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Healing wounds of the East and the West of the world

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Won’t recognizing Muhammad as a Spirit of Truth result healing of Earth?

One may like to read:
“Muhammad as Spirit of Truth: A Christian Testimony Against Islamophobia� by Ian Mevorach
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/ian-mevo ... 89642.html

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Humans will never solve the serious problems of humanity by trying to sell everyone on a single superstitious mythology. In fact, we have seen historically that religious superstitions have been one of the greatest causes of wars, hostilities, and even social oppression within a nation or state.

Humanity will not survive if we don't come to our sense and wake-up to the difference between reality and the obviously false mythologies of our ancient ancestors.

We have the knowledge that these religions myths are false. Those who remain in denial are simply refusing to acknowledge truth. But truth is what we must ultimately face if we are going to survive as a species.

My personal guess is that humans will not survive. They simply won't wise up in time. In fact, their current behavior is self-destructive. And becoming more religious wouldn't change that one iota.

If humans wish to survive they will need to get out from under these religious mythologies. There is no other solution.
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Do your part, convince the more fundamental of your peers to embrace liberal Islam. Healing cannot truly start when new wounds are still being created.

As for Spirit of Truth or Comforter, the Bible made it very clear it was referring to the Holy Spirit, not a human prophet.

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Nobody trusts the huffpo its a fake news site. I would advise that a christian only gets heard on it when they say something that supports or advances their agenda.

Many on the left believe that submission will bring peace with Islam and Islam would agree.

Im Christian thought we do not submit to God we wrestle with all our mind body and heart and in so doing we learn about God.
Proverbs 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.

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paarsurrey1 wrote: Won’t recognizing Muhammad as a Spirit of Truth result healing of Earth?

One may like to read:
“Muhammad as Spirit of Truth: A Christian Testimony Against Islamophobia�
It is always a good idea for people to talk and build bridges. Islamophobia is a misnomer. It suggests a certain irrationality in fearing Islam. People who walk the streets of London, Paris, Brussels, Berlin, Barcelona have every reason to fear that if their life is in danger from some explosive device it will almost certainly come from people who praise Allah. That is not phobia; it is acceptance of a horrible situation.

If we stop regarding Muhammad as a fake and pretend he is a spirit of truth, will that help? Or should we pay gold, as the old Saxons had to do to appease the invading Vikings? I have just read an account of a new teaching aid which some London woman wanted for her school. It teaches children as young as four the Arabic equivalent of: G is for gun, R is for rocket, K is for kill.... the nice text that ISIS used.


For evil to triumph it is sufficient good people do nothing. When an Imam preaches hate, he should be referred to the authorities, but how often does this happen? How many people knew there were weapons stored in a London mosque, and said nothing?

Islam must put its own house in order before asking others to believe their fears are groundless.

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"It is always a good idea for people to talk and build bridges. Islamophobia is a misnomer. It suggests a certain irrationality in fearing Islam. People who walk the streets of London, Paris, Brussels, Berlin, Barcelona have every reason to fear that if their life is in danger from some explosive device it will almost certainly come from people who praise Allah."

We hear about London, Paris..Barcelona as they are cities in our neighborhood, they part of 'our world'.
Thea atrocities in Palestine committed by people who praise Jehovah, are not as vivid, our news sources do not go on to repeat it day after day.
Can not ignore our Christian friends who praise Jesus Christ but judging by their deeds they are anitchrists supporting murder from Palestine and all over the ME.

As with Muslims, within these tares there is wheat of those who fear God and strive to do justice.

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Monta wrote:

We hear about London, Paris..Barcelona as they are cities in our neighborhood, they part of 'our world'.
The atrocities in Palestine committed by people who praise Jehovah, are not as vivid, our news sources do not go on to repeat it day after day.
What is happening in Palestine in seen through the distorting mirror of Hamas, who are happy to have reports of Israeli "atrocities." Israel reacts to being rocketed from over its border. You will be aware that Israel takes triple measures to try to ensure there are no civilian casualties; Hamas ensures there are, by building rocket bases under schools and private houses. The West hears the results.
Monta wrote: As with Muslims, within these tares there is wheat of those who fear God and strive to do justice.

Yes of course not every Muslim is a terrorist and to report terrorists in your midst takes bravery. If indeed there is some injustice being committed against Muslims somewhere, I don't see how killing children in Paris or Manchester is the answer. The Israel situation is taken as an excuse; the Palestinians are simply being used.

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"What is happening in Palestine in seen through the distorting mirror of Hamas, who are happy to have reports of Israeli "atrocities." Israel reacts to being rocketed from over its border."

I am sure both sides want to get the most out of media
while one side has nuclear weapons and top millitary equipment, the other side like David of old fights with slingshot.


IDF refuseniks - Haaretz Com
https://www.haaretz.com/misc/tags/idf-r ... -1.5599091
'We Won't Take Part in Occupation': Dozens of Teens Refuse to Enlist in Israeli Army in Letter to Netanyahu. 'The army is carrying out the government's racist policy that violates basic human rights,' 63 teens write to Netanyahu and Israeli military chief Gadi Eisenkot. Yaniv Kubovich. 28.12.2017.

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Monta wrote:
I am sure both sides want to get the most out of media
while one side has nuclear weapons and top military equipment, the other side like David of old fights with slingshot.


IDF refuseniks - Haaretz Com
Haaretz is a left wing reporting agency allowed under democratic policies to criticise the Government. What Muslim state would permit such a thing? Israel earns more points from her indulgence than does Haaretz from rounding up "refuseniks".

Another difference is that Israel does not specifically target children; the other side does. And when Israel announces in various ways her intention to destroy a rocket site that has been attacking her cities, what do you suppose happens to those people who want to leave for safety? Do you think Hamas lets them leave? I repeat: Hamas DELIBERATELY places rocket sites under schools and homes. Why? For humanitarian purposes?

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[Replying to post 9 by marco]

Marco, it is very hard responding to your post.

The editor of Haarets living in democratic Israel
has security guards at all times for his personal safety.

Children? Over 500 killed last Gaza war. Read on Israeli prisons
and how many children are there. You read it properly, children.

I don't live in Israel while Refusnics do and were involved in millitary operations.
I don't have a reason to denounce their claim.

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