What religion and Christianity couldn't possibly understand.

[mickeymudge]

My name is Lawrence. I was directed to post a topic here so that others can learn more about my presence here. I promise to try to be at my best, but please understand that I have no place for incredulous people. The bible is so misunderstood today that it's teachings has spawned atheists, and even the weak theory of evolution.

People want so badly to understand what has happened, and what the bible means. You don't have to suffer any longer. I come equipped with over 34 years of needed knowledge of the Supernatural to understand these things, in addition to being privy to four events myself. I am not a messiah, I am not a prophet, I'm simply some poor soul that accidentally found out, that my education is paramount to understanding the bible. Simply put, without it, anyone would be unqualified to read the bible. If they do, you would most likely see things result from it like wars, family barriers, and other non agreeing events. You will also see things like overlooked events in the bible which aren't explained by society.

The only thing that I'm going to share is that the bible is NOT what mainstream society thinks that it is. My research in this matter is backed by several Doctors, Scientists, Authors, Gifted people, Researchers, and numerous others.

[Overcomer]

To: Mickey

Can you name some of the "scientists, doctors, gifted people, etc", you have studied? What are their credentials?

[Divine Insight]

As the example I explained before, studying a math test for over 55 years might lead you to believe you are an expert in the subject, but it would be best if you understood math to begin with. Your example is sure to create misunderstandings and beliefs that are incorrect, which I'm sorry to say explains today's mainstream religion.

Well, there's no need to be sorry. I have already shown that the information you've been posting on these forums has been false information.

I hope you didn't pay anyone for your current "knowledge".

By the way, you have yet another oxymoron in your claims. You claim that the Bible is filled with supernatural events, but then you claim that it all has to do with aliens. The problem is that aliens wouldn't be supernatural, they would be perfectly natural. So once again you have revealed contradictory information.

Like I say, if you paid anyone tuition to obtain this information you really should take them to court and get your money back.

I'm sure you would have no problems at all winning that case.

[mickeymudge]

As the example I explained before, studying a math test for over 55 years might lead you to believe you are an expert in the subject, but it would be best if you understood math to begin with. Your example is sure to create misunderstandings and beliefs that are incorrect, which I'm sorry to say explains today's mainstream religion.

Well, there's no need to be sorry. I have already shown that the information you've been posting on these forums has been false information.

I hope you didn't pay anyone for your current "knowledge".

By the way, you have yet another oxymoron in your claims. You claim that the Bible is filled with supernatural events, but then you claim that it all has to do with aliens. The problem is that aliens wouldn't be supernatural, they would be perfectly natural. So once again you have revealed contradictory information.

Like I say, if you paid anyone tuition to obtain this information you really should take them to court and get your money back.

I'm sure you would have no problems at all winning that case.

I haven't seen anything from you that proves I have been providing false information, in fact I have been supplying verifiable facts to the contrary.

Lets see what a definition for Supernatural looks like...

(of a manifestation or event) attributed to some force beyond scientific understanding or the laws of nature.
"a supernatural being"

I think it's pretty obvious you're wrong.

And I forgot to thank you for your ongoing compliment of me having to pay for my education. Yes it is worth a lot. Unfortunately incredulous people don't think so.


So rather than trying to dog me, and making fun of my knowledge, why don't you just prove me wrong. If I'm wrong, you can prove it right? I mean after all I can prove I'm right, why can't you prove me wrong?

[Divine Insight]

I haven't seen anything from you that proves I have been providing false information, in fact I have been supplying verifiable facts to the contrary.

You're not paying attention then.

I already pointed out that you are wrong that evolution was spawned by the bible. I don't feel a need to prove this. Anyone who has a clue about the scientific history of the theory of evolution knows full well that it wasn't spawned by the Bible. On the contrary, evolution has been held by Bible Thumpers to be as anti-biblical as anything can be.

You were clearly also wrong by claiming that the theory of evolution is "weak". Again, I don't feel a need to prove this on these forums. The only people who might believe you on that are the creationists, and you are more than welcome to engage them. They will no doubt reject your alien theory of the Bible for other reasons.

So I see no reason believe anything further you have to say since you began on a foundation of falsehoods. Anything that begins on a foundation of falsehoods isn't likely to be worth anyone's time looking into further.

[mickeymudge]

I haven't seen anything from you that proves I have been providing false information, in fact I have been supplying verifiable facts to the contrary.

You're not paying attention then.

I already pointed out that you are wrong that evolution was spawned by the bible. I don't feel a need to prove this. Anyone who has a clue about the scientific history of the theory of evolution knows full well that it wasn't spawned by the Bible. On the contrary, evolution has been held by Bible Thumpers to be as anti-biblical as anything can be.


Well what you need to understand, is that just because YOU believe in Evolution doesn't mean it's correct. The years that I debated about it on forums and learned about it, clearly tells me that people that don't accept the bible as a historical document, are certainly doing so because there are too many things about it that don't make sense. Clearly meaning, they don't understand it, so they sought an alternative view, and there is a sucker born every minute.

I think if there were events that were supernatural, someone might take the effort in trying to document it. OH WAIT, they did, it's called the bible. Just because YOU don't understand it, along with 99.9999999% of the population doesn't mean it doesn't exist, nor does it mean the events didn't happen.

Evolution has NEVER been proven. Now there are aspects of evolution that are correct, however there is NO PROOF that any species has merged or evolved from any other species. What there is, is mistaken identity. Evolutionists assume that because DNA is similar, that it means we are related. How do you not know that a creator just so happened to use similar DNA? You don't.

We know where all the species on this planet came from, that's also in the bible. So if you want to be incredulous, that's your problem.
You were clearly also wrong by claiming that the theory of evolution is "weak". Again, I don't feel a need to prove this on these forums. The only people who might believe you on that are the creationists, and you are more than welcome to engage them. They will no doubt reject your alien theory of the Bible for other reasons.

So I see no reason believe anything further you have to say since you began on a foundation of falsehoods. Anything that begins on a foundation of falsehoods isn't likely to be worth anyone's time looking into further.

[mickeymudge]

I haven't seen anything from you that proves I have been providing false information, in fact I have been supplying verifiable facts to the contrary.

You're not paying attention then.

I already pointed out that you are wrong that evolution was spawned by the bible. I don't feel a need to prove this. Anyone who has a clue about the scientific history of the theory of evolution knows full well that it wasn't spawned by the Bible. On the contrary, evolution has been held by Bible Thumpers to be as anti-biblical as anything can be.


Well what you need to understand, is that just because YOU believe in Evolution doesn't mean it's correct. The years that I debated about it on forums and learned about it, clearly tells me that people that don't accept the bible as a historical document, are certainly doing so because there are too many things about it that don't make sense. Clearly meaning, they don't understand it, so they sought an alternative view, and there is a sucker born every minute.

I think if there were events that were supernatural, someone might take the effort in trying to document it. OH WAIT, they did, it's called the bible. Just because YOU don't understand it, along with 99.9999999% of the population doesn't mean it doesn't exist, nor does it mean the events didn't happen.

Evolution has NEVER been proven. Now there are aspects of evolution that are correct, however there is NO PROOF that any species has merged or evolved from any other species. What there is, is mistaken identity. Evolutionists assume that because DNA is similar, that it means we are related. How do you not know that a creator just so happened to use similar DNA? You don't.

We know where all the species on this planet came from, that's also in the bible. So if you want to be incredulous, that's your problem.
You were clearly also wrong by claiming that the theory of evolution is "weak". Again, I don't feel a need to prove this on these forums. The only people who might believe you on that are the creationists, and you are more than welcome to engage them. They will no doubt reject your alien theory of the Bible for other reasons.

So I see no reason believe anything further you have to say since you began on a foundation of falsehoods. Anything that begins on a foundation of falsehoods isn't likely to be worth anyone's time looking into further.

I don't see why anyone would reject it, if it's as obvious as it is.
God being able to read minds, is an alien ability.
There are 34 versus in the bible pertaining to aliens.
God is seen in a vision in a space craft, I'm assuming those things are piloted by aliens.
Telepathy used in the bible in reference to the holy ghost and holy spirit, is another alien ability. The ability to perceive, as listed in the bible is another alien ability on our part. The ability to part the seas is an alien ability, putting someone to sleep is an alien ability, the listing that we once had supernatural abilities are alien abilities, being able to walk on water is an alien ability. Having highly advanced technology like an atomic bomb back in Sodom and Gomorrah, is indicative of aliens, Using DNA to control us, and disable our abilities, and make us sick, is an advanced technology, totally looking like aliens, abducting Adam and Eve and erasing their memory like in the Garden of Eden, is a Hallmark event for alien activity.

No, I think you're wrong. There's just a tad, I mean just a tad of alien in the bible.

But I didn't expect you to know all this with your 55 years of study with the bible because I know your eyes are closed. Mine are WIDE open, as you can tell.

[Divine Insight]

Well what you need to understand, is that just because YOU believe in Evolution doesn't mean it's correct.

And just because YOU don't understand it doesn't mean its wrong.

Evolution is a fact of life proven beyond any reasonable doubt. I understand how evolution works, so I can see that it's true. We even see evolution in action in bacteria, viruses, and even insects. Your denial of the proof of evolution doesn't make that proof invalid.

And besides, have you ever wondered how your aliens came to be?

I don't think you've thought your speculations through thoroughly enough.

Your ungrounded alien speculations also misses the point entirely in terms of how humans were able to breed domesticated animals, and domesticated crops. I mean, even if your alien speculations had any merit at all, evolution would still need to be part of that picture.

So clearly you haven't thought through your sci-fi thriller very deeply yet. If I were a movie producer I would already be handing your manuscript draft back to you and politely saying to you, "Surely you can do better than this. Take it home and clean it up. Come back next year and we'll take another look at it."

I mean, that's what I would do if you were presenting your story as a fictional movie script. I'm certainly not about to take your story seriously here.

Clearly you've got a NO SALE from me.

I'll leave you to the rest of the forums maybe you can find someone else who is interested in your script and won't mind the obvious contradictions.

[mickeymudge]

[Replying to Divine Insight]

Well clearly you're wrong. As I said before, the bible is prefaced as dealing with supernatural events. It doesn't take a genius to know what you need to be prepared for.

You on the other hand choose to ignore the writing, I guess I can't help you.

I don't need to sell the truth, it's the truth. It's up to the person whether or not they are up for it.

Evolution has never been proven, and it contradicts itself by claiming that adapting is part of it's system. So are we suppose to evolve, or adapt.

It's seriously such a crock.

I can see years from now when NIH or some other lab makes the correction on our disabled abilities, and we end up getting our alien powers back. Evolutionists are going to claim, hey look what evolution has been doing for us all these years. Setting us up with new powers. And totally dismissing the fact that it's already mentioned in the bible that we had them taken from us.

All the life on other planets did not come from other planets, I"m sorry man you're doing what evolutionists always do, they reach and reach and reach. At least get something that is back up with documentation like the bible. LOL.

LOL.

[Divine Insight]

At least get something that is back up with documentation like the bible. LOL.

LOL.

Well I must confess you do have some pretty funny material there. Maybe it's been my mistake all along. Here I was thinking that you have a sci-fi script to offer, when in truth you're actually offering a comedy script.

You might have something after all. That's pretty funny stuff, "At least get something that is backed up with documentation like the bible". That truly is hilarious.

Are sure you didn't steal that from some famous comedian? It sure sounds like something George Carlin might have said at some point.

[Overcomer]

Here's the thing:

If a person spends 10 years studying a topic, using reliable, intelligent, reasonable sources including information from renowned scholars and experts, that is worth more than 34 years of studying unreliable, unreasonable, invalid sources with people who don't know what they are talking about.

As Divine Insight pointed out, it isn't the amount of years that make an expert, it's the quality of their expertise.

And as Divine Insight pointed out, the Bible contains no information about evolution. In fact, it actually stands in direct opposition to evolution. Darwinian evolution is a random, purposeless, undirected process. The Bible makes it clear that God created with a distinct purpose, not randomly, not without direction. I honestly don't see how you could legitimately read any theory of evolution into the Bible.