Do Atheists on this forum support Communism, North Korea etc

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If you are atheist, do you sympathize with Communism?

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Do Atheists on this forum support Communism, North Korea etc

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Aetixintro says:
For a start, though Christians may support Iranian-style Theocracy, it's the "Atheists" who support stuff like Communism (Mao, Stalin) and North Korea.
I know of few, if any, on this forum who subscribe to Communism or North Korea. I certainly do not -- my non-belief stems from a life time of experience, including the caliber of people I've met who are religious and those who are not. none of the latter are sympathetic to Communism.
Aetixintro says:Then we also argue who would support the killing of Abrahamic people, the Jews, Nazi-style by Hitler the most as well. Atheist or Christian act?
This is a simplistic notion that one group of people are more prone to kill than others. I think you infer that Atheists are more prone to kill. But I refer you to recent mass shootings in the USA: for the most part it has been troubled Christians and Muslims doing the shootings -- I know of no atheists involved in these shootings (or flying airplanes into buildings like on 9/11.
Aetixintro says:Conclusion: Liberals (by rule of law) are as likely to be Christians as they are "Atheist".
I don't understand your conclusion -- that it explains the totality of your post?
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bjs wrote:
I was clearly mistaken in my assumption that most atheists do not support totalitarian violence. My bad.

You came to this conclusion from ONE post? One post and you draw a conclusion about MOST atheists. This wouldn't even add up if there were two atheists in the world. I suspect there a few more than that.


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Given the relatively small number of people who post here consistently, one seems like a sizable percentage of the whole.

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bjs wrote: [Replying to Tcg]

Given the relatively small number of people who post here consistently, one seems like a sizable percentage of the whole.

Your conclusion involved a universal, "most atheists." It was not limited to, "most atheists who post here consistently." Even if it were, one out of ten or so doesn't qualify as, "a sizable percentage of the whole."

There are, as I'm sure you are aware, many atheists who don't post here. You are of course free to base your conclusion on an absurdly small sample, but I doubt others will follow suit.


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What good is truth if its value is not more than unproven, handed-down faith?

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bjs wrote: [Replying to Bust Nak]

Yes, it is entirely possible that those who claimed that they were motivated by atheism were confused or dishonest.
A politician confused or dishonest -- is that possible?
I am always a fan of consistent reasoning, so let’s apply your reasoning to a different setting. Would you agree with someone who said that the Muslims in ISIS were not motivated by Islam since Islam cannot motivate violence?
My opinion is no.
(Also, just out of personal curiosity, if atheism can’t motivate any action then what is the point of being an atheist?)
Like someone said: ". . . it is a label." We ARE different from the theists in that we adhere to a live and let live philosophy, so long as it adheres to rules of civil behavior.

There is no room for hatred and punishment dictated by dogma and other ecclesiastic mumbo jumbo aimed at promoting some pie in the sky notion of UNPROVEN omniscience and eternal life.

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