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I am reminded that when one is not specific enough, another can find loopholes to dance through, with the pretense that they are answering a question asked of them, even that they most certainly are not, and likely know that is the case.

The reader note, the JWOrg imagery can paint GOD and ANGELS with European skin, or even with animal heads, but when asked, have trouble finding any imagery of GOD or Angels as being non-European in complexion.

Why am I not surprised...

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William wrote:
Thus the imagery shows us - along with the explanations of the imagery, that the JW organisation as a business is attracting a certain type of [person] no dreadlocks, no body art, no untrimmed beards ...

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SOURCE https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2019487







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[Replying to post 82 by JehovahsWitness]

Please explain to the reader, in your own words, what you see in the image you have posted.

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William wrote:
Thus the imagery shows us - along with the explanations of the imagery, that the JW organisation as a business is attracting a certain type of [person] no dreadlocks, no body art, no untrimmed beards ...

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SOURCE https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2019487

#1. In this image we see two men (one black one white) presumably representing Jehovah's Witness ministers, discussing the bible with a man with a beard, and body art (tatoos) possibly "a biker" ( an enthusiast of motorbikes and the culture that has built around them). One might conclude the image is in the literature so that people that lead this lifestyle, might identify with what they see since images are a powerful tool in transmitting messages.

The purpose of this thread is to explore ALL of the imagery as it is posted, with in mind to understand the type of market niche the JW organization is after in relation to the individuals it attracts through said imagery.
Emphasis MINE

#2. Presumably the intended message is that JWs are not selective of who they preach to, and that the organisation is "after" anyone, anyone at all that likes the idea of living in paradise and is desirous of making the needed changes* to be there, regardless of their skin colour, lifestyle or sexual orientation.

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SOURCE https://tv.jw.org/#en/mediaitems/VODInt ... 06_5_VIDEO

* What changes? Conform to God's standards as expressed in the bible. LEARN MORE
https://tv.jw.org/#en/mediaitems/VODInt ... 05_1_VIDEO
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/301999007#h=55



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The question I have is what would JWs expect this dude to look like if he bought the sales pitch they were presenting.


Would they expect him to wear a neck tie as the two JWs are wearing and if so, what would a neck tie have to do with righteousness or whatever it is that the two JWs are attempting to sell?



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[Replying to post 85 by Tcg]

I dont reply to loaded questions. The picture depicts a bible study with two of Jehovah's Witnesses and nothing is sold to the students before, during or after following a bible study course. All bible courses are offered free of charge.

For more information on studying the bible with jw see video "What Happens at a Bible Study?" below.

SOURCE : https://tv.jw.org/#en/mediaitems/VODMin ... bs_x_VIDEO
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gf_Qcufwvy8[/youtube]
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[Replying to post 84 by JehovahsWitness]

William: The New Earth imagery shows us - along with the explanations of the imagery - that the JW organisation as a business is attracting a certain type of [person] no dreadlocks, no body art, no untrimmed beards, no men with long hair.


JehovahsWitness: Here is an image...


William: Please explain to the reader, in your own words, what you see in the image you have posted.

JehovahsWitness: In this image we see two men (one black one white) presumably representing Jehovah's Witness ministers, discussing the bible with a man with a beard, and body art (tatoos) possibly "a biker" ( an enthusiast of motorbikes and the culture that has built around them). One might conclude the image is in the literature so that people that lead this lifestyle, might identify with what they see since images are a powerful tool in transmitting messages.

William:
Q:What has that image got to do with what I wrote about the type of imagery the organization uses to depict those living in the New Earth situation?

Q: Can you show the reader any image used to depict those living in the New Earth situation which includes the things I mentioned as being absent?

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William wrote:
My argument focuses on Allan Boyle's claim to have done research related to his artwork, which goes against his portrayal of Europeans been depicted in said artwork in the roles of Noah, Daniel and Jesus.
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"Physiographically, [Continental Europe¤] occupies the northwestern part of the large landmass known as Eurasia and surrounded from... the south by the Mediterranean Sea, and from the southeast by the Black Sea" - https://www.countries-ofthe-world.com
Pictures of MEDITERRANEAN Europeans¤ & Middle Easterners
Image


WHAT COLOUR WAS JESUS?
"... the average Judean of the time would have likely had dark brown to black hair, olive skin*, and brown eyes. [* ]Olive skin is a human skin color spectrum. It is often associated with pigmentation in the Type III [to] V ranges of the Fitzpatrick scale. It generally refers to light or moderate brown, brownish, or tannish skin..."
SOURCE: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_an ... e_of_Jesus ; https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olive_skin

WOULD JESUS HAVE HAD SIMILAR COLOURING TO SOUTHERN EUROPEANS FROM THE MEDITERRANEAN REGIONS?
Type V pigmentation is frequent among [various] populations from the Middle East, parts of the Mediterranean*..." - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olive_skin
[*] There are 21 countries that border the Mediterranean including those of southern EUROPE such as Spain, Italy [ 1], Greece [ 5] and Turkey [ 4]

WHICH PEOPLES ARE CLOSEST GENETICALLY* TO JEWS IN JESUS DAY?
“According to Yossi Nagar, Jews of Second Temple times had a lot in common with Jews from the area of Iraq [ 2]today,� Yossi Nagar, Israeli biohistorian
https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-a-fore ... look-like/
"According to a new scientific study, Jews are the genetic brothers of Palestinians [ 9], Syrians [ 8]and Lebanese [ 3], [ 6], and they all share a common genetic lineage" - New York University Medical Center And School Of Medicine, Science Daily, 9 May 2000. www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2000/05/000509003653.htm
NOTE Genetic ancestry is not necessarily reflected in ones skin tone



WHICH CONTEMPORARY RELIGIOUS ARTWORK GIVES AN ACCURATE DEPICTION OF JESUS?

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William:
Q:What has that image got to do with what I wrote about the type of imagery the organization uses to depict those living in the New Earth situation?

Q: Can you show the reader any image used to depict those living in the New Earth situation which includes the things I mentioned as being absent?


JWOrg Proselytizer: WHICH CONTEMPORARY RELIGIOUS ARTWORK GIVES AN ACCURATE DEPICTION OF JESUS?

William: Okay! No need to SHOUT! :)
The reader will note that while scribes are mentioned following Jesus around, there in no mention of his barber doing the same. It would be more accurate for a person to assume that Jesus might have had dreadlocks. I do not believe the image presented is as accurate as claimed.
I think that rather, the JWOrg Proselytizer is infatuated by the robes men wear in the name of her idea of GOD. Images encourage such infatuation...perhaps a distraction from having to answer my questions above?

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