Is racism scientific?
Answer seems yes.
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Isn't our racism just part of our sin nature?
Is racism scientific?
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Is racism scientific?
Post #1Proverbs 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.
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Re: Racism
Post #91[Replying to post 88 by William]
May i was a member of the fremasonary and kill anyone who is insisted on his own darkness/foolishness
Could you show/guide me!? Haha
Indeed i forgot add another example of animality to the above,
May i was a member of the fremasonary and kill anyone who is insisted on his own darkness/foolishness
Could you show/guide me!? Haha
Indeed i forgot add another example of animality to the above,
Yuzarsif wrote:1. This human rights and equate Male and Female
2. Again this human rights that doesn't kill or cut hands of the thefts and adultery
3. Someone see roaches/spiders etc and be fearful
etc..
4. Arrogance
5. Ultra-arrogance = Foolishness
6. Selfish
7. Self axle/criterion/center
Etc...
I assume your beliefs are the better! Well, be soldier of God and convert me. By your own reasonings also tell me my wrong beliefs and why..>>
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Post #92
It because it's irrelevant.Daedalus X wrote: I still wonder why you left out that reason. Was it the fact that it did not support your argument?
To those who wants to argue that races are separate species. He was outlining the arguments of his opponents. He says quite clearly that the differences between the races were unimportant and just skin deep.You are trying to say that Darwin thought the differences between the races were unimportant and just skin deep. But, Darwin actually wrote "many differences in structure and constitution, some being of importance."
Darwin though otherwise and provided said evidence in the similarities of our mental capability and biological compatibility.There is no more scientific evidence for the skin deep theory than there is for the flat Earth theory. The main reason why anyone believes in the skin deep theory has to do with political correctness and trying to avoid the label of "racist".
Sure.Can we agree that negros and Europeans had a common ancestor going back many years, possibly thousands of generations ago.
Not significantly. According to Out of Africa model, humans were already "anatomically modern" during early migration.Do you really think that the human brain has not evolved in those many generations?
Why do you think a tremendous amount of variation in our brain function? Some people are smart while others are stupid, but our brain function very similarly.If you think the brain has evolved, do you really think it evolved at the same rate in every different population group, giving us our modern brains which are now equal in all population groups, yet the people within the groups have a tremendous amount of variation in their brain function?
Nothing Sam Harris said is controversial. Is he racist?Take a look at Sam Harris taking about the 'Bell Curve' and the important differences between the races.
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Re: Racism
Post #93[Replying to post 89 by Yusef]
No evidence was provided, it's just an earlier instance of you making an absurd claim.
An earlier instance of you making a claim is not viable evidence for your own claim.
Your absurd claim (which goes against forum policy) ought to be rebuked by anyone who believes in sound, ethical debate.
No evidence was provided, it's just an earlier instance of you making an absurd claim.
An earlier instance of you making a claim is not viable evidence for your own claim.
Your absurd claim (which goes against forum policy) ought to be rebuked by anyone who believes in sound, ethical debate.
Indeed, one could define science as reason’s attempt to compensate for our inability to perceive big numbers... so we have science, to deduce about the gargantuan what we, with our infinitesimal faculties, will never sense. If people fear big numbers, is it any wonder that they fear science as well and turn for solace to the comforting smallness of mysticism?
-Scott Aaronson
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Re: Racism
Post #94Or perhaps a Sunni, or even a Martian. His life was endangered in Germany because of anti-Jewish feeling; he may not have practised his Jewish faith but he preserved and respected it. There would be no rational reason for him converting to Islam.
He didn't.
Yusef wrote:
Aql[Wisdom] is a favor/gift from God! And God Has Gave one a few, Gave one the more, Gave one the more and more up to the full! And we Ahl-ul-Bayit are the same those who Has Given us the full.
It must of course be hard for you, however wise God has made you, to put your message across in English. Perhaps a female teacher, whom God has made even wiser than you, might be the best instructor, not just in learning but in human relations. There are many here who are fine ambassadors for Christianity. Perhaps you could adjust your style and become an ambassador for Islam, instead of presenting your message in a way that some see as misogynistic and racist. Go well.
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Post #95
I no longer read some people's posts. When they consistently show they are completely unwilling to think for themselves, and post vile and anti factual nonsense, I put them on 'ignore.' But I feel an obligation to inform them that when they use their religion as justification for their bile, they do that religion a great disservice.
Re: Racism
Post #96[Replying to post 92 by Neatras]
Well,
I checked the link i provided to you and saw you or others haven't yet replied there any comment that it shows there isn't any answer about that and i've been sure that those connections are true while one comment any opposite reply there.
Well,
I checked the link i provided to you and saw you or others haven't yet replied there any comment that it shows there isn't any answer about that and i've been sure that those connections are true while one comment any opposite reply there.
I assume your beliefs are the better! Well, be soldier of God and convert me. By your own reasonings also tell me my wrong beliefs and why..>>
Knowledge of Races =/= Racism nor Sexism
Post #97Who was anti-Christianity there!? France or Britain!?marco wrote:Or perhaps a Sunni, or even a Martian. His life was endangered in Germany because of anti-Jewish feeling; he may not have practised his Jewish faith but he preserved and respected it. There would be no rational reason for him converting to Islam.
He didn't.
i knew and was guessed that my English teacher was a Christian and a member of freemasonary haha her name was Nadia Muradian too. Such as the same Nadia Murad one brought in the previous posts haha..also wrote:Perhaps a female teacher, whom God has made even wiser than you, might be the best instructor, not just in learning but in human relations.Yusef wrote:
Aql[Wisdom] is a favor/gift from God! And God Has Gave one a few, Gave one the more, Gave one the more and more up to the full! And we Ahl-ul-Bayit are the same those who Has Given us the full.
Above 10years ago i dreamed i was riding in a highway by my motorcycle and i saw the highway doesn't have the end! And it returns to the beginning and people are turning stupidly.. then i decided to don't be like those stupid people and found a little alley side the highway and turned toward that and that was the Christian/Paulian district of our city, and i saw a man that covered himself with an white dresses gave me a new shoes and i saw around that landscape there was a girl then i knew that man and i cried immediately and told him o' prophet Jesus! Nd I made him worried that i knew him and he absconded toward a very nice and great palace quickly and i like a dog went toward him fast and like a dog i was decided get his foot haha but he sometimes saw me and told me: wait... wait.. but i cryingly did run toward him with fewer than 10cm distance we passed all above 100 stairs of the palace till arrived at the door/port of the palace then I saw soooo much lights within/inside that and be happy then I woke up...
After some years i went to an institute that was the same landscapes with the same walls and the same girl who was been my teacher and we didn't get marry together and she got and i haven't yet
Because according to the dream interpretation, new shoes is marriage.
That times i wasn't religious and had depression so much because it was the priode that now i was migrated from foolishness to be religious.
nope....also wrote:There are many here who are fine ambassadors for Christianity. Perhaps you could adjust your style and become an ambassador for Islam,
I don't see one who be ambassador for Christianity but i see many of those who worship Paul instead of worshipping Yahweh that we Shi'a-Muslims do.
...and wrote:..instead of presenting your message in a way that some see as misogynistic and racist. Go well.
- any scholar/scientist come here with reading entire this topic he will recognise that:
1. At the start point, if two people be born in the same position or be twine, if one be Male and one be Female then their morality/spirituality be the same, and one test IQ them, then the Male is the better.
2. The same Famale if grow and the Male be even grow but slower! It after years will make the Female better than the Male!- Therefore here we will choose the Female to debate
So we aren't Sexist!
- Therefore here we proved that we aren't siding Semitic
- Therefore we don't condemn those lower IQs for their stupidly
How!!? Here you are: sons of jinns who don't try to make their human's genetics conquered upon the satanic genetics viewtopic.php?p=939192#939192
Because of their foolishness - Therefore here we will choose the Female to debate
- Shi'a-Hadith
Get the Wisdom! Get the Wisdom during youthfulness! Try to be sage! Try to be sage daily... that the human is how if learn Wisdom, then after his 40year-old lifetime, his/her body will be weaker daily, but his/her Wisdom will be stronger daily! And counter. Means if one get foolishness, then after 40yearing his/her body will be weaker daily and his/her foolishness will be stronger daily! And it will be hard for him/her to change and grow.. till a position that if he/she be under ground[be died] it's the better for himself/herself to be out of ground
Why did you make sad an older of yourself that is such as your father/uncle!??
What religion do you have that teaches you the same!?
Paul taught you!?
Indeed i forgot say that the last event i exampled the old man was a 50yo Persian!
Plus i forgot told you that in the Persian we don't use plural for plural means everywhere you see i've written for example they are theft instead of they are thefths or etc..
Again
Knowledge of Races =/= Racism nor Sexism
I assume your beliefs are the better! Well, be soldier of God and convert me. By your own reasonings also tell me my wrong beliefs and why..>>
Real meaning of Rasism
Post #98[Replying to post 30 by Willum]
Well,
ref:Ali is the same Elijah in the Torah
We compare these with this Shi'a-Hadith i provide now:
How this is that a prophet such as Isa[pbuh] or Yasa'[Elisha-pbuh] who had the miracles exactly like together and sooo much greater than miracles of many other prophets, but they have lesser ranks than those others!!?
Ahaaa oowkaayy!!
We now arrived at near of a great part of the crossword and we could solve these empty tables of that and connect these parts together!
How!?
For that that God CreatED one such as prophet Jesus[pbuh] at once holy at the beginning! from a saint virgin Lady, Mary[pbuh] and his growing was fast and he had mighty of conversation when he was born and at all God CreatED him that form and a thing like Forcing..
But those other prophets were those who God CreatED them normally and theu themselves grew[spiritually] and arrived at the rank of prophethood!
I'm not sure 100% about that, and need to other quotings from other sources of sciences/religions
Help me to solve this part too..
2. The sentence "..one is ground of feet of dogs of a group.." that I use anywhere, it shows i'm the most humble servant of God!
Means i'm humble along God. Nope! the lesser
Then!?
I'm humble along the messengers of God. Nope. the lesser..
What then!?
I'm humble along those real followers of those the messengers. Nope yet!
What then!!?
I'm humble along those who follow the real followers of the messengers. Nope yet!
What then!!!?
I'm ground of feet of dogs of them even if i'm from the best Races/Countries/Cities/Tribes.. and those be from the worst Races/Countries/Cities/Tribes.
Challenging between 2 personalities that one follows Emotions and one follows Wisdom:
Knowledge of Races/Genders/Nations/History/Civilizations signifies for us that one is better than one other just IN THE START POINT! not anyway!!
Imagine you and one other can't bear any baby, then you go to the orphanage for get a baby for yourselves, one of you a baby that is Turkish/Female/from Mongolia, and you get a baby that is Persian/Male/from Germany! but after 20years we see that Turkish girl is wiser than your Persian boy who is German/Persian/Semitic/Male!! How!? Because you let him drink wine/do sins/be selfish/self center[fool]/drugs etc.. but he has taken his girl to be religious/learning sciences/culture/Taqwa/Wara' etc..
But in anyway we shouldn't debate with females because maybe satan has inspired to her brain an opinion that her opinion maybe take us to the darkness
Although many of males by their own deeds make themselves lesser than females NOT rather lesser than animals and you should be absconded versus them according to the religious commandments that i've provided them before..
At all one who is Racist, is who thinks everywhere he/she is better than others, but one who knows differences of the Races, when meets one other, tells himself that: "..shame on me who am from a great race from a great country from a great civilization and male, haven't made myself grown spiritually that this person who is from a weak race/city/Country/civilizations/gender has made herself a scientist/scholar/spiritual... shame on me... shame on me that had a fine position and didn't use my position toward wellness
Did you get my examples and convince!?
If not, this is problem from one of your own race/gender/Taqwa/Wara'/religion/country/culture/civilization....
Well,
ref:Ali is the same Elijah in the Torah
Well,Yusef wrote:Here i during my own foolish period brought these important and powerful examples!!Yusef Post 30: Wed Apr 18, 2012 08:52 pm wrote: An other important question!
The modern gospel tells us:How a Prophet of God thinks God forsaken him??This Matthew wrote:"And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, that is to say, my God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?.."[27:46]
Never a Prophet mistrusts in God.
So he wasn't Jesus(a.s), and Islam says truth that he was Yahuda AskharYuti[Judas Iscariout]
How Satan who is a God's creature, then tested Him??[Na'udoBAllah]This Matthew wrote:"...Satan tested Jesus(a.s)..."[4:1]
Well,
There found an important keyword for the Crossword here!!
The text is:
Eli, Eli, lamma sabokhtani...
Well,
As I asked you in 2012, again ask you this form:These are connected to the:
- Algorithm
â—‹ If meaning of the word 'Eli' is God;â—‹ If meaning of the 'Eli' is Elijah;
- Return back to the same 30th post of 2012
- Which one of the 2 Elijahs of the holy book he meant!!?
- 1. This Video clip i brought in the first post
2. Shi'a Hadith
...Ali has 72 names in 72 places... in Persian "Nowruz", in the Torah "Eliya", in the Gospel "Eiliya"....
3. Post 92: Fri Jul 12, 2013 3:14 pm Jesus holy spirit AliYusef wrote:The concept of tei al-ardh has its roots in the following verses of the Chapter al-Naml of the Quran:Yusef wrote:The Imam Ali(a.s.) said like:Burninglight wrote:..He[Jesus(a.s.)] said like "Before Abraham was I
am" or I am the way, the truth and
the life,
- The energy which converted the fire of Namrud to garden flowers for Abraham was I am..
- The energy within the ring of Solomon was I am..
- The energy which made the wood of Moses powerful was I am..
- The energy which was within the miracles of Jesus was I am..
- The energy which made Jesus able to conversation in childhood was I am..
- Within the miracles of Elisha, Elijah, etc.
- The Greatest Names of God which Adam used them and got forgiveness from God was I am..
* Also too many Hadiths say:
- God Created the world just for existence of Ali, and Created Ali, just for existence of Fatimah..
- Ruh-ul-Qudos[Sprit-the-Holy] is within The Prophet Muhammad and The Ahl-ul-Bayt[12 Imams] and nobody else..
- God Has seventy three The Greatest Name for His creatures. God Gave Jesus two of them; Gave Moses four, Abraham eight, Noah fifteen, and Adam twenty five of the Names of The Greatest. Then God Gave Muhammad seventy two the Names, and the one other is the Clairvoyance and it's the special for God and God Himself if Wana Give, Give somethings about sometimes of the clairvoyance to some Prophets and Imams.. And those 72 Names after the Prophet moved to Ali[the first Imam], then Hasan(2), Husayn(3), Sajjad(4), Baghir(5), Sadigh(6), Moses(7), Ridha(8), Javad(9), Hadi(10), Hasan(11), then The Mahdi(12)..
- The things of all of the Prophets including the holy wood and stone and book of Moses, the ring of Solomon, the war-coffin and book of David, the original books of Adam, Abraham, Noah, Jesus, Hezghil... and.. All of them moved to the last Prophet and the Ahl-ul-Bayt[12 Imam] and Now, those are with The Mahdi.
- The Twelver Imams were leader to anythings and anyone including humans, animals, jinns
and......
Therefore the most powerful people in the whole of the history of creations were The Muhammad and The Twelver Imams and Now is The Mahdi(a.s.)
+ The above shouldn't be the reason for us to worship anyone except God The One The Almighty The Greatest!
Once a Jew came to Ali and said "O' Ali, I accepted and believed in Muhammad the last and true prophet of God and you after the prophet"..and wrote:..and no man comes to God except through me.
then Ali asked him: "what about Jesus!??"
answered: "actually, I don't believe in him"
said: "Nope, your faith nevers useful. and you aren't a Muslim while you accept all of the Prophets Islam introduced"
And no one goes toward God except through one to one of the prophets as a link is.
According to Qur'an, all of the prophets, Imams, and even pure people might forgive peoples sins, But no directly! through intercession between God and them...and wrote:Jesus forgave
peoples sins and raised the dead. Only God can forgive sin..
Also! They aren't allow to intercede everyone who themselves want to!!
According to Islam, they're allow to use intercession just those who:
1- don't deny the day the resurrection!
2- don't deny the worshiping
3- don't live just for this world and it's pleasures
i only brought an example for Mr. Burninglight to opens his mind and realizes if his reasoning be just these things, then we Muslims can bring those same things against themselvesGoat wrote:Nope. the concept of the 'anti-Christ'Yusef wrote:about the first part, I can say "Can..and wrote:The anti Christ is one who stands in
place of Christ Jesus. Most popes
have been types of anti Christ, but
the anti Christ the son of perdition is
yet to come. He is the son of Satan
who comes in the flesh like the son
of God came in the flesh.
the Jews say: "The anti Christ is one
who stands in place of Moses the
Prophet"!!??
and the other parts of your post We
Muslims accept as you.
is alien to the Jewish faith.
Therefore, that idea would have no
meaning
— Qur'an, sura 27 (An-Naml), ayat 38-40
"Solomon said to his own men: 'Ye Chiefs! which of you can bring me the throne of Queen of Sheba before she and her envoys come to me in submission? Said an Ifrit, of the Jinns: 'I will bring it to thee before thou rise from thy council: indeed I have full strength for the purpose, and may be trusted." "Said one who had knowledge of the Book: 'I will bring it to thee within the twinkling of an eye!' Then when (Solomon) saw it placed firmly before him, he said: 'This is by the grace of my Lord!"
The phrase "twinkling of an eye" is translated to mean in a very, very short time, i.e. almost instantaneously.
Some claim that according to these verses, it is the non-prophet Asif ibn al-Birkhia who transports the throne of Queen Sheba almost instantaneously. According to them, a hadith by Imam Ja'far al-Sadiq also confirms that Solomon transports the throne by Tay al-Ard in specific.[3]
A precise definition of Tai al-Ardh has been offered by Allama Qadhi, one of the masters of Allameh Tabatabaei:
"the ceasing and termination of matter in the initial location, and its appearance and re-creation in its final location (destination)"[4]
Other explanations offered are also mystical in nature. A hadith by Imam Muhammad al-Baqir e.g. is narrated in which he attributes the aforementioned esoteric knowledge of Asif ibn Barakhia to the Asma 'ullah or the "names of God", another widely discussed topic in Islamic philosophy and mysticism and even kabbalah:
"The Almighty's greatest name has 73 letters (or parts). Asif ibn Barakhia knew only one letter of it, which enabled him to traverse the earth in the blink of an eye. We Shia Imams however possess 72 of them. And the last letter is concealed from all creation and remains a secret to only the Almighty Himself."[5]
The only Decoders of All Holy Books:
ref:Who hold the testimony of Jesus and commandments of God!?
- ◎ The All → Encoder[God] → Holy Books
☆ Holy Books → Decoders[The Prophet & 12Imams] → Hadith
○ Hadith → Detectors[Scientists/Scholars] → The All
We compare these with this Shi'a-Hadith i provide now:
- ...at the time of Ascension, the prophet[S.A.A.W.A] arrived at the first heaven and met prophet Adam[pbuh], the second heaven met the two cousins that were look like together means prophets Yahya[pbuh] and prophet Isa[pbuh], then arrived at the third heaven and met prophet Yusef[pbuh], then the fourth met prophet Edris[Enoch-pbuh], the fifth met prophet Haroun[Aaron-pbuh], the sixth met prophet Musa[pnuh], the seventh met prophet Ibrahim[pbuh]
How this is that a prophet such as Isa[pbuh] or Yasa'[Elisha-pbuh] who had the miracles exactly like together and sooo much greater than miracles of many other prophets, but they have lesser ranks than those others!!?
Ahaaa oowkaayy!!
We now arrived at near of a great part of the crossword and we could solve these empty tables of that and connect these parts together!
How!?
For that that God CreatED one such as prophet Jesus[pbuh] at once holy at the beginning! from a saint virgin Lady, Mary[pbuh] and his growing was fast and he had mighty of conversation when he was born and at all God CreatED him that form and a thing like Forcing..
But those other prophets were those who God CreatED them normally and theu themselves grew[spiritually] and arrived at the rank of prophethood!
I'm not sure 100% about that, and need to other quotings from other sources of sciences/religions
Help me to solve this part too..
2. The sentence "..one is ground of feet of dogs of a group.." that I use anywhere, it shows i'm the most humble servant of God!
Means i'm humble along God. Nope! the lesser
Then!?
I'm humble along the messengers of God. Nope. the lesser..
What then!?
I'm humble along those real followers of those the messengers. Nope yet!
What then!!?
I'm humble along those who follow the real followers of the messengers. Nope yet!
What then!!!?
I'm ground of feet of dogs of them even if i'm from the best Races/Countries/Cities/Tribes.. and those be from the worst Races/Countries/Cities/Tribes.
Challenging between 2 personalities that one follows Emotions and one follows Wisdom:
- Racist Vs Knowledge about Races
Sexist Vs Knowledge about Genders
Nationalist Vs Knowledge of Nations
Etc..
Knowledge of Races/Genders/Nations/History/Civilizations signifies for us that one is better than one other just IN THE START POINT! not anyway!!
Imagine you and one other can't bear any baby, then you go to the orphanage for get a baby for yourselves, one of you a baby that is Turkish/Female/from Mongolia, and you get a baby that is Persian/Male/from Germany! but after 20years we see that Turkish girl is wiser than your Persian boy who is German/Persian/Semitic/Male!! How!? Because you let him drink wine/do sins/be selfish/self center[fool]/drugs etc.. but he has taken his girl to be religious/learning sciences/culture/Taqwa/Wara' etc..
But in anyway we shouldn't debate with females because maybe satan has inspired to her brain an opinion that her opinion maybe take us to the darkness
Although many of males by their own deeds make themselves lesser than females NOT rather lesser than animals and you should be absconded versus them according to the religious commandments that i've provided them before..
At all one who is Racist, is who thinks everywhere he/she is better than others, but one who knows differences of the Races, when meets one other, tells himself that: "..shame on me who am from a great race from a great country from a great civilization and male, haven't made myself grown spiritually that this person who is from a weak race/city/Country/civilizations/gender has made herself a scientist/scholar/spiritual... shame on me... shame on me that had a fine position and didn't use my position toward wellness
Did you get my examples and convince!?
If not, this is problem from one of your own race/gender/Taqwa/Wara'/religion/country/culture/civilization....
I assume your beliefs are the better! Well, be soldier of God and convert me. By your own reasonings also tell me my wrong beliefs and why..>>
Army of Wisdom Vs army of Ignorance
Post #99[Replying to post 86 by Yusef]
Here you are the hadith i was decided show you about The Wisdom Vs. The Ignorance we should upgrade ourselves from any ignorance to all of the parts of Wisdom!
Also this is a great source of Shi'a-Hadiths for you seekers who enjoyed each one of them that i provided here or anywhere:
Here you are:
Here you are the hadith i was decided show you about The Wisdom Vs. The Ignorance we should upgrade ourselves from any ignorance to all of the parts of Wisdom!
Also this is a great source of Shi'a-Hadiths for you seekers who enjoyed each one of them that i provided here or anywhere:
Here you are:
- Shi'a-Hadith
14Ù€ عÙ�دَّةٌ Ù…Ù�نْ أَصْØَابÙ�نَا عَنْ Ø£ÙŽØْمَدَ بْنÙ� Ù…Ù�ØَمَّدÙ� عَنْ عَلÙ�يّÙ� بْنÙ� ØَدÙ�يدÙ� عَنْ سَمَاعَةَ بْنÙ� Ù…Ù�هْرَانَ قَالَ ÙƒÙ�نْتÙ� عÙ�نْدَ أَبÙ�ÙŠ عَبْدÙ� الله (عَلَيْهÙ� السَّلام) وَعÙ�نْدَهÙ� جَمَاعَةٌ Ù…Ù�نْ مَوَالÙ�يهÙ� Ù�َجَرَى Ø°Ù�كْرÙ� الْعَقْلÙ� وَالْجَهْلÙ� Ù�َقَالَ أَبÙ�Ùˆ عَبْدÙ� الله (عَلَيْهÙ� السَّلام) اعْرÙ�Ù�Ù�وا الْعَقْلَ وَجÙ�نْدَهÙ� وَالْجَهْلَ وَجÙ�نْدَهÙ� تَهْتَدÙ�وا قَالَ سَمَاعَةÙ� Ù�ÙŽÙ‚Ù�لْتÙ� جÙ�عÙ�لْتÙ� Ù�Ù�دَاكَ لا نَعْرÙ�Ù�Ù� Ø¥Ù�لا مَا عَرَّÙ�ْتَنَا Ù�َقَالَ أَبÙ�Ùˆ عَبْدÙ� الله (عَلَيْهÙ� السَّلام) Ø¥Ù�نَّ الله عَزَّ وَجَلَّ خَلَقَ الْعَقْلَ ÙˆÙŽÙ‡Ù�ÙˆÙŽ أَوَّلÙ� خَلْقÙ� Ù…Ù�Ù†ÙŽ الرّÙ�ÙˆØَانÙ�يّÙ�ينَ عَنْ ÙŠÙŽÙ…Ù�ينÙ� الْعَرْشÙ� Ù…Ù�نْ Ù†Ù�ورÙ�Ù‡Ù� Ù�َقَالَ Ù„ÙŽÙ‡Ù� أَدْبÙ�رْ Ù�َأَدْبَرَ Ø«Ù�مَّ قَالَ Ù„ÙŽÙ‡Ù� أَقْبÙ�لْ Ù�َأَقْبَلَ Ù�َقَالَ الله تَبَارَكَ وَتَعَالَى خَلَقْتÙ�ÙƒÙŽ خَلْقاً عَظÙ�يماً وَكَرَّمْتÙ�ÙƒÙŽ عَلَى جَمÙ�يعÙ� خَلْقÙ�ÙŠ قَالَ Ø«Ù�مَّ خَلَقَ الْجَهْلَ Ù…Ù�Ù†ÙŽ الْبَØْرÙ� الاجَاجÙ� ظÙ�لْمَانÙ�يّاً Ù�َقَالَ Ù„ÙŽÙ‡Ù� أَدْبÙ�رْ Ù�َأَدْبَرَ Ø«Ù�مَّ قَالَ Ù„ÙŽÙ‡Ù� أَقْبÙ�لْ Ù�َلَمْ ÙŠÙ�قْبÙ�لْ Ù�َقَالَ Ù„ÙŽÙ‡Ù� اسْتَكْبَرْتَ Ù�َلَعَنَهÙ� Ø«Ù�مَّ جَعَلَ Ù„Ù�لْعَقْلÙ� خَمْسَةً وَسَبْعÙ�ينَ جÙ�نْداً Ù�َلَمَّا رَأَى الْجَهْلÙ� مَا أَكْرَمَ الله بÙ�Ù‡Ù� الْعَقْلَ وَمَا أَعْطَاهÙ� أَضْمَرَ Ù„ÙŽÙ‡Ù� الْعَدَاوَةَ Ù�َقَالَ الْجَهْلÙ� يَا رَبّÙ� هَذَا خَلْقٌ Ù…Ù�ثْلÙ�ÙŠ خَلَقْتَهÙ� وَكَرَّمْتَهÙ� وَقَوَّيْتَهÙ� وَأَنَا ضÙ�دّÙ�Ù‡Ù� وَلا Ù‚Ù�وَّةَ Ù„Ù�ÙŠ بÙ�Ù‡Ù� Ù�َأَعْطÙ�Ù†Ù�ÙŠ Ù…Ù�Ù†ÙŽ الْجÙ�نْدÙ� Ù…Ù�ثْلَ مَا أَعْطَيْتَهÙ� Ù�َقَالَ نَعَمْ Ù�ÙŽØ¥Ù�نْ عَصَيْتَ بَعْدَ Ø°ÙŽÙ„Ù�ÙƒÙŽ أَخْرَجْتÙ�ÙƒÙŽ وَجÙ�نْدَكَ Ù…Ù�نْ رَØْمَتÙ�ÙŠ قَالَ قَدْ رَضÙ�يتÙ� Ù�َأَعْطَاهÙ� خَمْسَةً وَسَبْعÙ�ينَ جÙ�نْداً Ù�َكَانَ Ù…Ù�مَّا أَعْطَى الْعَقْلَ Ù…Ù�Ù†ÙŽ الْخَمْسَةÙ� وَالسَّبْعÙ�ينَ الْجÙ�نْدَ الْخَيْرÙ� ÙˆÙŽÙ‡Ù�ÙˆÙŽ وَزÙ�يرÙ� الْعَقْلÙ� وَجَعَلَ ضÙ�دَّهÙ� الشَّرَّ ÙˆÙŽÙ‡Ù�ÙˆÙŽ وَزÙ�يرÙ� الْجَهْلÙ� وَالايمَانÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهÙ� الْكÙ�Ù�ْرَ وَالتَّصْدÙ�يقÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهÙ� الْجÙ�ØÙ�ودَ وَالرَّجَاءÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهÙ� الْقÙ�Ù†Ù�وطَ وَالْعَدْلÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهÙ� الْجَوْرَ وَالرّÙ�ضَا وَضÙ�دَّهÙ� السّÙ�خْطَ وَالشّÙ�كْرÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهÙ� الْكÙ�Ù�ْرَانَ وَالطَّمَعÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهÙ� الْيَأْسَ وَالتَّوَكّÙ�Ù„Ù� وَضÙ�دَّهÙ� الْØÙ�رْصَ وَالرَّأْÙ�ÙŽØ©Ù� وَضÙ�دَّهَا الْقَسْوَةَ وَالرَّØْمَةÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهَا الْغَضَبَ وَالْعÙ�لْمÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهÙ� الْجَهْلَ وَالْÙ�َهْمÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهÙ� الْØÙ�مْقَ وَالْعÙ�Ù�Ù‘ÙŽØ©Ù� وَضÙ�دَّهَا التَّهَتّÙ�ÙƒÙŽ وَالزّÙ�هْدÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهÙ� الرَّغْبَةَ وَالرّÙ�Ù�ْقÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهÙ� الْخÙ�رْقَ وَالرَّهْبَةÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهÙ� الْجÙ�رْأَةَ وَالتَّوَاضÙ�عÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهÙ� الْكÙ�بْرَ وَالتّÙ�ؤَدَةÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهَا التَّسَرّÙ�عَ وَالْØÙ�لْمÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهَا السَّÙ�ÙŽÙ‡ÙŽ وَالصَّمْتÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهÙ� الْهَذَرَ وَالاسْتÙ�سْلامÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهÙ� الاسْتÙ�كْبَارَ وَالتَّسْلÙ�يمÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهÙ� الشَّكَّ وَالصَّبْرÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهÙ� الْجَزَعَ وَالصَّÙ�Ù’ØÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهÙ� الانْتÙ�قَامَ وَالْغÙ�Ù†ÙŽÙ‰ وَضÙ�دَّهÙ� الْÙ�َقْرَ وَالتَّذَكّÙ�رÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهÙ� السَّهْوَ وَالْØÙ�Ù�ْظÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهÙ� النّÙ�سْيَانَ وَالتَّعَطّÙ�Ù�Ù� وَضÙ�دَّهÙ� الْقَطÙ�يعَةَ وَالْقÙ�Ù†Ù�وعÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهÙ� الْØÙ�رْصَ وَالْمÙ�ؤَاسَاةÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهَا الْمَنْعَ وَالْمَوَدَّةÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهَا الْعَدَاوَةَ وَالْوَÙ�َاءÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهÙ� الْغَدْرَ وَالطَّاعَةÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهَا الْمَعْصÙ�ÙŠÙŽØ©ÙŽ وَالْخÙ�ضÙ�وعÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهÙ� التَّطَاوÙ�Ù„ÙŽ وَالسَّلامَةÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهَا الْبَلاءَ وَالْØÙ�بّÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهÙ� الْبÙ�غْضَ وَالصّÙ�دْقÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهÙ� الْكَذÙ�بَ وَالْØَقّÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهÙ� الْبَاطÙ�Ù„ÙŽ وَالامَانَةÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهَا الْخÙ�يَانَةَ وَالاخْلاصÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهÙ� الشَّوْبَ وَالشَّهَامَةÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهَا الْبَلادَةَ وَالْÙ�َهْمÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهÙ� الْغَبَاوَةَ وَالْمَعْرÙ�Ù�ÙŽØ©Ù� وَضÙ�دَّهَا الانْكَارَ وَالْمÙ�دَارَاةÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهَا الْمÙ�كَاشَÙ�ÙŽØ©ÙŽ وَسَلامَةÙ� الْغَيْبÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهَا الْمÙ�مَاكَرَةَ وَالْكÙ�تْمَانÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهÙ� الاÙ�ْشَاءَ وَالصَّلاةÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهَا الاضَاعَةَ وَالصَّوْمÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهÙ� الاÙ�ْطَارَ وَالْجÙ�هَادÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهÙ� النّÙ�ÙƒÙ�ولَ وَالْØَجّÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهÙ� نَبْذَ الْمÙ�يثَاقÙ� وَصَوْنÙ� الْØَدÙ�يثÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهÙ� النَّمÙ�يمَةَ وَبÙ�رّÙ� الْوَالÙ�دَيْنÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهÙ� الْعÙ�Ù‚Ù�وقَ وَالْØÙŽÙ‚Ù�يقَةÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهَا الرّÙ�يَاءَ وَالْمَعْرÙ�ÙˆÙ�Ù� وَضÙ�دَّهÙ� الْمÙ�نْكَرَ وَالسَّتْرÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهÙ� التَّبَرّÙ�جَ وَالتَّقÙ�يَّةÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهَا الاذَاعَةَ وَالانْصَاÙ�Ù� وَضÙ�دَّهÙ� الْØÙŽÙ…Ù�يَّةَ وَالتَّهْيÙ�ئَةÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهَا الْبَغْيَ وَالنَّظَاÙ�ÙŽØ©Ù� وَضÙ�دَّهَا الْقَذَرَ وَالْØَيَاءÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهَا الْجَلَعَ وَالْقَصْدÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهÙ� الْعÙ�دْوَانَ وَالرَّاØÙŽØ©Ù� وَضÙ�دَّهَا التَّعَبَ وَالسّÙ�Ù‡Ù�ولَةÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهَا الصّÙ�عÙ�وبَةَ وَالْبَرَكَةÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهَا الْمَØْقَ وَالْعَاÙ�Ù�ÙŠÙŽØ©Ù� وَضÙ�دَّهَا الْبَلاءَ وَالْقَوَامÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهÙ� الْمÙ�كَاثَرَةَ وَالْØÙ�كْمَةÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهَا الْهَوَاءَ وَالْوَقَارÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهÙ� الْخÙ�Ù�Ù‘ÙŽØ©ÙŽ وَالسَّعَادَةÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهَا الشَّقَاوَةَ وَالتَّوْبَةÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهَا الاصْرَارَ وَالاسْتÙ�غْÙ�َارÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهÙ� الاغْتÙ�رَارَ وَالْمÙ�ØَاÙ�َظَةÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهَا التَّهَاوÙ�Ù†ÙŽ وَالدّÙ�عَاءÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهÙ� الاسْتÙ�نْكَاÙ�ÙŽ وَالنَّشَاطÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهÙ� الْكَسَلَ وَالْÙ�َرَØÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهÙ� الْØَزَنَ وَالالْÙ�ÙŽØ©Ù� وَضÙ�دَّهَا الْÙ�Ù�رْقَةَ وَالسَّخَاءÙ� وَضÙ�دَّهÙ� الْبÙ�خْلَ Ù�َلا تَجْتَمÙ�عÙ� Ù‡ÙŽØ°Ù�Ù‡Ù� الْخÙ�صَالÙ� ÙƒÙ�لّÙ�هَا Ù…Ù�نْ أَجْنَادÙ� الْعَقْلÙ� Ø¥Ù�لا Ù�Ù�ÙŠ نَبÙ�يّÙ� أَوْ وَصÙ�يّÙ� نَبÙ�يّÙ� أَوْ Ù…Ù�ؤْمÙ�Ù†Ù� قَدÙ� امْتَØÙŽÙ†ÙŽ الله قَلْبَهÙ� Ù„Ù�لايمَانÙ� وَأَمَّا سَائÙ�رÙ� Ø°ÙŽÙ„Ù�ÙƒÙŽ Ù…Ù�نْ مَوَالÙ�ينَا Ù�ÙŽØ¥Ù�نَّ Ø£ÙŽØَدَهÙ�مْ لا يَخْلÙ�Ùˆ Ù…Ù�نْ أَنْ ÙŠÙŽÙƒÙ�ونَ Ù�Ù�يهÙ� بَعْضÙ� Ù‡ÙŽØ°Ù�Ù‡Ù� الْجÙ�Ù†Ù�ودÙ� Øَتَّى يَسْتَكْمÙ�Ù„ÙŽ وَيَنْقَى Ù…Ù�نْ جÙ�Ù†Ù�ودÙ� الْجَهْلÙ� Ù�َعÙ�نْدَ Ø°ÙŽÙ„Ù�ÙƒÙŽ ÙŠÙŽÙƒÙ�ونÙ� Ù�Ù�ÙŠ الدَّرَجَةÙ� الْعÙ�لْيَا مَعَ الانْبÙ�يَاءÙ� وَالاوْصÙ�يَاءÙ� ÙˆÙŽØ¥Ù�نَّمَا ÙŠÙ�دْرَكÙ� Ø°ÙŽÙ„Ù�ÙƒÙŽ بÙ�مَعْرÙ�Ù�ÙŽØ©Ù� الْعَقْلÙ� وَجÙ�Ù†Ù�ودÙ�Ù‡Ù� وَبÙ�Ù…Ù�جَانَبَةÙ� الْجَهْلÙ� وَجÙ�Ù†Ù�ودÙ�Ù‡Ù� ÙˆÙŽÙ�َّقَنَا الله ÙˆÙŽØ¥Ù�يَّاكÙ�مْ Ù„Ù�طَاعَتÙ�Ù‡Ù� وَمَرْضَاتÙ�Ù‡Ù�.
14. A number of our people has narrated from Ahmad ibn Muhammad from Ali ibn Hadid from Suma’a ibn Mihran who has said the following.
“With a gathering of his followers I was in the presence of Imam abu ‘Abdallah (a.s). A discussion on intelligence and ignorance began to emerge among them. Thereupon Imam abu ‘Abdallah said, “You, first, must recognize intelligence and its army and ignorance and its army only then you would find proper guidance.� I then asked, may Allah make my soul of service to you, we only learn what you teach us.� The Imam (a.s) said, “Allah, the Glorious, the Majestic created intelligence and it was the first creature of spiritual world on the right side of the Throne from His light. He then told him to move backwards and intelligence moved backwards. He then told him to come forwards. Intelligence came forwards. Allah, the Sacrosanct, the Most High said, “I have created you a great creature and honored you above all others of my creatures. The Imam (a.s) continued, “Allah then created ignorance from a salty dark ocean and told it, “move backwards and did move backwards. He then called it to come forwards but it did not come forwards. He then said to it, ‘Did you shun coming forwards?� He then pronounced it condemned. He then assigned seventy-five armies for intelligence. When ignorance saw all the honors Allah has granted to intelligence it bore hidden animosity towards intelligence and said, “Lord this creature is just like me. You created and honored it and gave it power. But I have no power against it. Give me also likewise armies. The Lord then said, “I will give you also an army but if you would disobey Me I will then expel you and your army from My mercy. Ignorance then said, ‘I agree.’ Allah gave it seventy-five armies and it was out of the army of intelligence.
The Army of Intelligence The Army of Ignorance
1 Goodness is the minister of Intelligence Evil is the minister of Ignorance
2 Faith Disbelief
3 Professing Refusal
4 Hope Despair
5 Justice Injustice
6 Consent Disapproval
7 Thankfulness Ungratefulness
8 Expectation Hopelessness
9 Reliance Greed
10 Soft-heartedness Hard-heartedness
11 Mercy Anger
12 Knowledge Ignorance
13 Understanding Foolishness
14 Chastity Reckless
15 Restraint Yearning
16 Relenting Relentless
17 Cautious Boldness
18 Humbleness Arrogance
19 Relax Haste
20 Forbearance Silliness
21 Quietness Bluffing
22 Peacefulness Contempt
23 Acceptance Doubt
24 Patience Impatience
25 Forgiving Revenge
26 Self-reliance Poverty
27 Remembrance Forgetfulness
28 Sympathy Detachment
29 Self-content Covetousness
30 Munificent Avaricious
31 Affection Animosity
32 Loyalty Infidelity
33 Obedience Disobedience
34 Subservience Supremacy
35 Security Affliction
36 Love Hatred
37 Truthfulness Duplicity
38 Truth Falsehood
39 Trustworthiness Treachery
40 Sincerity Distortion
41 Sharp witted Feeble-mindedness
42 Comprehension Simple-mindedness
43 Cognizance Refusal
44 Safekeeping feel evil satisfaction
45 Security unseen Intemperance
46 Protective Unmasking
47 Prayer Loosing
48 Fasting Consuming food
49 Hard work Passivity
50 Hajj Disregard of covenant
51 Soundness of words Scandalous
52 Kindness to parents Rudeness to parents
53 Factual Braggart
54 Legitimate Wickedness
55 Guarded Bedecked
56 Concealment Hatching
57 Fairness Taking-sides
58 Peaceable Rebelliousness
59 Cleanliness Filthiness
60 Bashfulness Ill-mannered
61 Impartiality Aggressive
62 Comfort Exhaustion
63 Ease Hardships
64 Blessedness Lack of blessings
65 Tranquility Suffering
66 Stability Aggrandizing
67 Wisdom Desires
68 Dignity Meanness
69 Fortunateness Unfortunateliness
70 Repentance Persistence
71 Seeking forgiveness Keeping pride
72 Conservitiveness Heedlessness
73 Invoking Withholding
74 Vitality Lethargic
75 Happiness Sorrow
Friendliness Aversion
Generosity Stinginess
No one other than a prophet or his successor or a true believer the strength of whose faith Allah has already tested can have the whole army of intelligence with all such characteristics. However, some of our followers and friends may acquire some of such characteristics so that they may reach perfection and repulse the army of ignorance and purify themselves from evil. In such case they also will step at the high degree and level of the prophets and the successors of the prophets. This progress can only be made after knowing, with certainty, intelligence and its army and ignorance and its army. May Allah provide us and you the opportunity to obey Him and work to please Him.
Source: http://alhassanain.org/m/english/?com=book&id=1015
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No, he does not say anything of the sort that can be read as "quite clearly".Bust Nak wrote: He says quite clearly that the differences between the races were unimportant and just skin deep.
Steven Rose wrote:Darwin was, after all, a man of his time, class and society. True, he was committed to a monogenic, rather than the prevailing polygenic, view of human origins, but he still divided humanity into distinct races according to differences in skin, eye or hair colour. He was also convinced that evolution was progressive, and that the white races—especially the Europeans—were evolutionarily more advanced than the black races, thus establishing race differences and a racial hierarchy.
He is not a racist, but in the video (that you did not find to be controversial) Sam did say 'that intelligence is in a large measure due to his or her genes...genes appear to be about 50 - 80% of the story'. This would be considered racist by many on the far left.Bust Nak wrote: Nothing Sam Harris said is controversial. Is he racist?