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Atef
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You can't post a definitive comment, then backtrack and attempt to cite a difference over minor semantics.

You posted:
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He saw God as the origin of all that exists, but not the means by which everything came into existence. In other words, he didn't create anything."


Genesis chapters 1,2 and all the Christians I know: view God as the Creator. All the Christians I know: view Jesus as the Son of God. Your debate is not with me, it is with the Bible and Christians who view God as the Creator--and Jesus as the son of God.



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shnarkle
Subject:
Atef wrote:

You can't post a definitive comment, then backtrack and attempt to cite a difference over minor semantics.

You posted:
Quote:

He saw God as the origin of all that exists, but not the means by which everything came into existence. In other words, he didn't create anything."


Genesis chapters 1&2, as well as all the Christians I know: view God as the Creator. All the Christians I know: view Jesus as the Son of God. Your debate is not with me, it is with the Bible and Christians who view God as the Creator--and Jesus as the son of God.


Of course the debate is with Christians as well as non believers, which are the only groups you've been referencing since you chimed in. Who else would I be debating? You don't have a position other than to suggest the beliefs and ideas of others. I'm not backtracking. The New Testament authors agree that the father is God who is the origin of all that exists while Christ is the means by which all exists. Christians believe Christ is God, probably because he's eternal, yet Paul doesn't make that connection, nor does John. They see Christ as eternal, but don't equate that with God. There is no backtracking on my part.

Menotu
Subject: Re: Does the bible outlaw gay marriage for non-believers?
[Replying to post 1 by DanieltheDragon]

Does the bible outlaw gay marriage for non-believers?

Does it OK it for believers? Seems that would also be a question, no?

At any rate:
why would a non-believer of Islam care what Islam says about anything?

I doubt non-believers care what is "says" (which most anything it "says" is debatable at least).

I know I don't.

JehovahsWitness
Subject: Re: Does the bible outlaw gay marriage for non-believers?
[Replying to post 113 by Menotu]

Your right the bible doesnt provide mandate for non believers. It simply outlines the standards, requirements and law for BELIEVERS and explains the penalty for disbelief.


JEHOVAH'SWITNESS

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