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Benoni wrote:You totally ignore the three verse I post where man has a spirit.
Actually, the word "Spirit" appears once, and only once, in your posting #182
So what does made in God's image and likeness suppose to mean. That is where i get the word spirit because God is a spirit and we are his sons.
Benoni wrote:So if Adam was not pure Spirit . . .
See it right there on the first line?
??????

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What "three verses" are you referring to?

Ecclesiastes 12: 7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

1 Corinthians 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

“There is a spirit in man: and the inspiration of the Almighty giveth them understanding� (Job 32:8).

Man is a spirit soul and flesh. When man dies his spirit returns to God who gave it.
Please define what a spirit is.

God is a spirit.

Is man a spirit?

What is a "spirit soul?"

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So if Adam was not pure Spirit before the seventh day when God formed him from the dust of the earth and made him a living soul what was he????.
God did not form Adam on the seventh day, but "rested from all His work, including the creation of Adam on the sixth day. "

Adam was formed on the sixth day, not a second time but the only time.

It was then that God made man male and female, flesh and blood souls that could thus procreate as one flesh.

They were never made before that, and were never made "pure spirit".

Genesis 2 did not take place after Genesis 1, but is rather a further explanation of the creation of man in the lead up to what is related in Genesis 3.

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Do I need to re-post the book of Genesis again because you do not know what context means?

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Benoni wrote: [Replying to post 188 by Checkpoint]

Do I need to re-post the book of Genesis again because you do not know what context means?
No.

Do you know what context means?

It does not mean chronology but may include it, providing it is actual and relevant.

Check any dictionary.

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Benoni wrote:
myth-one.com wrote:
Benoni wrote:You totally ignore the three verse I post where man has a spirit.
Actually, the word "Spirit" appears once, and only once, in your posting #182
So what does made in God's image and likeness suppose to mean. That is where i get the word spirit because God is a spirit and we are his sons.
Benoni wrote:So if Adam was not pure Spirit . . .
See it right there on the first line?
??????
Word seven?

What "three verses" are you referring to?
Ecclesiastes 12: 7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
What is the definition of "spirit" used in Ecclesiastes 12: 7?

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myth-one.com wrote:
Benoni wrote:
myth-one.com wrote:
Benoni wrote:You totally ignore the three verse I post where man has a spirit.
Actually, the word "Spirit" appears once, and only once, in your posting #182
So what does made in God's image and likeness suppose to mean. That is where i get the word spirit because God is a spirit and we are his sons.
Benoni wrote:So if Adam was not pure Spirit . . .
See it right there on the first line?
??????
Word seven?

What "three verses" are you referring to?
Ecclesiastes 12: 7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
What is the definition of "spirit" used in Ecclesiastes 12: 7?
You do not care you are a JW. A Spirit is that part of God in each one of us. Adam was a pure spirit before the fall. in other words Adam's body was a spiritual body that is much like our physical body but no sin and death. A spiritual body is what we truly are where this body of flesh is temporary.

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You do not care you are a JW.
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Myth-one.com wrote:
Ecclesiastes 12: 7 wrote:Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
What is the definition of "spirit" used in Ecclesiastes 12: 7?
Benoni wrote:A Spirit is that part of God in each one of us. Adam was a pure spirit before the fall. in other words Adam's body was a spiritual body that is much like our physical body but no sin and death. A spiritual body is what we truly are where this body of flesh is temporary.
God is a Spirit. The original "pure Spirit."

Before the fall, you claim Adam was a pure spirit.

If God is a pure spirit and Adam is a pure spirit then Adam and God are equals.

And if God is without "sin and death," then Adam, being equal to God, is also without sin and death.

If Adam is without sin, there could be no "fall."

And if Adam is without death, Adam could not die.

Thus, if "pure spirits" are immune to sin and death, then it is impossible for them to change.

They remain "pure spirits" forever.

And they would all live happily ever after!

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myth-one.com wrote:
Myth-one.com wrote:
Ecclesiastes 12: 7 wrote:Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
What is the definition of "spirit" used in Ecclesiastes 12: 7?
Benoni wrote:A Spirit is that part of God in each one of us. Adam was a pure spirit before the fall. in other words Adam's body was a spiritual body that is much like our physical body but no sin and death. A spiritual body is what we truly are where this body of flesh is temporary.
God is a Spirit. The original "pure Spirit."

Before the fall, you claim Adam was a pure spirit.

If God is a pure spirit and Adam is a pure spirit then Adam and God are equals.

And if God is without "sin and death," then Adam, being equal to God, is also without sin and death.

If Adam is without sin, there could be no "fall."

And if Adam is without death, Adam could not die.

Thus, if "pure spirits" are immune to sin and death, then it is impossible for them to change.

They remain "pure spirits" forever.

And they would all live happily ever after!
No one ever said we are equal to God. We are his children... Sons.

Its not a matter what you have been taught it is a matter of what God word tells us.

Look a little deeper at Ps. 82 and notice how the word Elohim was used with both a capital G and lower case; same word same meaning both Strong’s 430 and this has happen all thought out the KJV and who know what other translation.
Ps 82:6-8 6 "I said, 'You are "gods"; (Elohim) you are all sons of the Most High.' 7 But you will die like mere men; you will fall like every other ruler." 8 Rise up, O God (Elohim) , judge the earth, for all the nations are your inheritance.

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Benoni wrote:
myth-one.com wrote:
Myth-one.com wrote:
Ecclesiastes 12: 7 wrote:Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
What is the definition of "spirit" used in Ecclesiastes 12: 7?
Benoni wrote:A Spirit is that part of God in each one of us. Adam was a pure spirit before the fall. in other words Adam's body was a spiritual body that is much like our physical body but no sin and death. A spiritual body is what we truly are where this body of flesh is temporary.
God is a Spirit. The original "pure Spirit."

Before the fall, you claim Adam was a pure spirit.

If God is a pure spirit and Adam is a pure spirit then Adam and God are equals.

And if God is without "sin and death," then Adam, being equal to God, is also without sin and death.

If Adam is without sin, there could be no "fall."

And if Adam is without death, Adam could not die.

Thus, if "pure spirits" are immune to sin and death, then it is impossible for them to change.

They remain "pure spirits" forever.

And they would all live happily ever after!
No one ever said we are equal to God. We are his children... Sons.

Its not a matter what you have been taught it is a matter of what God word tells us.
You said Adam was a pure spirit.

God is a Spirit.

Do God and Adam have the same characteristics?

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