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PostPosted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 1:53 pm  Sharing In The Building Reply with quote

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I, as moderator, am interested in helping to build an environment that all participants are comfortable with, bearing in mind that the rules of this sub-forum are the cornerstones from which such foundation will be built, and as such - are the overall guide for all participants to follow.

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"I have the fire ready when he returns. Then he does.

Callum: I hope your time away provided you with rest and, perhaps, insights to share. I read the book and I'm at the same place. I would love to understand better and am willing to try one more time if we can go little by little. I think, since I'm trying to understand things, that I should direct the discussion for a little while to see if gives us different results. If you care not to try that, then just stop me now, my friend."

I would say change the first line above to "I'll have the fire ready if he returns." And then just delete everything else.

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    Callum: I hope your time away provided you with rest and, perhaps, insights to share. I read the book and I'm at the same place. I would love to understand better and am willing to try one more time if we can go little by little. I think, since I'm trying to understand things, that I should direct the discussion for a little while to see if gives us different results. If you care not to try that, then just stop me now, my friend."



William: When the next thread - Act II -is created, you may wish to then start off with those words.

Presently I have just finished an interaction with Manu Iti while he was enjoying his Quiet Time down by the King Frog Pond, and we came up with an idea of approach which we will try out in Act II.
Before I create the thread I will be going through Act I mapping out with succinct points how things unfolded, and perhaps add some comments, to post at the end. You might also like to do something similar.
Once we are both finished with the Act I thread, I will lock it.
Cheers!

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Okay - The Act II thread is almost ready to open Tanager. Before we begin posting, I would just like to offer you the opportunity to write something in relation to the characters Callum and The Bird and The Tanager.

If so, just jot them down and post them here and I will add them to the OP of Act II.

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The character intros will follow a thought I've had. It may have a drastic effect on what this Act will cover. In the first Act, I saw it as a more mysterious setting/framework that was open as to the truth of things to where our characters' different views could both be explored.

The way the second act introductions you offer comes across, gives me the idea that we could move towards both accepting your framework as truth about Manu Iti and Callum's existence. However, that would mean we focus on an analysis of your worldview and how my character will respond to such a worldview being really true. This would mean that my worldview would not be explored that much, if at all. I'm fine doing that (although I'm not sure really how to get Callum there rationally), but I would not want this to be perceived as dodging on my part. The lack of critiquing my views would be a necessary element of the story it seems to me.

Let me know what you think about that and here are some character blurbs:

Callum. He is a visitor to the Encampment, under the impression that he has lived a life very similar to those who live in The Physical Universe. He has since learned that his existence is quite a bit different than he originally thought, but is still unaware of The Hologram Dimensions.

I'm not really sure what to add about The Tanager for this story. He has never seen William/Wiremu, but is a willing co-creator (or perhaps assistant creator is more accurate) within The Encampment. He remains mysterious.

The Bird is a small bird that enjoys dancing, song, poems, discussions and all things artistic. She is a comforting creature to Callum.

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The Tanager: The character intros will follow a thought I've had. It may have a drastic effect on what this Act will cover. In the first Act, I saw it as a more mysterious setting/framework that was open as to the truth of things to where our characters' different views could both be explored.

William: The Idea of creating this Sub-Forum as an exercise in Role-Playing has never been hidden. It was created to explore many different ideas to do with The Metaphysical in relation to what we here in this Universe regard as "The Real World". [TRW]
In TRW, it has been observed that Role-Playing is very much a happening thing within the platforms of Human interaction as well as how Judgmentalism is the usual mechanism operating said Role-Playing.
This is specific as to why the rule "No Judging" is specified as necessary - to observe if - and in what ways - the interaction might differ and where such might lead.


The Tanager: The way the second act introductions you offer comes across, gives me the idea that we could move towards both accepting your framework as truth about Manu Iti and Callum's existence.

William: The theory I offer re my own theology, is that in relation to The Metaphysical Universe, Human Imagination has a great influence and effect on the MU, and visa versa.
You might be able keep an open mind without having to actually believe your creation is real.
Indeed, this in itself would be something worth exploring in relation to The Creator idea.


The Tanager: However, that would mean we focus on an analysis of your worldview and how my character will respond to such a worldview being really true.

William: Throughout Act I, your Character has responded to the situation as being true. I would submit that the aspect of the 'worldview' as noted in my last paragraph should not be ignored on account that you yourself have a world view which might be contrary to my own. It may work out that it is more similar that not.
We cannot know how that might pan out when examined without Judgement, if we do not try.


The Tanager: This would mean that my worldview would not be explored that much, if at all. I'm fine doing that (although I'm not sure really how to get Callum there rationally), but I would not want this to be perceived as dodging on my part. The lack of critiquing my views would be a necessary element of the story it seems to me.

William: As I hinted earlier, my interaction with Manu Iti in his Quiet Time provided he and I with a possible direction we can pursue in relation to the interaction between you and I through the device of the Role-Play.
It may work out, that critiquing either world-view against the other won't be necessary. Certainly it hasn't achieved anything substantial up to this point, which is a fair chunk of the reason that Act II came about.

Since your role is Callums Creator, you might want to think about making The Tanager less mysterious in that role, unless of course you are being so because this is how you 'see' your own creator in relation to you.
In which case, it might be of value to remain aloof, but I personally think that this contributes to the problem Callum and Manu Iti have re communication, as it has been left mostly to me (Wiremu) and Manu Iti to inform Callum what we know about his creator...which - although, is not a lot - has been a necessary element in order to try and explain to him where he is and help he and his creator decide where he best be, in The Hologram Dimensions aka "The Metaphysical Universe."

Obviously you as Callums Creator have also been informed through the Role-Play Characters, in the same way as Callum has been informed.

Perhaps a good thing to note is that, unlike the introduction to Act 1, the intro to Act II is far more informative etc, due to us having co-created in a 'make it up as we go along' manner, and thus the story has developed...it would be a happy thing - I think - if it continued to develop, but of course, won't, if you choose to bow out now.

But if you do so choose that path, then Act II becomes an epilogue rather than a prologue and I would just pin it to the end of Act I and delete the Act II thread altogether.

Let me know if you want to continue...

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William wrote:
The Idea of creating this Sub-Forum as an exercise in Role-Playing has never been hidden. It was created to explore many different ideas to do with The Metaphysical in relation to what we here in this Universe regard as "The Real World". [TRW]


With your description of the Situation in the OP of Act II, there is a much clearer attempt to control the truth of the setting of this story than what started off our interaction in Act I. I think that is a good thing.

William wrote:
Throughout Act I, your Character has responded to the situation as being true. I would submit that the aspect of the 'worldview' as noted in my last paragraph should not be ignored on account that you yourself have a world view which might be contrary to my own. It may work out that it is more similar that not.
We cannot know how that might pan out when examined without Judgement, if we do not try.


I know you'll say you've clearly identified what you mean by judgment, but I still don't know what you mean by this concept. My questions there were not clearly addressed in Act I.

William wrote:
As I hinted earlier, my interaction with Manu Iti in his Quiet Time provided he and I with a possible direction we can pursue in relation to the interaction between you and I through the device of the Role-Play.


Looking forward to it.

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