Clownboat wrote:You can attempt to argue that an embryo is human, but to no avail since the value of an embryo is not the same value as an actual human life.
Rightreasons wrote:Thank you for your opinion, but I disagree.
Actually, I don't think you have given this enough thought as I'm sure you actually do agree with me. You have to say this, otherwise you are conceding my argument.
Not even close I would argue and that is not even taking into account that almost half of all fertilizations naturally abort (just to put an embryo into perspective).
What does that have to do with anything?
Just perspective and for evaluation. Do nearly 50% of 3 year olds die naturally? No, they don't you say, unlike a fertilization event in a human? Hmm... differences then huh?
Ask any women who knew she was pregnant and experienced a miscarriage if her developing baby had value even though she may only have been pregnant for a matter of weeks.
Why would I do that? Do you think I have argued that a fetus has zero value, because I have not?
It is actually the opposite. To devalue a human life just because he/she canâ€™t speak for him/herself yet is what is the disservice. To take advantage or ignore the most vulnerable among us.
I am not devaluing. Please keep up.
I'm pointing out that there is a value difference. If you don't see it, I can explain it to you if you are willing to participate.
Works OK I guess if your attempting to make an emotional argument over a factual one
Iâ€™d say you have that reversed. I am the one arguing from science, biology, facts.
You're using words like baby and murder instead of making an actual argument.
You appear to be the one making an emotional appeal â€“ claiming a human being is only a human being when another human being decides or chooses to give that human being value.
Copy/paste where I said this or please retract.
Question for you:
If abortion were deemed illegal and when some women were to get them performed anyway, those caught, do they deserve the same penalty as those the have committed murder? (Death penalty in some states)
There are many things that are immoral â€“ that doesnâ€™t mean I want to see the death penalty applied or even extreme punishment.
You called it murder! Are you back tracking now? I want to know if you would hand out the same punishment in this scenario as you would for an actual murderer. Would you?
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