Did Jesus really rise from the dead?

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Did Jesus really rise from the dead?

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Christianity is based on the claim that Jesus rose from the dead.

Let's look at the history we have.

Jesus was crucified by the Romans in the 30-33 AD time frame. (Outside of the New Testament we have reports by Josephus and Tacitus, both non-christian historians.

When was it first written that Jesus had risen from the dead and by whom?

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polonius.advice wrote:
brianbbs67 wrote: [Replying to post 54 by polonius.advice]

Another poor KJ translation that has stuck. Here's the JPS Tanakh Zech 9:9:

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RESPONSE: Perhaps you sould quote the whole sentence and not cut off the essential ending of the last sentence in each. ;)

9Be exceedingly happy, O daughter of Zion; Shout, O daughter of Jerusalem. Behold! Your king shall come to you. He is just and victorious; humble, and riding a donkey and a foal, the offspring of [one of] she-donkeys.
I did not. I showed them as printed.

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EarthScienceguy wrote: [Replying to post 54 by polonius.advice]

Dude get some better examples.

Matthew was translating from Hebrew to Greek. The idea is the same in both passages.
NO, not at all. There is no word "and" in the original prophecy. But it appear in Matthew;s gospel.

5b “Say to daughter Zion,

‘Behold, your king comes to you,

meek and riding on an ass,

and on a colt, the foal of a beast of burden.’�

Footnote from the New American Bible.
* [21:4–5] The prophet: this fulfillment citation is actually composed of two distinct Old Testament texts, Is 62:11 (Say to daughter Zion) and Zec 9:9. The ass and the colt are the same animal in the prophecy, mentioned twice in different ways, the common Hebrew literary device of poetic parallelism. That Matthew takes them as two is one of the reasons why some scholars think that he was a Gentile rather than a Jewish Christian who would presumably not make that mistake (see Introduction).

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Re: Did Jesus really rise from the dead?

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polonius wrote: Christianity is based on the claim that Jesus rose from the dead.

Let's look at the history we have.

Jesus was crucified by the Romans in the 30-33 AD time frame. (Outside of the New Testament we have reports by Josephus and Tacitus, both non-christian historians.

When was it first written that Jesus had risen from the dead and by whom?
It was first written by the Spirit of truth
before your world was created in the Book of Life.

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TLIG wrote:
polonius wrote: Christianity is based on the claim that Jesus rose from the dead.

Let's look at the history we have.

Jesus was crucified by the Romans in the 30-33 AD time frame. (Outside of the New Testament we have reports by Josephus and Tacitus, both non-christian historians.

When was it first written that Jesus had risen from the dead and by whom?
It was first written by the Spirit of truth
before your world was created in the Book of Life.
RESPONSE: The Book of Life is a bit of a fantasy, isn't it? Do you have any evidence otherwise?

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