The nature of God. If Trinune,

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The nature of God. If Trinune,

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If, (as Trinitarian apologists suggest) God is Triune and this fact is revealed even in the Old Testament, why didn't God make this clear to Abraham, Moses, Isaiah, etc?

Instead of allowing them to go around believing He is absolutely one.

Why not spell it out that God is supposedly triune, instead of leaving the notion dormant in the Hebrew Bible, awaiting (re?)discovery by future theologians and revisionists?

Instead, after leading His people out of pagan polytheism, God drilled it into his people's head that He is one.

"Hear O Israel, YHVH your God, YHVH is one".

One...not one of many, not three-in-one, simply one.

Why would God do this, if in fact He were "triune"?
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-God created us in His image, not the other way around.
-The Bible is redeemed by it's good parts.
-Pure monotheism, simple repentance.
-YHVH is LORD
-The real Jesus is not God, the real YHVH is not a monster.
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Re: The nature of God. If Trinune,

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[Replying to Elijah John]
If, (as Trinitarian apologists suggest) God is Triune and this fact is revealed even in the Old Testament, why didn't God make this clear to Abraham, Moses, Isaiah, etc?

Instead of allowing them to go around believing He is absolutely one.

Why not spell it out that God is supposedly triune, instead of leaving the notion dormant in the Hebrew Bible, awaiting (re?)discovery by future theologians and revisionists?
Why wait until Abraham to reveal Himself as “I am�? Didn’t people exist prior to Abraham? Why didn’t God reveal Himself to them?
Instead, after leading His people out of pagan polytheism, God drilled it into his people's head that He is one.
Because He IS – One God. Are you unfamiliar with how the Trinity works?
Why would God do this, if in fact He were "triune"?
Do what? Do what He wanted when He wanted? Gee, maybe because He knows what He’s doing.

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Re: The nature of God. If Trinune,

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Elijah John wrote: If, (as Trinitarian apologists suggest) God is Triune and this fact is revealed even in the Old Testament, why didn't God make this clear to Abraham, Moses, Isaiah, etc?

Instead of allowing them to go around believing He is absolutely one.

Why not spell it out that God is supposedly triune, instead of leaving the notion dormant in the Hebrew Bible, awaiting (re?)discovery by future theologians and revisionists?

Instead, after leading His people out of pagan polytheism, God drilled it into his people's head that He is one.

"Hear O Israel, YHVH your God, YHVH is one".

One...not one of many, not three-in-one, simply one.

Why would God do this, if in fact He were "triune"?
RESPONSE:

The Trinity story dates only from the late first century but became policy at the 325 A.D. Council. The Christians had to find a way to handle "Hear O Isreal, the Lord is One" yet still have a second divinity (Jesus).

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Re: The nature of God. If Trinune,

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polonius wrote: 2 Timothy's "all scripture is God breathed" was not even written by Paul. So much for biblical integrity.
If it is GOD breathed, no one cares who held the pen...except the straw man builder.
PCE Theology as I see it...

We had an existence with a free will in Sheol before the creation of the physical universe. Here we chose to be able to become holy or to be eternally evil in YHWH's sight. Then the physical universe was created and all sinners were sent to earth.

This theology debunks the need to base Christianity upon the blasphemy of creating us in Adam's sin.

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Re: The nature of God. If Trinune,

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ttruscott wrote:
polonius wrote: 2 Timothy's "all scripture is God breathed" was not even written by Paul. So much for biblical integrity.
If it is GOD breathed, no one cares who held the pen...except the straw man builder.
QUESTION:

What evidence is there other than a mere claim that "all scripture is God breathed"?

Can't any writer make such a claim?

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Re: The nature of God. If Trinune,

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[Replying to post 23 by ttruscott]

But pious fraud would reveal something about the author if it still is claimed as "God breathed"

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