the facts concerning evolution.

With this being the case, they should be taught that evolution has been proposed as a possible explanation, along with all the reasons, and evidence that is used to support evolution, because in this way, they would indeed be taught the facts concerning evolution!