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PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 12:05 pm  What does it mean to be Jewish if there is no YHVH? Reply with quote

What does it mean to be Jewish if there is no YHVH?
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If you take all the supernatural out of religion, then you might as well just call it philosophy or culture. Supernatural is what makes religion religion.


It is only natural, something and or nothing, both created by One-True-God. There is none as supernatural, there can never be. Right, please?
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If I can guess what you are saying, then you're affirming that everything is natural. God - if there is one - is above all that is natural and so is supernatural. It is natural for birds to fly. If man takes off into the air, unaided, as did Jesus, he is doing something that is not natural - above natural -and so supernatural. If a dead body is made to rise up, then this is a supernatural act.

Religion certainly accepts lots of supernatural things. This is what makes religion problematic for many.

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paarsurrey1 wrote:

jgh7 wrote:

If you take all the supernatural out of religion, then you might as well just call it philosophy or culture. Supernatural is what makes religion religion.


It is only natural, something and or nothing, both created by One-True-God. There is none as supernatural, there can never be. Right, please?
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If I can guess what you are saying, then you're affirming that everything is natural. God - if there is one - is above all that is natural and so is supernatural. It is natural for birds to fly. If man takes off into the air, unaided, as did Jesus, he is doing something that is not natural - above natural -and so supernatural. If a dead body is made to rise up, then this is a supernatural act.

Religion certainly accepts lots of supernatural things. This is what makes religion problematic for many.

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If man takes off into the air, unaided, as did Jesus


Jesus never did it literally and physically.
Does one believe in it, please? If not, then why mention it?
It is simple exaggeration of the scribes/narrators/Church/clergy. It never happened in the real and physical world. Isn't it, please?

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Jesus never did it literally and physically.
Does one believe in it, please? If not, then why mention it?
It is simple exaggeration of the scribes/narrators/Church/clergy.



Paassurrey, I don't believe Christ literally ascended or literally rose from the dead or was the result of divine implantation in Mary's womb, but many do, so it is necessary to mention it. Do you believe that Muhammad sat on a winged horse?

When we start taking EVERYTHING as a dream or a metaphor we are left with our own thoughts - all divine stuff gone. That's how we make progress on Earth, not by praying for things.

Jews can act piously by believing in YHVH even if there is no YHVH. Gods coms from man's manufacturing.

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