I was watching a movie on TV last week (don't recall its title) in which a woman was walking around topless. For what ever reason, I happened to check the on-screen program guide description and noticed it was rated R--no surprise--but I also noted that it carried no "N" for nudity rating. Tonight I happened upon another movie The babysitters, in which one of the teen girls is bare breasted, and in checking the description of the movie I again found that while rated R, it carried no "N" designation for nudity.
In the past, bare female breasts always seemed to warrant a "N" advisory, but evidently no longer.
So my question here is: Do you think this change in the movie guides, one that no longer considers bare female breast as qualifying as nudity, a good one or not? And why?
Bare Breasts No Longer Qualify
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Please describe and support the consequences to which you refer, with trends since you seem to suggest that there has been change.Megaboomer wrote:-----yeah culture is changing and it's for the worst. people just don't understand what decency is anymore because they have become hardened to what used to be wrong.VermilionUK wrote:It's a sign of how culture is changing.
--- I've seen parents let their kids watch all kinds of nudity and violence and don't think about the consequences of it at all.
Please provide even anecdotal evidence that nudity as a public behavior has changed since the advent of television and other visual media.--- the fact is that the more you expose yourself to things that are wrong the more you become hardened to them. then you often need something more scandalous or something more provocative to peak your interest. it's an addiction cycleVermilionUK wrote:The watershed hour of 9pm is almost non-existant. There's diet programs on UK television showing full nudity several hours before the watershed. We're so exposed to sex and sex icons in today's society that we no longer find it "rude" or "shocking" to see a nudity on the screen.
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According to all research I've ever seen...healthier, more confidant children(at least regarding nudist colonies and resorts and such)McCulloch wrote:VermilionUK wrote:It's a sign of how culture is changing.I know what you mean. It is so difficult to find a good bear baiting or cockfight, but we can sometimes get to see a human mammary.Megaboomer wrote:yeah culture is changing and it's for the worst. people just don't understand what decency is anymore because they have become hardened to what used to be wrong.
What are the consequences of children witnessing nudity?Megaboomer wrote:I've seen parents let their kids watch all kinds of nudity and violence and don't think about the consequences of it at all.
"the viewing of the unclothed human body, far from being destructive to the psyche, seems to be either benign or to actually provide benefits"
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Any male (and most females) of any culture enjoys seeing a nice set of tits, whether they are a fifty-year-old Catholic priest or a fourteen-year-old Moslem. Tits are nice. They are one of the best proofs for the existence of God. If there were no tits then I'm pretty sure I wouldn't believe in God. When I die, if I go to heaven, and God doesn't have a nice rack, well then I'll demand my money back.
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Interesting that you would want a maleshakes wrote:Any male (and most females) of any culture enjoys seeing a nice set of tits, whether they are a fifty-year-old Catholic priest or a fourteen-year-old Moslem. Tits are nice. They are one of the best proofs for the existence of God. If there were no tits then I'm pretty sure I wouldn't believe in God. When I die, if I go to heaven, and God doesn't have a nice rack, well then I'll demand my money back.
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Now, I don't speak for Shakes, but the God I answer to (Typically) is a woman... And quite a beautiful one at that.Miles wrote:Interesting that you would want a maleshakes wrote:Any male (and most females) of any culture enjoys seeing a nice set of tits, whether they are a fifty-year-old Catholic priest or a fourteen-year-old Moslem. Tits are nice. They are one of the best proofs for the existence of God. If there were no tits then I'm pretty sure I wouldn't believe in God. When I die, if I go to heaven, and God doesn't have a nice rack, well then I'll demand my money back.
to have a "nice rack." But to each his own, I guess.
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We heathens venerate breasts... for the reason Shakes stated. They're awesome.
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I think that thinking nudity is bad is unhealthy and prudish and imposing that kind of thinking on children is bad for their psychological development. (Opinion)Megaboomer wrote:I've seen parents let their kids watch all kinds of nudity and violence and don't think about the consequences of it at all.
I know that thinking violence is bad is healthy and normal and teaching that to children is a good thing. (I'd go so far as to call that a fact.)
So why even put nudity and violence in the same sentence in this context?
Pornography is a different matter. But breasts. Gimme a break!
When I have kids the girls will presumably have no interest in them, the boys will have no interest until a certain age, at which point they will have lots of interest. But where's the harm?
The harm is in teaching them to think that liking looking at breasts is a bad thing. Or even a sin!
As as for the women showing their breasts, that's a different debate, but if my daughters wanted to get their jugs on on the beach, no probs. In a porno, big probs! But not anyone else's business.
Go breasts! And remember, Europe, Britain, Australia have breasts on regular TV and no-one has any problem. Society isn't falling apart. They have a healthy attitude and less hang ups.
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I agree. Well... not with the love hooters partjoeyknuccione wrote:Hooray!
I love a good pair'a hooters!
I can't understand why nakedness is so taboo on TV, or in life. I'd much rather see a naked chick than the violence that is so much more prevalent.

In the last decades, it has become more and more acceptable for girls to show skin. Skirts shortened, cleavages deepened, pierced bellies are now exposed. You only have to compare a 1920's bathing suit to what women use to sunbathe today (usually ranges from little bikinis to... nothing at all) to see that. It only seems natural that exposed breasts were the next step.
I can't think of a single good reason why covering up one's breasts should be compulsory. It's a cultural imposition, nothing more.
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And the step after that will be?It only seems natural that exposed breasts were the next step.
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1951 yale university published a study of 190 world sub groups. of those 190 from africa to australia and all inbetween. only 13 had breast as a sexual part of the body. the rest breast had no role in sexuality or sex...
a bare breast is only wrong if you believe it is a naughty bit. Why should we be ashamed of our body. Especially for christians. God made in his image, thus our body is glorious. we should be proud to show it. And it would solve problems to bare them. By removing taboos you lessen the stress. IF you seperate nudity from sexual desire then you liberate yourself from a lot of temptation. A guy in america today is tempted by a nearly nude breast because it is seen as a sexual part and the anticipation raises the desire. IF we remove the link of sex and nudity we remove the desire to see it. people don't care and then things like temptation is gone.
You can't tempt people with what they don't want. Crack isn't tempting to many people. But a really awesome car is. If we give everyone an awesome car it is no longer all that tempting... Desexualize our body, Stop making it such a taboo and it becomes less a problem...
a bare breast is only wrong if you believe it is a naughty bit. Why should we be ashamed of our body. Especially for christians. God made in his image, thus our body is glorious. we should be proud to show it. And it would solve problems to bare them. By removing taboos you lessen the stress. IF you seperate nudity from sexual desire then you liberate yourself from a lot of temptation. A guy in america today is tempted by a nearly nude breast because it is seen as a sexual part and the anticipation raises the desire. IF we remove the link of sex and nudity we remove the desire to see it. people don't care and then things like temptation is gone.
You can't tempt people with what they don't want. Crack isn't tempting to many people. But a really awesome car is. If we give everyone an awesome car it is no longer all that tempting... Desexualize our body, Stop making it such a taboo and it becomes less a problem...
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I'm not sure. Perhaps it will become socially acceptable for women to walk down the street without covering up our breasts. Or maybe full nudity will no longer be taboo for television?gabbeTroop wrote:And the step after that will be?It only seems natural that exposed breasts were the next step.
This is only speculation, obviously. Why do you ask?
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