So what would make a secular scientist believe in GOD?
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LittleNipper
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So what would make a secular scientist believe in GOD?
Post #1Presented here, so that we may have a place to start is one biochemist's (Dr, Sy Garte) journey from staunch atheist to firm believer: So, why are you a believer, or what would you need to become a believer in some Creator GOD.
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Re: So what would make a secular scientist believe in GOD?
Post #121You said I am an aitheist because I dont belive in multiple Gods, but only One, thats a flawd argument. I only need to believe in 1 God to be a theist... if you are unable to understand that... there is no point in debathing with you.Clownboat wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 12:10 pmThanks for asking!Vilferatus wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2026 3:29 pm If you are unable to demonstrate that what you believe is true and you absolve yourself of the burden of proof, then what is the purpose of your arguments? - brunumb
In post 98, you brought up faith and then made the claim that atheism doesn't make any sense.
I then demonstrated what I believed to be true by showing you that faith is a requirement in order to believe that something false is true by providing you with examples. This wasn't challenged, therefore faith remains a poor path to arriving at truths until demonstrated otherwise.
As far as your claim that atheism doesn't make any logical sense, I demonstrated that you are an atheist yourself when it comes to all competing god concepts. If you feel that atheism doesn't make any logical sense, I became curious as to why you employ so much of it.
Then I ended up having discussions with AI in place of you, the person that brought up faith and atheism!
Let me know if you have any other questions.
And you hace demonstrated nothing... you just claim stuff, create a conclusion from your own claims, and then say you demonstrated your claims...
LOL.
Lets see if you are gonna cry AI after this.
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Re: So what would make a secular scientist believe in GOD?
Post #122Readers, allow me to provide what was actually said:Vilferatus wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 2:17 pm You said I am an aitheist because I dont belive in multiple Gods, but only One, thats a flawd argument. I only need to believe in 1 God to be a theist... if you are unable to understand that... there is no point in debathing with you.
Post 101: "As far as atheism not making any sense, then I must ask why you are an atheist when it comes to every single god concept that is not your preferred one? You are practically an atheist yourself. An actual atheist just takes it one god further than you do. If atheism makes no sense, why do you have so much of it?"
As you can see, Vilferatus's complaints are ill founded and don't reflect a lack of understanding on my part.
Readers, is that all I have done, or are lies and deceit creeping into these replies?And you hace demonstrated nothing... you just claim stuff, create a conclusion from your own claims, and then say you demonstrated your claims...
Why, this one reads as human?Lets see if you are gonna cry AI after this.
What remains true is that Vilferatus is practically (see below) an atheist and that faith remains a poor path to arriving at truths.
practically
adverb
prac·ti·cal·ly ˈprak-ti-k(ə-)lē
1
: in a practical manner
look practically at the problem
2
: almost, nearly
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/practically
I'm using 2 by the way.
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I blame man for codifying those rules into a book which allowed superstitious people to perpetuate a barbaric practice. Rules that must be followed or face an invisible beings wrath. - KenRU
It is sad that in an age of freedom some people are enslaved by the nomads of old. - Marco
If you are unable to demonstrate that what you believe is true and you absolve yourself of the burden of proof, then what is the purpose of your arguments? - brunumb
I blame man for codifying those rules into a book which allowed superstitious people to perpetuate a barbaric practice. Rules that must be followed or face an invisible beings wrath. - KenRU
It is sad that in an age of freedom some people are enslaved by the nomads of old. - Marco
If you are unable to demonstrate that what you believe is true and you absolve yourself of the burden of proof, then what is the purpose of your arguments? - brunumb

