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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2017 2:02 pm  Is Jonah a God like Jesus? Reply with quote

ttruscott wrote:

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Jonah died in the 'fish'...Jonah 2:2 He said:
“In my distress I called to the Lord,
and he answered me.
From deep in the realm of the dead I called for help,
and you listened to my cry.

6 To the roots of the mountains I sank down;
the earth beneath barred me in forever. The roots of the mountains are below the seafloor...the place of Sheol. So while his dead body was still in the 'whale', he was in Sheol.

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Jonah died in the 'fish'...

If Jesus died on the Cross and got resurrected and this makes Jesus a God, with the same argument Jonah should be Christian-God, as Jonah as per the quote put forward by friend ttruscott also died in the belly of the fish and got resurrected from the dead. Right, please?
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Wootah wrote:

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You are correct. Everytime we deligitimize the Bible by saying something is metaphor then we must allow the NT story is not real either.

It doesn't mean the Koran is real. If anything it means that modern people do not accept the word of ancient fairy tales.

Why aren't you trying to be a modern person and start looking at the Koran as an ancient fairy tale?

Why can you understand the argument you are making against Jonah but not applying it to your own holy book?


I am a man evolved in billions of years under a process set by One-True-God. In me, ancient and modernity converge. Past cannot be separated from me while I live in the modern world. Truth was and is and will remain the same though it changes virtually, it is Absolute, beyond time and space.

Quran is not an ancient tale, it claims it and gives reasons.
Right, please?

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Jesus said that before we point out the c speck in someone else's eye we should remove the log in our own eye.

That's what I was reminded of by your reply.

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Wootah wrote:

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You are correct. Everytime we deligitimize the Bible by saying something is metaphor then we must allow the NT story is not real either.

It doesn't mean the Koran is real. If anything it means that modern people do not accept the word of ancient fairy tales.

Why aren't you trying to be a modern person and start looking at the Koran as an ancient fairy tale?

Why can you understand the argument you are making against Jonah but not applying it to your own holy book?

Quran does not peg Jesus tribulations on the Cross with those of Jonah's.
If Quran pegs it with Jonah, then please quote it.
It is Bible that establishes/pegs it with Jonah and then cannot prove it. It is Pauline Christianity that makes this mythical story.

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paarsurrey1 wrote:

Wootah wrote:

[Replying to post 7 by paarsurrey1]

You are correct. Everytime we deligitimize the Bible by saying something is metaphor then we must allow the NT story is not real either.

It doesn't mean the Koran is real. If anything it means that modern people do not accept the word of ancient fairy tales.

Why aren't you trying to be a modern person and start looking at the Koran as an ancient fairy tale?

Why can you understand the argument you are making against Jonah but not applying it to your own holy book?

Quran does not peg Jesus tribulations on the Cross with those of Jonah's.
If Quran pegs it with Jonah, then please quote it.
It is Bible that establishes/pegs it with Jonah and then cannot prove it. It is Pauline Christianity that makes this mythical story.


Anybody, please
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paarsurrey1 wrote:

paarsurrey1 wrote:

Wootah wrote:

[Replying to post 7 by paarsurrey1]

You are correct. Everytime we deligitimize the Bible by saying something is metaphor then we must allow the NT story is not real either.

It doesn't mean the Koran is real. If anything it means that modern people do not accept the word of ancient fairy tales.

Why aren't you trying to be a modern person and start looking at the Koran as an ancient fairy tale?

Why can you understand the argument you are making against Jonah but not applying it to your own holy book?

Quran does not peg Jesus tribulations on the Cross with those of Jonah's.
If Quran pegs it with Jonah, then please quote it.
It is Bible that establishes/pegs it with Jonah and then cannot prove it. It is Pauline Christianity that makes this mythical story.


Anybody, please
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It is the Bible which aligns the 3 days of Jonah with the 3 days of Jesus on the cross, Matthew 12:39-41

So then you denounce that from the Bible as a "ridiculous assertion" in your comment #9

Thereafter the person "Wootah" is asking you why you do not use the same judgment against the Qur'an ? since you use it against the Bible.

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JP Cusick wrote:

paarsurrey1 wrote:

paarsurrey1 wrote:

Wootah wrote:

[Replying to post 7 by paarsurrey1]

You are correct. Everytime we deligitimize the Bible by saying something is metaphor then we must allow the NT story is not real either.

It doesn't mean the Koran is real. If anything it means that modern people do not accept the word of ancient fairy tales.

Why aren't you trying to be a modern person and start looking at the Koran as an ancient fairy tale?

Why can you understand the argument you are making against Jonah but not applying it to your own holy book?

Quran does not peg Jesus tribulations on the Cross with those of Jonah's.
If Quran pegs it with Jonah, then please quote it.
It is Bible that establishes/pegs it with Jonah and then cannot prove it. It is Pauline Christianity that makes this mythical story.


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It is the Bible which aligns the 3 days of Jonah with the 3 days of Jesus on the cross, Matthew 12:39-41

So then you denounce that from the Bible as a "ridiculous assertion" in your comment #9

Thereafter the person "Wootah" is asking you why you do not use the same judgment against the Qur'an ? since you use it against the Bible.

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It is the Bible which aligns the 3 days of Jonah with the 3 days of Jesus on the cross, Matthew 12:39-41

Bible doesn't say that but says:

40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly

Bible says "three days and three nights", 3 days+3 nignts; which Jesus did not accomplish. Did he, please?

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paarsurrey1 wrote:

Bible doesn't say that but says:

40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly

Bible says "three days and three nights", 3 days+3 nignts; which Jesus did not accomplish. Did he, please?

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The Bible has it correct - and it is just people and Christianity that has it wrong.

It was 3 days and 3 nights - and the crucifixion was done as the Passover and nothing to do with Easter.

The "Last Supper" was the Passover meal (Matthew 26:17-20) starting on a Tuesday evening, and then the next day Wednesday Jesus got arrested and had trials, and then crucified on Wednesday evening and resurrected late Saturday (Sabbath Day) at the late evening time - which is the beginning of the 1st day Sunday at sundown on Saturday evening, see Matthew 28:1

That counts as a full 3 days = Thursday, Friday, Sabbath Day, = and 3 nights being Wednesday night, Thursday night and Friday night.

Christianity has it wrong - the Bible has it correct.

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JP Cusick,
re: "...the next day Wednesday Jesus got arrested and had trials, and then crucified on Wednesday evening..."

Wednesday evening had been over some 3 hours by the time of the crucifixion at the 3rd hour (around 9am).

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