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Willum
Subject: Re: Who is Jewish?
[Replying to post 2 by cnorman19]

I guess this is a continuation: If being Jewish is as you declare, "52 pick-up," then is how is it different from being nothing at all? Or, perhaps I mean arbitrary?

Very confusing topic, this.

Avoice
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[Replying to post 5 by koko]

Sorry to hear of the forced conversions

koko
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duBois wrote:

[Replying to post 5 by koko]

Interesting. My father's family were anusim as well. Hopefully, in my view, Jewish identity is not limited to genealogy but carries some connection to Jewish values. That is my hope anyway.




Values may possibly be a factor as to whether one is truly Jewish. The Bible tells us the prime determinant is bloodline. Today we often say other factors may override this teaching. In the New Testament it is written ''let every man be persuaded in his own mind" (Romans 14). I remain mindful of the concept of refraining from undue judgment of others and will leave this issue up to the beholder.

koko
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Avoice wrote:

[Replying to post 5 by koko]

Sorry to hear of the forced conversions




Yes, the forced conversions which the Sephardic Jews endured was one of history's biggest tragedies. Many of these surviving "Marranos" moved to Northwest Africa, the Balkans-Asia Minor, or Latin America.

For those who wish to know if their ancestors were Judios they may check the following roster: http://www.sephardicgen.com/databases/SephardimCom2009.htm

koko
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[Replying to post 6 by duBois]



I do like your reply very much because of its reference to Jewish values.

Many years ago I had 2 progressive Jewish friends with whom I discussed this matter. One was an elderly lady friend and the other a man about one year older than I at that time (this was back in the mid 1970s). Both agreed that the hallmark of a "good Jew" was that you treat everyone well and help make this a better world for all by doing a good deed each and every day when/if such an opportunity presented itself. In those days among progressive Jews that I knew, many harbored this same belief. That you were born for a purpose. That your mission in life is to always do good wherever you go. That any day in which you failed to do a good deed when the opportunity came was a wasted day.

I don't know if people discuss such matters any more or if such tenets have now disappeared. But they sure are beautiful thoughts and, in all candor, it would be nice if all people thought that way.

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