Tradition clearly states Jesus was betrayed.
How can Jesus have been betrayed if he knew Judas was going to betray him? Betrayal is a surprise unexpected . Betrayal means taken by surprise. Have you ever been betrayed?
I believe Jesus was betrayed but as a biblical buff question the Gospel account where Jesus dismisses Judas to go do what he has to do.
John 13:26
Jesus replied, “He’s the one I give the piece of bread to after I have dipped it.� When He had dipped the bread, He gave it to Judas, Simon Iscariot’s son.
How can he be betrayed if he knows he is going to be betrayed?
As I said I believe he was betrayed but am afraid the account in John's Gospel is drama.
Show me I am thinking wrong.
How can Jesus have been betrayed if he knew ?
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Re: How can Jesus have been betrayed if he knew ?
Post #81[Replying to post 80 by bluethread]
To say God is both good and evil is so Zoroastrian. The Christian message is someday evil will be no more. The Easterner religions / philosophies /psychologies say evil happens but is not real evil is delusional and will be dissipated under absolute goodness. Eventually Evil will be no more. Check where the idea evil is co-eternal comes from.
Are you really trying to argue evil is co-eternal?
To say God is both good and evil is so Zoroastrian. The Christian message is someday evil will be no more. The Easterner religions / philosophies /psychologies say evil happens but is not real evil is delusional and will be dissipated under absolute goodness. Eventually Evil will be no more. Check where the idea evil is co-eternal comes from.
Are you really trying to argue evil is co-eternal?