Muhammad a prophet?

To discuss Islam topics and issues

Moderator: Moderators

User avatar
Joshua Patrick
Apprentice
Posts: 152
Joined: Wed Jun 16, 2010 3:42 pm
Location: Ireland

Muhammad a prophet?

Post #1

Post by Joshua Patrick »

The technical term used by Muslim scholars to designate a miracle that confirms prophethood is "mudjiza.

To qualify iy needs to be;

1) an act of God that cannot be done by any creature.
2)Contrary to the things the customary course of things in that class.
3) aimed at proving the authenticity of that prophet
4) preceded by the announcement of a forthcoming miracle.
5) carried out in the exact manner it was announced.
6) accomplished only through the hands of the prophet.
7) in no way contrary to his prophetic claim
8) accompanied by a challenge to reduplicate it
9) by anyone present. Muslims believe that Moses, Lord Jesus, Elijah performed miracles that fulfilled these criteria.


How come Muhammad did not provide any miracles?

He was challenged to do a miracle, and he did not perform a miracle.

RightKnowledge999
Banned
Banned
Posts: 58
Joined: Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:29 pm

Re: Is The ( Qur'an ) A Continuation Of ( The Bible ) ?

Post #11

Post by RightKnowledge999 »

Murad wrote:
RightKnowledge999 wrote:Why Are The Following Prophets Mentioned And Their Life Stories Elaborated On In The ( Qur'an ; )
1. Adam --- Aadam The Qur'an 2 ; 31

2 . Abraham --- Ibrahim The Qur'an 2 ; 124

3 , Aaron --- Haaruwn The Qur'an 2 ; 248

4 . David --- Daawud The Qur'an 4 ; 163

5 . Enoch --- Idriys The Qur'an 19 ; 56

6 . Elijah --- Iliyas The Qur'an 37 ; 123 7 . Ishmael --- Ismaa'iyl The Qur'an 2 ; 125 8 . Isaac --- Ishaaq The Qur'an 2 ; 136
9 . Jesus --- Isa The Qur'an 2 ; 87

10 . Jacob --- Yaaquwb The Qur'an 4 ; 163

11 . Jonah --- Yuwnus The Qur'an 10 ; 98

12 . John --- Yahya The Qur'an 3 ; 39

13 . Joseph --- Yusuwf The Qur'an 12 ; 4

14 . Jethro --- Shuaib The Qur'an 7 ; 85

15 . Lot --- Luwt The Qur'an 21 ; 74

16 . Luqman --- Leummim The Qur'an 31 ; 12


17 . Moses --- Muwsa The Qur'an 2 ; 51

18 . Noah --- Nuwh The Qur'an 4 ; 163


19 . Saul --- Talut The Qur'an 2 ; 249 20 . Shelah --- Salih The Qur'an 7 ; 77

21 . Solomon --- Sulayman The Qur'an 27 ; 15


22 . Zechariah ---- Zakariyya The Qur'an 3 ; 37
Many of them contained inner morals; and the stories emphasized the hardships the prophets faced to spread the messege of God.
Their stories are historic in the context of the Quran.

Remember this is a debate forum; not a quiz forum.

The Ques Is The ( Qur'an ) A Continuation Of ( The Bible ) ?

question may be either a linguistic expression used to make a request for information, or else the request itself made by such an expression. This information is provided with an answer. Questions are normally put forward or asked using interrogative sentences. However they can also be formed by imperative sentences, which normally express commands: "Tell me what two plus two is"; conversely, some expressions, such as "Would you pass the salt?", have the grammatical form of questions but actually function as requests for action, not for answers, making them allofunctional. Questions have a number of uses. 'Raising a question' may guide


Main Entry: debate di-!bAt
Pronunciation: \ di-ˈb�t, dē- \
Function: noun
Date: 13th century
Results
a. athe formal discussion of a motion before a deliberative body according to the rules of parliamentary procedureb. ba regulated discussion of a proposition between two matched sides

haak123
Student
Posts: 10
Joined: Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:19 am

Re: Muhammad a prophet?

Post #12

Post by haak123 »

Joshua Patrick wrote:
How come Muhammad did not provide any miracles?

He was challenged to do a miracle, and he did not perform a miracle.
As what I understand of your post, I think that you are asking to be informed of a miracle of Prophet Muhammad - Peace be upon him - that is mentioned in the Holy Qur'an or Hadeeth ( the speech of Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him ). I can tell you some of them.

One of these miracles is the ( Splitting of Moon ), this miracle is written in the Qur'an when Allah says:
" The Hour (of Judgment) is nigh, and the moon is cleft asunder. But if they see a Sign, they turn away, and say, "This is (but) transient magic. They reject (the warning) and follow their (own) lusts but every matter has its appointed time." [ Surah 54, pg. 528]. Also, there is a speech of Prophet muhammad informing about the same miracle. you can read more about that and you will see that scientists have discover recently this phenomenon and proved it.

Another miracle is ( The Prophet's Night Journey to Jerusalem (Arabic: Israa) and Ascent to the Heavens (Arabic: Miraj), the evidence is clear in the Holy Qur'an when Allah says:
" Glory to (Allah) Who did take His servant for a Journey by night from the Sacred Mosque to the Farthest Mosque, whose precincts We did bless, in order that We might show him some of Our Signs: for He is the One Who heareth and seeth (all things)."

and also there is a long Hadeeth ( Speech of Prophet Muhammad Peace be upon him) that talks about this miracle.

thanks ....

B-O-H
Banned
Banned
Posts: 68
Joined: Sun Dec 26, 2010 5:27 pm

Post #13

Post by B-O-H »

Muhammad was a ganster, extortionist. You either loved and adored him or else you died. That is the nature of Islam. Think of Sadam Husein, and all other terrorists. THAT'S Muhammad. Islam denies God to ever have anger at Muhammad. The Christian God who is furious at the false prophet is not allowed.

User avatar
Kuan
Site Supporter
Posts: 1806
Joined: Thu Jul 15, 2010 12:21 am
Location: Rexburg, the Frozen Wasteland
Contact:

Post #14

Post by Kuan »

B-O-H wrote:Muhammad was a ganster, extortionist. You either loved and adored him or else you died. That is the nature of Islam. Think of Sadam Husein, and all other terrorists. THAT'S Muhammad. Islam denies God to ever have anger at Muhammad. The Christian God who is furious at the false prophet is not allowed.
Your judging all of Islam by the actions of a few extremists. Why dont you judge everyone else that way. Doing that only causes more problems and misunderstandings. Plus Saddam Hussein was not following Islamic teachings, he was doing what he did for political reasons and saying that it was the will of god. It was all political for him, not religous at all.
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
- Voltaire

Kung may ayaw, may dahilan. Kung may gusto, may paraan.

B-O-H
Banned
Banned
Posts: 68
Joined: Sun Dec 26, 2010 5:27 pm

Post #15

Post by B-O-H »

mormon boy51 wrote:
B-O-H wrote:Muhammad was a ganster, extortionist. You either loved and adored him or else you died. That is the nature of Islam. Think of Sadam Husein, and all other terrorists. THAT'S Muhammad. Islam denies God to ever have anger at Muhammad. The Christian God who is furious at the false prophet is not allowed.
Your judging all of Islam by the actions of a few extremists. Why dont you judge everyone else that way. Doing that only causes more problems and misunderstandings. Plus Saddam Hussein was not following Islamic teachings, he was doing what he did for political reasons and saying that it was the will of god. It was all political for him, not religous at all.
Sadam is a perfect example of the nature Islam. Warring, dictating, and cover-ups. Muhammad and his Koran paved the way for Sadam. Muhammad was just as much the murdering, extortionist as Sadam was. Like the Nazis were towards Hitler, all those terrorists are to Muhammad.

B-O-H
Banned
Banned
Posts: 68
Joined: Sun Dec 26, 2010 5:27 pm

Post #16

Post by B-O-H »

mormon boy51 wrote:
B-O-H wrote:Muhammad was a ganster, extortionist. You either loved and adored him or else you died. That is the nature of Islam. Think of Sadam Husein, and all other terrorists. THAT'S Muhammad. Islam denies God to ever have anger at Muhammad. The Christian God who is furious at the false prophet is not allowed.
Your judging all of Islam by the actions of a few extremists. Why dont you judge everyone else that way. Doing that only causes more problems and misunderstandings. Plus Saddam Hussein was not following Islamic teachings, he was doing what he did for political reasons and saying that it was the will of god. It was all political for him, not religous at all.
You're judging Muhammad as a Prophet and give him all the credit in the world, while the Koran makes it clear he was not at all worthy of your accolades and cover-ups. He was responsible for 1000's of Jewish deaths, killing, looting, sex slave raping. And a pedophile. It's all there, but you still cast your vote for that monster, and shamelessly cast away every other religion, or any solid evidence that exposes him as he truly was. All of Muhammad's countless victims go without justice. They are all thrown in the Lake of Fire as they are forbidden any compassion. Islam is digusting.

User avatar
flitzerbiest
Sage
Posts: 781
Joined: Thu Oct 28, 2010 1:21 pm

Post #17

Post by flitzerbiest »

B-O-H wrote:You're judging Muhammad as a Prophet and give him all the credit in the world, while the Koran makes it clear he was not at all worthy of your accolades and cover-ups. He was responsible for 1000's of Jewish deaths, killing, looting, sex slave raping. And a pedophile. It's all there, but you still cast your vote for that monster, and shamelessly cast away every other religion, or any solid evidence that exposes him as he truly was. All of Muhammad's countless victims go without justice. They are all thrown in the Lake of Fire as they are forbidden any compassion. Islam is digusting.
Lustfully claiming that some people are beyond compassion is disgusting. Launching an anti-Islamic tirade in an Islam forum is disgusting. Proclaiming a holier vision while declaring the damnation of others is disgusting.

User avatar
Kuan
Site Supporter
Posts: 1806
Joined: Thu Jul 15, 2010 12:21 am
Location: Rexburg, the Frozen Wasteland
Contact:

Post #18

Post by Kuan »

B-O-H wrote:
mormon boy51 wrote:
B-O-H wrote:Muhammad was a ganster, extortionist. You either loved and adored him or else you died. That is the nature of Islam. Think of Sadam Husein, and all other terrorists. THAT'S Muhammad. Islam denies God to ever have anger at Muhammad. The Christian God who is furious at the false prophet is not allowed.
Your judging all of Islam by the actions of a few extremists. Why dont you judge everyone else that way. Doing that only causes more problems and misunderstandings. Plus Saddam Hussein was not following Islamic teachings, he was doing what he did for political reasons and saying that it was the will of god. It was all political for him, not religous at all.
You're judging Muhammad as a Prophet and give him all the credit in the world, while the Koran makes it clear he was not at all worthy of your accolades and cover-ups. He was responsible for 1000's of Jewish deaths, killing, looting, sex slave raping. And a pedophile. It's all there, but you still cast your vote for that monster, and shamelessly cast away every other religion, or any solid evidence that exposes him as he truly was.
I dont deny that he was a monster by todays standards, but back then he was completley normal.
All of Muhammad's countless victims go without justice. They are all thrown in the Lake of Fire as they are forbidden any compassion. Islam is digusting.
Sorry but you still need to prove that hell exists before claiming the muhammad is a monster.
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
- Voltaire

Kung may ayaw, may dahilan. Kung may gusto, may paraan.

B-O-H
Banned
Banned
Posts: 68
Joined: Sun Dec 26, 2010 5:27 pm

Post #19

Post by B-O-H »

flitzerbiest wrote:
B-O-H wrote:You're judging Muhammad as a Prophet and give him all the credit in the world, while the Koran makes it clear he was not at all worthy of your accolades and cover-ups. He was responsible for 1000's of Jewish deaths, killing, looting, sex slave raping. And a pedophile. It's all there, but you still cast your vote for that monster, and shamelessly cast away every other religion, or any solid evidence that exposes him as he truly was. All of Muhammad's countless victims go without justice. They are all thrown in the Lake of Fire as they are forbidden any compassion. Islam is digusting.
Lustfully claiming that some people are beyond compassion is disgusting. Launching an anti-Islamic tirade in an Islam forum is disgusting. Proclaiming a holier vision while declaring the damnation of others is disgusting.
What compassion does anyone in Islam have for all Muhammad's victims? Much less compassion for Jesus, and God himself? Muhammad's antics ensures NONE of his followers have compassion for, or have faith in the one true God. Muhammad lied to gain the love of the world in the place of, and INSTEAD of God. THe only good thing to come out of Islam is that, in the future, Muhammad will be set as the perfect example of who NOT to be. Who to turn away from, who to despise. I question the integrety of anyone who attempts to cover up for that monster. Anyone that tries to pass him off as anything but a pathetic, evil false prophet. He is the prophesized false prophet/antichrist. Islam is antichrist in nature. And it is disgusting.

User avatar
Kuan
Site Supporter
Posts: 1806
Joined: Thu Jul 15, 2010 12:21 am
Location: Rexburg, the Frozen Wasteland
Contact:

Post #20

Post by Kuan »

B-O-H wrote:
flitzerbiest wrote:
B-O-H wrote:You're judging Muhammad as a Prophet and give him all the credit in the world, while the Koran makes it clear he was not at all worthy of your accolades and cover-ups. He was responsible for 1000's of Jewish deaths, killing, looting, sex slave raping. And a pedophile. It's all there, but you still cast your vote for that monster, and shamelessly cast away every other religion, or any solid evidence that exposes him as he truly was. All of Muhammad's countless victims go without justice. They are all thrown in the Lake of Fire as they are forbidden any compassion. Islam is digusting.
Lustfully claiming that some people are beyond compassion is disgusting. Launching an anti-Islamic tirade in an Islam forum is disgusting. Proclaiming a holier vision while declaring the damnation of others is disgusting.
What compassion does anyone in Islam have for all Muhammad's victims? Much less compassion for Jesus, and God himself? Muhammad's antics ensures NONE of his followers have compassion for, or have faith in the one true God. Muhammad lied to gain the love of the world in the place of, and INSTEAD of God. THe only good thing to come out of Islam is that, in the future, Muhammad will be set as the perfect example of who NOT to be. Who to turn away from, who to despise. I question the integrety of anyone who attempts to cover up for that monster. Anyone that tries to pass him off as anything but a pathetic, evil false prophet. He is the prophesized false prophet/antichrist. Islam is antichrist in nature. And it is disgusting.
You are entitled your own opinion but that is worthless in debate unless you can back it up with facts.
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
- Voltaire

Kung may ayaw, may dahilan. Kung may gusto, may paraan.

Post Reply