Monta wrote:
"The story of Adam and Eve is just a fable conjured by bronze age goat herders who didnt knew better. Cool"
Years ago they also thought that a Medical Doctor was from the bronze age
because he insisted on washing of hands before operating.
Because 'he didn't know better' he was imprisoned and died in jail.
Irrelevant nonsense in an attempt to bring confusion, muddle the waters and distract from the real argument.
The bronze age goat herders are not wrong solely because they are from the bronze age but because
current scientific knowledge shows them to be wrong.
There is plenty scientific evidence there was no corruption of the universe via original sin.
Entropy-->decay, diseases, death, carnivores, birth problems, collapsing and exploding stars, black holes, asteroids, comets, atom decay --> natural(non-moral) evils exited long before the first Homo Sapiens Sapiens walked the Earth.
Therefore God is ultimately responsible for all the natural evils in the universe.
God is responsible for the 100,000 children under 15(many of them non-moral agents) that die from cancer(non-moral/natural evil) worldwide every year.
God is responsible for the countless infants and small children(non-moral agents) that die and have died from malformations and genetic disorders(non-moral/natural evils).
God is responsible for the countless infants and small children(non-moral agents)) who die and have died because of natural disasters(non-moral/natural evils). )
God is responsible for the countless animals(non-moral agents) that die and have died because of non-moral/natural evils.
Evidence:
1.
In rare instances, DNA is known to jump from one species to another, leaving a signature in the genome of the creature it moves to.
Scientists have now discovered one of these signatures - known as a DNA 'fossil' - dating back 25-17 million years ago in the genomes of modern birds.
Astonishingly this fossil DNA comes from a parasitic worm that is now responsible for some of the world's most grisly tropical diseases.
It suggests prehistoric birds were infected by these worms millions of years ago before the parasite jumped the species barrier and began infecting humans.
Alexander Suh, an expert in the small stretches of DNA called transportable elements that jump from one place to another at Uppsala University, helped make the discovery.
He discovered a new type of transposable element that occurred in certain bird genomes but not others, together with a team from eleven institutions in five countries.
By searching DNA databases, the team discovered that the only other animals that shared the new transposable element were nematode worms that are parasites of humans and other mammals.
'This finding was so unexpected that we were literally speechless at first,' he said.
By comparing the DNA sequences of each instance of the transposable element, his team was able to work out the transfer of DNA between nematodes and birds occurred in two waves across the entire tropics, including remote places like Madagascar.
It infected groups of birds such as parrots, hummingbirds and manakins, according to the study, published in the journal Nature Communications.
The researchers believe modern human parasite species of nematode worms made the move from infecting birds to humans some time sin the last 17 million years.
Two serious and gruesome human diseases are known to be caused by nematode worms and spread by mosquitoes - lymphatic filariasis and loiasis, known as eyeworm.
Lymphatic filariasis causes painful ulcers that can last for years, while people with loiasis, also known as loa loa, suffer from swollen eyes when worns inhabit the body part, with other symptoms including itching, joint pain, fatigue, and even death.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... umans.html
2. Leprosy has plagued mankind throughout history, but is far, far older than stories about the disease in the Bible, according to scientists.
A new study claims the disease is probably the oldest infectious disease in humans with roots stretching back millions of years.
A scientist at the University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Centre in Houston found that two leprosy-causing bacteria came from a last common bacterial ancestor around 10 million years ago and that ancient humans and hominids suffered from the disease.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... study.html
3. Another bacteria to have gone through the genetic analysis is Bordetella pertussis, the bacteria responsible for whooping cough. Originally thought to have passed to humans via a similar species found in domestic animals, the molecular evidence once again suggests that it has been around since before animals were first domesticated. Instead it may have evolved from the bacteria B. bronchiseptica which was present around 2.5 million years ago with a preference for infecting hominids. This makes a rather neat little story of a bacteria adapting to fit the changing hominids as they became human and evolving specifically to fit the human niche .
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/lab ... ancestors/
4. The oldest known evidence of Lyme disease may lie in ticks that were entombed in amber at least 15 million years ago, scientists announced.
The researchers investigated four fossilized ticks that had been trapped in chunks of amber found in the Dominican Republic. Inside the ticks' bodies, the scientists saw a large population of cells that looked like the squiggly shaped spirochete cells of the Borrelia genus " a type of bacteria that causes Lyme disease today.
http://www.livescience.com/46007-lyme-d ... -tick.html
5. In 2014, Maciej Henneberg, a critic of the claim that H. floresiensis is a distinct species, argued in a paper published with other scholars in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences[84] that LB1 suffered from Down syndrome, and that the remains of other individuals at the Flores site were merely normal H. sapiens of the Australomelanesian type. Down syndrome is one of the most common human developmental disorders, and is also exhibited in related hominoids such as the orangutan and the chimpanzee.[84] The authors write: "Our consistent hypothesis sees LB1 as a developmentally abnormal member of a recent Australomelanesian H. sapiens population, its features reflecting multiple compatible causes."
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/articl ... ne.0155731
6. It looks like the most badass predator to have ever roamed the Earth, but paleontologists have struggled to prove that Tyrannosaurus rex actually hunted its prey, leading some to believe that it was a scavenger. Now, the discovery of a T-rex tooth embedded in the tail of a hadrosaur offers the first direct evidence.
Top image: Robert DePalma depicts the possible attack scenario between a T-rex and hadrosaur.
That T-rex may have been a scavenger isnt as crazy a theory as it might appear; this is actually a longstanding debate that goes back nearly a century.
Was Tyrannosaurus Rex a fearsome predator or just another scavenger?
Paleontologists have uncovered tons of bones with tooth drag and puncture marks that would indicate predatory attacks, but these markings are difficult to attribute to a specific theropod. Whats more, some of these tooth marks could have been made on carcasses.
Yet other theories have speculated that there were too many Tyrannosauruses for the species to survive on hunting alone; it was more like a hyena than a cheetah or a lion, having to rely on opportunistic feeding to sate their appetites given their relative abundance.
Some even suspect it was a cannibal, or that it was a bully that preyed on
smaller dinosaurs.
http://io9.gizmodo.com/5767647/was-tyra ... -scavenger
7. Contrary to popular perceptions, humans are not the only animals that have difficulty during childbirth. One important characteristic of primates as a group is a large head and brain relative to body size (i.e., a high encephalization quotient). For most primates this means that their infants, at birth, have heads that are close to the size of the maternal birth canal through which they must pass. This is especially true of monkeys, lesser apes, and humans. Schultz 3,4 depicted this relationship in a classic figure, re-drawn here as Figure 1, showing the size of the maternal pelvic inlet and the infant cranium in Ateles, Nasalis, Macaca, Hylobates,
the great apes, and humans. The close correspondence between the size of the maternal pelvis and the size of neonatal cranium is obvious for monkeys, gibbons, and humans, whereas chimpanzees, gorillas, and orangutans appear to have spacious birth canals, probably as a result of their large bodies. As one would expect from examining these drawings, birth is reported to be difficult for the
smaller-bodied primates (monkeys and gibbons), as well as for humans, 5-9 but somewhat easier for the larger bodied (great) apes.
At some point in the evolutionary past of humans, the benefits of having assistance during birth outweighed the costs, so that the species-typical pattern of obligate midwifery emerged.
http://www.academia.edu/6580889/Bipedal ... _revisited
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obstetrical_dilemma
Gibbons (/bnz/[3]) are apes in the family Hylobatidae /halobtade, -di/[4]. The family historically contained one genus, but now is split into four genera and 17 species. Gibbons occur in tropical and subtropical rainforests from eastern Bangladesh and northeast India to southern China and Indonesia (including the islands ofSumatra, Borneo, and Java).
Whole genome molecular dating analyses indicate that the gibbon lineage diverged from that of great apes around 16.8 million years ago (Mya) (95% confidence interval: 15.9 " 17.6 Mya; given a divergence of 29 Mya from monkeys).[9] Adaptive divergence associated with chromosomal rearrangements led to rapid radiation of the four genera 5-7 Mya.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibbon
