Lets say you had a terminal illness. And you suffered the aches and pains of it. Then i came and told you i had a deal to offer you.. That you could live forever ...never die... never get sick... never grow old. But there is one catch. You have to endure five or six hours of excrutiating pain before you die. After which you spend three days in paradise. After that you are alive forever.
WOULD YOU TAKE THAT DEAL?
I would
Only a fool would turn down a deal like this.
JESUS SACRIFICED? WHAT DID HE SACRIFICE?
HE GOT THE DEAL OF A LIFETIME
WOULD YOU TAKE THIS DEAL?
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Post #11Your claim is incomprehensible. In any case, this is what was reportedly said:JehovahsWitness wrote: [Replying to post 8 by brianbbs67]
Jesus said "The Law and the Prophets were until John" so the preaching of Jesus and John the baptist things signaled the start of a change to people relationship to God. The pharisees and those like them cling to the old because the dont appreciate the new.
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Post #12Yes I eat bacon, but its beef or lamb. Christians should base their beliefs upon Torah for that is truth. That was Joshua's(Jesus ) whole message. Get rid of tradition which negated the law. He never called for an end or said it was negated/ended. Even after death...Avoice wrote: [Replying to post 8 by brianbbs67]
Enter Greece. Enter Rome. Haaaaaa
Yeah, here comes the God with three heads. One head mankind has the power to kill.
Christianity is not based on Torah. Not even about what Jesus taught. Its Pauline doctrine. They obey some guy from Tarsus who died 2000 years ago. You get to eat bacon and not feel like a shmuk.
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Post #13[Replying to post 6 by Avoice]
Intriguing.... hope the odds are good (I was never good at gambling)
YeahYou are goings to die.
God offers you a deal:
Intriguing.... hope the odds are good (I was never good at gambling)
Not goodSuffer a few hours of excrutiating pain.
Better better....In exchange you spend three days in paradise.
Hmmm.....not sure about that one. guess it depends on where you're living during this 'forever'. Who are your neighbors? Can you do whatever you want or do you have to placate a supreme being for, well...ever?After that you live forever.
Not sure it is but I guess it depends on where and with whom you spend eternityHow is that a sacrIfice?
More like for an eternity...You won the lottery of a lifetime.
Do we?You will have what we all desire: ETERNAL LIFE.
Ok.......JESUS DIDN'T LOSE ANYTHING. just the opposite: He got everything. He sacrificed nothing. N-O-T-H-I-N-G
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Post #14I read my Bible daily.Avoice wrote: [Replying to post 4 by 2timothy316]
Better reread your bible.
Jesus didn't cone to do HIS will. And the words he speaks are NOT his.
He didn't come because HE wanted to come.
"But for the world to know that I love the Father, I am doing just as the Father has commanded me to do." (John 14:31)
"The things I was fond of were with the sons of men.� (Prov. 8:30, 31)
"No one has love greater than this, that someone should surrender his life in behalf of his friends." John 15:13
“For God loved the world" John 3:16
“He that has seen me has seen the Father also.� (John 14:5-9)
These are the reasons Jesus came to Earth. Along with his love for his Father, John 15:13 says that Jesus died because he loves his friends and showed his love for both Father and friend through his death. So, "He didn't come because HE wanted to come." is scripturally false. Jesus is like his Father Jehovah, they both love mankind and both voluteered to save mankind. Neither one had to do anything. Never is Jesus said to have been unwilling but always willing.
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Post #15[Replying to post 10 by JehovahsWitness]
Appreciate the new? Two questions:
Why do you like the new?
Whats wrong with the 'old?'
Appreciate the new? Two questions:
Why do you like the new?
Whats wrong with the 'old?'
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Post #16[Replying to Avoice]
Interestingly modern Jews has nothing to do with the new nor with the old, since they don't have temple, priesthood, they don't have the genealogies, they can't redistribute the land to their original families, they don't have prophets speaking in the name of God (since more than 4 centuries before Jesus was born), they don't have a davidic King, they don't follow the whole Law of Moses, and so.
So, tell me Avoice: how is it being a modern Jew?
Interestingly modern Jews has nothing to do with the new nor with the old, since they don't have temple, priesthood, they don't have the genealogies, they can't redistribute the land to their original families, they don't have prophets speaking in the name of God (since more than 4 centuries before Jesus was born), they don't have a davidic King, they don't follow the whole Law of Moses, and so.
So, tell me Avoice: how is it being a modern Jew?