Does God have a favorit race of people?

[SanMan]

Hello Everybody,
I'm new to this forum and I’ve been doing some thinking. And I want your thoughts on this too. This is for all you people who believe in God. If you don’t really believe in God you might not want to waste your time on this stuff. You might wanna pursue something else that’s worthwhile to you. Does God favor one race over another? Hmm? That’s a good question to ask yourself. Isn’t it?
I pose this question because it’s pretty evident that there are differences in the races. This spectrum of the races ranges all the way from the Whites to the blacks. It varies greatly. Oh yes, God is a god of variety. Variety is the spice of life. Right? I think God may have done it this way not only to make life interesting but also to show his great range. Wouldn’t you say? I’m a black guy and am 48 now. This reminds me of something some white guy was telling me 15 or 20 years ago. He was telling me that all the different races had their own vibrations frequency. And that the higher the frequency the more intelligent and good looking and classier and whatever else they are. In short the better you are. Then he said that White people had the highest vibration frequency and that blacks had the lowest frequency. Now at the time I wasn’t trying to hear none of that. That was a bunch of stupidness I thought. And who the heck does he think he is. The arrogant S.O.B. Thinking he’s better than me.
Now years later after some not so great experiences and having a little time to digest things and reflect I guess I sort of agree with him a little bit. I don’t know about the vibrations bit but there is a natural difference emanating from the genes of the races I think. Like I was telling this White pastor friend of mine when I was living in Spokane, WA. If you really look all throughout history, what race of people would you say was the most blessed race of all the races? The White race. Right? They had (and still do mind you) the best of everything. And in great abundance too. They were the pioneers in everything. They also dominated the other races. Whether it be enslaving them or taking their land or what have you. So I submit to you that God does bless or favor one race of people more so than any other. And there’s also a hierarchy of the races involved too. Whites at the top. Blacks at the bottom. Now don’t get me wrong guys after looking at the big picture I think it’s a perfectly designed scenario. Now I might not be the most ecstatic person in the world about it because the role I play in this movie is not the lead role. I’m actually more akin to one of the dare I say it …ahem… bad guys. Now whenever I suggest to a black person that Whites are …and I hate to use this term… “better� than blacks and that that’s the way God designed it. They get like I was 15 or 20 years ago and just ain’t goin for it. No way. No how. I never did ask a White person that though. But I suspect I know how they’ll respond based on what I’ve seen on film interviews and also what I’ve read. But that’s just a suspicion. I really would like to get your opinions on this question though. Regardless of what race you are. So please tell everybody what you think about this and your age and what race you are. Ok?


Remember now:

1) Do you think that God has blessed or favored one race of people more than the others?
2) If so which race has he blessed more so than any other?
3) How old are you?
4) What race do you belong to?


Thanks.

[Sum1sGruj]

Whether the nations are different or not makes no difference. What I was trying to say is that Jews were oppressed, and Jesus did not condone the pagan beliefs and greed of the other nations.

However, go back to those times, commit a crime, get caught red-handed, and then you will see the supreme difference between pampered, liberal nations now and the barbaric norm then.

Way to cheaply 'refute' my statements. All you have is bias and technicalities. All the universal Christian doctrine is, is the Nicene Creed. That's it.

I debate when there is actually a debate. When someone is just being rude and making bigoted claims, I don't have to do jack except refrain from calling you blankety blank blank for doing so. And the mods would agree, I'm sure. Which means you may as well just drop the whole crap argument on the rules.
I don't even know what I'm still doing on this thread, it's a complete waste of time talking to someone who's aim is to just be ridiculous no matter what the case is anyways.

[Shermana]

I appreciate your assessment that my aim is merely to be ridiculous instead of actually disproving my claims or exegesis of the verses presented.

I assume you have no "Bias" of course in your own beliefs, neither do you go by any "technicalities", can you explain why my view does and your view doesn't? How does that "Cheaply" refute your statements exactly?

I seriously do not understand what you mean with the red-handed thing regarding why the nations of Isaiah 40:15-17's day are different than today.

So you believe that Jesus called the Canaanite woman a "dog" because of her "greed" and "paganism", that's one interpretation, but it most likely has to do with the Noahic curse and I'd say most scholars would agree this position is more scripturally sound whereas yours is 100% extrascriptural. You do not even know if this woman was a convert or not, and if Jesus was calling all Canaanites dogs collectively, what does that say about non-Christian people today in your view as opposed to Canaanites specifically? By this definition, Jesus considers all non-believers in the Torah dogs. Even when she beleived in him as Christ, he granted her wish because she accepted her place as a dog.

I am allowed to belive that "ye are gods" is literal, this is not a new view. What you are not allowed to do is devote 10 posts to personal attacks because of this view on this board.

Dismissing a request to respect the rules of evidence for your claims and not using personal attacks as a "Crap argument" would be quite offensive to the goals of meaning of this board, but that's just my guess.

[Sum1sGruj]

I am being adherent to the rules. You on the other hand, came on this thread, issued a bigoted claim and have harassed the subject all the until now.
I love how you are continuing to make statements which you think will have a moderator tend to you. It's so obvious who the culprit is and if they do not see it, then whatever. I don't really care.
You have yet to say anything that is tangible to speak much on, which makes it a crap argument when taking into account the bigoted nature of the initial claim.
It's not an insult, it's an observed fact, and you have no right to even use the word 'insult' on this thread because of your claim.

[Shermana]

I am being adherent to the rules.

I beg to differ.

You on the other hand, came on this thread, issued a bigoted claim and have harassed the subject all the until now.

My belief and Theological position is not "harassing", what do you consider harassing? I asked an explanation of two verses and you got hostile. Do you need a repost?

I love how you are continuing to make statements which you think will have a moderator tend to you.

Are you unaware you've had two strikes against you now?

It's so obvious who the culprit is and if they do not see it, then whatever. I don't really care.

The one with two strikes so far? I can tell you don't care.

You have yet to say anything that is tangible to speak much on,

If you didn't consider it "tangible" you wouldn't be spending 10 posts telling me how bad you think I am. You have yet to adequately explain why you think the nations of today are different than in the time of Isaiah 40:15-17. You have yet to explain why Jesus specifically only came for the House of israel, or why my interpretation that "ye are gods" means "ye are gods" and not just "magistrates" is wrong.

which makes it a crap argument when taking into account the bigoted nature of the initial claim.

Calling an argument bigoted is not a substitute for disproving it, neither is calling it "crap".

It's not an insult, it's an observed fact, and you have no right to even use the word 'insult' on this thread because of your claim.

But my beliefs are an insult apparently.

[Sum1sGruj]

No one is above another, and no one is favored above another who believes in Christ. It destroys your bias on those verses completely. You have misinterpreted them and warped them into making yourself of some importance over another.
That is your explanation.
Does it not avail you? Of course not, because as I said, it's a complete waste of time debating with someone who is only there to relentlessly deny and be ridiculous.

I knew it from the start because as I said, I have experience on forums. I know internet warriors when I see them. Now disprove what I just said, or practice what you preach and be done with it. Did Jesus not assume ultimate mediation and all may be saved through him? Are Jews not sinners just like anyone else? Yes or no?

[Jester]

Moderator Warning

Remove the plank from thine eye., that is something YOU must do, because you have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt with your contempt that you have such right there below the eyebrows.

Negative personal comments are opposed to the rules of both this site and civility.

Please review our Rules.

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[Jester]

Moderator Final Warning

Whatever, I;m not debating with you because you are rude and your claims are completely false and infuriating.

If you do not believe the universal Christian doctrine, then that's your loss. Just because you have ancestors that witnessed plagues and prophesy doesn't mean that any Jew today is anything more then anyone else. That is extremely asinine and doesn't even deserve debate.

You should be ashamed of yourself felling 'proud' that you mock such. It's garbage and a complete, down and dirty insult to ALL Christians.

These are all clearly personal comments, which are against the rules. If this pattern does not change, the next step will be probation.

Please review the Rules.


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[Sum1sGruj]

I don't know what the matter is with you moderators., how do I get a warning for something he said to me FIRST, and why is it that you all are spamming me with all these warnings when I am not the one making bigoted claims and implying that I am more worthy of Christianity, etc. etc.,

It makes one not put too much trust in moderation, but whatever. Now the other poster can continue this montage and fell good about doing it. He even openly admitted several times that he is proud of being infuriating to Christians because he's a., Jew? I get equated with a Canaanite dog
What crap. I'm done with this thread. I've destroyed his insulting claim anyways. He's done broken every single thing on the header of this site. Justice has been served.

[Shermana]

No one is above another, and no one is favored above another who believes in Christ. It destroys your bias on those verses completely. You have misinterpreted them and warped them into making yourself of some importance over another.
That is your explanation.
Does it not avail you? Of course not, because as I said, it's a complete waste of time debating with someone who is only there to relentlessly deny and be ridiculous.

I knew it from the start because as I said, I have experience on forums. I know internet warriors when I see them. Now disprove what I just said, or practice what you preach and be done with it. Did Jesus not assume ultimate mediation and all may be saved through him? Are Jews not sinners just like anyone else? Yes or no?

1 John 3 "He who continue to live in Sin does not know Christ" + "Sin is Lawlessness" = If you don't obey teh Law, you don't know Christ. Despite what you may claim to be "Universal Christian doctrine", it is actually "Post Roman orthodox theology" with your particular Lutheran Sole Fide belief, it's only "Universal" in the sense that its the majority and mainstream. Technically, Catholicism is "Universal" doctrine by its very name. The idea that the Jews are a unique and favored race of G-d, even after the death and ressurrection of the Jewish Moshiach who only "came for the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel", applies in the text. If you disagree with my Theology, it does not give you a right to claim I am harassing or insulting you. Otherwise, try the CARM forums instead.

The Theology you adhere to is called "Supercessionism" and "replacement Theology", which may be mainstream but is VERY offensive to Jews, but that's not a problem for you I'd imagine.

The idea of "Neither Jew nor Greek" applies to those who are obeying the Law as Christ commanded.

Even after the Canaanite woman claimed to believe in Jesus, she got her wish granted beacuse of the faith....in her place as a dog. That's the faith Jesus was referring to, that she accepted her place as a dog and Jesus as her Master. Did the Centurion have to do this? No.

I have a right to my opinion, and if it offends you, that's not my problem. If you can't answer for Isaiah 40:15-17, that's your problem. You said yourself that the difference is that yesterday's cultures were "Pagan, sinful and greedy", so that means you think modern culture is not?

As it stands, the gentiles are supposed to become GRAFTS, most Christians either ignore this part or don't know about it. Grafts means you come to us and act like us.

Of course Jews can be sinners, this is why they will "Die like men" (The word "Like" here is an indicator too!). Did you ignore the parts where it says that Israel is a "Special nation" to the Father? When they sin and turn to idols, he treats them WORSE than the other tribes, why is that? Why do they have special standards?

Deuteronomy 14:2, "For you are a holy people to The LORD your God, and the LORD has chosen you to be his treasured people from all the nations that are on the face of the earth."

Do you find that verse offensive? Or do you think that verse got "nailed to the cross"?

As well Matthew 5:17-20 says anyone who says to not obey the Least of the commandments shall be called the Least in the Kingdom. What do you suppose "the least" means?

[Fides et Veritas]

I would suggest checking out the book by Herbert W. Armstrong titled “United States and Britain in Prophecy� It will go a long way to explain what you are asking about.

The keys are understanding who the modern nations ancestors were. For example; Ancient Assyria is now modern Germany. Ancient Ephraim is now modern Britain and ancient Manasseh is the modern United States of America.
There were Twelve Tribes that comprised of the house of Israel. They split and became Israel to the north (Palestine area today and Samaria anciently) and Judah to the south. Israel was taken in captivity over one hundred years before Judah was held captive by Babylon.
The Assyrians came in an took all of the nation Israel into bondage. They never returned to their homeland again. To find them one must follow their path. Look at the promises given to them y God and find those same promises answered in history.
God promised Abraham that his descendents would be mighty and number like the stars. He promised great wealth and power to theses nations. Look for the nations that amassed the greatest wealth, had fertile farmland, booming industry, unstoppable military strength. But also look at the ones that are now loosing all of these promises.
The gift was given once. It was built on and upheld for a short time but now it is fading. Now the promises of God a waning.

It is not that God favored one race, for God is not a respecter of persons. But he did make promises to a group of men that did belong to one race. So it will appear that one race is favored. But remember as you study this out, that Aborigines in Australia are not of the exact same stock as the natives in Africa. That the Russians and Germans are not of the same stock as the French and the Israelis. So it is not fully inclusive.

Also, despite the fact that certain nations of received great blessings from God all can be saved through Jesus Christ. SO in the end the greater blessing is reserved for all and not for some. The grace of God received through repentance and baptism in the name of Christ is open to anyone that hears God's call. Anyone that sets their ways aside and embraces God's way of life can receive this powerful blessing.

I don't know about you but I think the chance to be saved is far greater than blessings of material wealth.

Oh yeah... I almost forgot!!:
1.) No I do not feel God has blessed one race over others. (parts of one race yes but with intermarriage many races are within the modern 10 tribes)
2.) It would appear that the white race has been blessed most but refer to the parenthesis above.
3.) I am 31
4.) I am white.