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Post BBCode URL - Right click and save to clipboard to use later in post Post 1: Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:10 pm
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Logically Applying Requirements for God

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I think a huge motivator for debate here stems around us (fallible humans) applying requirements for what God (the omnipotent, omniscient, and perhaps all-loving Being) should have, especially in regards to moral stances and decisions.

1) Now on the one hand, there is the argument that we can't confidently make requirements for God. If we come from a stance of ignorance and God from a stance of all-knowing, we could make a requirement that is incorrect for God.

ex) A good God should believe x is wrong and y is right. A good God should have interfered to prevent so-and-so events from happening.

2) On the other hand, if we solely take on the previous view then how can we make any progress whatsoever for confidently saying what God should be like? Surely there must be some logical way to make requirements for what God should be like even though we are ignorant and not perfect and God by definition is perfect.

(1) and (2) are at odds with each other. Where do we go from here?

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Post BBCode URL - Right click and save to clipboard to use later in post Post 2: Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:23 pm
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[Replying to post 1 by jgh7]

First, I support the notion of an entirely good God given by The 10 Commandments and The Golden Rule. The Bible also says that all of God's creation should be respected and it means the animals, plants and the rest too!

I think most Christians sigh by any the idiot thoughts that we are supposed to go around listening for God's commands when in fact the only words from God we have are in the Bible! Absolutely!

Also, God resides in the all good place of Heaven. The heavy history of Catholicism by eg. The Purgatory proves this. If God is supposed to be both good and evil why the existence of Satan, The Devil, Belial, Belzebub, Mammon and Hell (obviously, where God does not reside)!

So, finally, read the Bible with the God of goodness in heart, charitably, and the Bible "opens up" to you!

Best wishes! Very Happy

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Post BBCode URL - Right click and save to clipboard to use later in post Post 3: Sat Jul 14, 2018 1:41 pm
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There are some things we can say from philosophy. For example, God's existence is a necessary existence and does not require anything external to it to give it existence. As for moral questions - we depend largely on revelation and the inspired writings that have come to us down through the ages. These revelations come to us in different forms and in different religions but the essence of all true religions is the same.

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Post BBCode URL - Right click and save to clipboard to use later in post Post 4: Sun Jul 15, 2018 1:33 am
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jgh7 wrote:


Surely there must be some logical way to make requirements for what God should be like even though we are ignorant and not perfect and God by definition is perfect.



God by definition is perfect? Maybe by your definition. God by my definition is a mythological being which no one should waste their time believing in.

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