JESUS IS NOT GOD

[onewithhim]

I would very much like to get opinions on this subject. I'll provide several verses from the King James Version of the Bible, and I ask you to give me feed-back.


Jesus' words:

1) "Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise." (John 5:19)

2) "My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me." (John 7:16)

3) "Neither came I of myself, but he sent me." (John 8:42)

He replied, after the Pharisees accused him of making himself God:
4) "Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the SON of God?" (John 10:36)

5) "For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say....Whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak." (John 12:49,50)

6) To his Father in prayer: "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God , and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent." (John 17:3)

7) "I ascend unto my Father, and your Father, and to my God, and your God." (John 20:17)

To John in the Revelation:
8) "Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God..." (Revelation 3:12)



Do these quotations show that Jesus was NOT God?

Do YOU believe that he claimed to be God?

[myth-one.com]

[Replying to onewithhim in post #1]

There is not one verse that says Jesus is God the Son. Nor has there ever been a teaching on it anywhere in the Bible. The Jews never saw it anywhere in the entire Old Testament nor anyone in the New Testament ever taught it. The Catholics who invented this nonsense have used only about 8 verses that they have to piece together from statements that are scattered all over the New Testament. One should think if such nonsense was true and important that it would have been taught by someone. And it is not.

There's no teaching on the trinity anywhere in the Bible. No whole paragraph or chapter teaching that we should believe or confess that Jesus is God.

Is there also a verse basing the words of the OP or title of thread that says, Jesus is not God?

1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

Jesus was a man.

That verse also shows that Jesus was between God and men. How could he be between Himself and men? Obviously God and Jesus are two different Persons.

But in what way was Jesus "between" God and men?

He was a mediator between them.

[Capbook]

[Replying to onewithhim in post #1]

There is not one verse that says Jesus is God the Son. Nor has there ever been a teaching on it anywhere in the Bible. The Jews never saw it anywhere in the entire Old Testament nor anyone in the New Testament ever taught it. The Catholics who invented this nonsense have used only about 8 verses that they have to piece together from statements that are scattered all over the New Testament. One should think if such nonsense was true and important that it would have been taught by someone. And it is not.

There's no teaching on the trinity anywhere in the Bible. No whole paragraph or chapter teaching that we should believe or confess that Jesus is God.

Is there also a verse basing the words of the OP or title of thread that says, Jesus is not God?

1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

Jesus was a man.

In response to your statement I colored blue above, and for Tim 2:5.
Yes, we believe that there is one God.
We believe that Jesus is man.
What we want is, is there a verse that says "Jesus is not God"? Yes or no?

[onewithhim]

[Replying to onewithhim in post #1]

There is not one verse that says Jesus is God the Son. Nor has there ever been a teaching on it anywhere in the Bible. The Jews never saw it anywhere in the entire Old Testament nor anyone in the New Testament ever taught it. The Catholics who invented this nonsense have used only about 8 verses that they have to piece together from statements that are scattered all over the New Testament. One should think if such nonsense was true and important that it would have been taught by someone. And it is not.

There's no teaching on the trinity anywhere in the Bible. No whole paragraph or chapter teaching that we should believe or confess that Jesus is God.

Is there also a verse basing the words of the OP or title of thread that says, Jesus is not God?

1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

Jesus was a man.

In response to your statement I colored blue above, and for Tim 2:5.
Yes, we believe that there is one God.
We believe that Jesus is man.
What we want is, is there a verse that says "Jesus is not God"? Yes or no?

When the Jews accused Jesus of making himself God, he said to them plainly: "I am God's Son." (John 10:36) His rebuttal to their accusation is as good as saying "Jesus is not God."

[myth-one.com]

[Replying to onewithhim in post #1]

There is not one verse that says Jesus is God the Son. Nor has there ever been a teaching on it anywhere in the Bible. The Jews never saw it anywhere in the entire Old Testament nor anyone in the New Testament ever taught it. The Catholics who invented this nonsense have used only about 8 verses that they have to piece together from statements that are scattered all over the New Testament. One should think if such nonsense was true and important that it would have been taught by someone. And it is not.

There's no teaching on the trinity anywhere in the Bible. No whole paragraph or chapter teaching that we should believe or confess that Jesus is God.

Is there also a verse basing the words of the OP or title of thread that says, Jesus is not God?

1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

Jesus was a man.

In response to your statement I colored blue above, and for Tim 2:5.
Yes, we believe that there is one God.
We believe that Jesus is man.
What we want is, is there a verse that says "Jesus is not God"? Yes or no?

Yes, it is the verse "1 Timothy 2:5" quoted above which states that Jesus was a man.

God is a Spirit, He is not a man.

But Jesus was a man according to 1 Timothy 2:5.

Therefore, Jesus was not God.

[onewithhim]

[Replying to onewithhim in post #1]

There is not one verse that says Jesus is God the Son. Nor has there ever been a teaching on it anywhere in the Bible. The Jews never saw it anywhere in the entire Old Testament nor anyone in the New Testament ever taught it. The Catholics who invented this nonsense have used only about 8 verses that they have to piece together from statements that are scattered all over the New Testament. One should think if such nonsense was true and important that it would have been taught by someone. And it is not.

There's no teaching on the trinity anywhere in the Bible. No whole paragraph or chapter teaching that we should believe or confess that Jesus is God.

Is there also a verse basing the words of the OP or title of thread that says, Jesus is not God?

1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

Jesus was a man.

In response to your statement I colored blue above, and for Tim 2:5.
Yes, we believe that there is one God.
We believe that Jesus is man.
What we want is, is there a verse that says "Jesus is not God"? Yes or no?

Yes, it is the verse "1 Timothy 2:5" quoted above which states that Jesus was a man.

God is a Spirit, He is not a man.

But Jesus was a man according to 1 Timothy 2:5.

Therefore, Jesus was not God.

And Jesus DIED. Therefore he is not God. It is God who raised him from the dead.

[Capbook]

[Replying to onewithhim in post #1]

There is not one verse that says Jesus is God the Son. Nor has there ever been a teaching on it anywhere in the Bible. The Jews never saw it anywhere in the entire Old Testament nor anyone in the New Testament ever taught it. The Catholics who invented this nonsense have used only about 8 verses that they have to piece together from statements that are scattered all over the New Testament. One should think if such nonsense was true and important that it would have been taught by someone. And it is not.

There's no teaching on the trinity anywhere in the Bible. No whole paragraph or chapter teaching that we should believe or confess that Jesus is God.

Is there also a verse basing the words of the OP or title of thread that says, Jesus is not God?

1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

Jesus was a man.

In response to your statement I colored blue above, and for Tim 2:5.
Yes, we believe that there is one God.
We believe that Jesus is man.
What we want is, is there a verse that says "Jesus is not God"? Yes or no?

When the Jews accused Jesus of making himself God, he said to them plainly: "I am God's Son." (John 10:36) His rebuttal to their accusation is as good as saying "Jesus is not God."

Is as good? But not really the words in the OP that says, "Jesus is not God"?
Does that show that there is no verse that what the OP said.

Jhn 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

[Capbook]

[Replying to onewithhim in post #1]

There is not one verse that says Jesus is God the Son. Nor has there ever been a teaching on it anywhere in the Bible. The Jews never saw it anywhere in the entire Old Testament nor anyone in the New Testament ever taught it. The Catholics who invented this nonsense have used only about 8 verses that they have to piece together from statements that are scattered all over the New Testament. One should think if such nonsense was true and important that it would have been taught by someone. And it is not.

There's no teaching on the trinity anywhere in the Bible. No whole paragraph or chapter teaching that we should believe or confess that Jesus is God.

Is there also a verse basing the words of the OP or title of thread that says, Jesus is not God?

1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

Jesus was a man.

In response to your statement I colored blue above, and for Tim 2:5.
Yes, we believe that there is one God.
We believe that Jesus is man.
What we want is, is there a verse that says "Jesus is not God"? Yes or no?

Yes, it is the verse "1 Timothy 2:5" quoted above which states that Jesus was a man.

God is a Spirit, He is not a man.

But Jesus was a man according to 1 Timothy 2:5.

Therefore, Jesus was not God.

And Jesus DIED. Therefore he is not God. It is God who raised him from the dead.

The title of the thread is, "Jesus is not God", many will say that no exact words in the Bible that says, "Jesus is God the Son"
So I challenge you to find the exact word in the Bible that says what the OP said.

[onewithhim]

[Replying to onewithhim in post #1]

There is not one verse that says Jesus is God the Son. Nor has there ever been a teaching on it anywhere in the Bible. The Jews never saw it anywhere in the entire Old Testament nor anyone in the New Testament ever taught it. The Catholics who invented this nonsense have used only about 8 verses that they have to piece together from statements that are scattered all over the New Testament. One should think if such nonsense was true and important that it would have been taught by someone. And it is not.

There's no teaching on the trinity anywhere in the Bible. No whole paragraph or chapter teaching that we should believe or confess that Jesus is God.

Is there also a verse basing the words of the OP or title of thread that says, Jesus is not God?

1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

Jesus was a man.

In response to your statement I colored blue above, and for Tim 2:5.
Yes, we believe that there is one God.
We believe that Jesus is man.
What we want is, is there a verse that says "Jesus is not God"? Yes or no?

Yes, it is the verse "1 Timothy 2:5" quoted above which states that Jesus was a man.

God is a Spirit, He is not a man.

But Jesus was a man according to 1 Timothy 2:5.

Therefore, Jesus was not God.

And Jesus DIED. Therefore he is not God. It is God who raised him from the dead.

The title of the thread is, "Jesus is not God", many will say that no exact words in the Bible that says, "Jesus is God the Son"
So I challenge you to find the exact word in the Bible that says what the OP said.

Now I challenge YOU to tell me what "I Said I am God's Son" really means. It seems pretty clear to me.

[onewithhim]

I would very much like to get opinions on this subject. I'll provide several verses from the King James Version of the Bible, and I ask you to give me feed-back.


Jesus' words:

1) "Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise." (John 5:19)

2) "My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me." (John 7:16)

3) "Neither came I of myself, but he sent me." (John 8:42)

He replied, after the Pharisees accused him of making himself God:
4) "Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the SON of God?" (John 10:36)

5) "For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say....Whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak." (John 12:49,50)

6) To his Father in prayer: "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God , and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent." (John 17:3)

7) "I ascend unto my Father, and your Father, and to my God, and your God." (John 20:17)

To John in the Revelation:
8) "Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God..." (Revelation 3:12)



Don't these quotations show that Jesus was NOT God?

Do YOU believe that he claimed to be God?

What do those verses say about Jesus? Can anyone explain what they mean? What is your opinion?

[onewithhim]

I would very much like to get opinions on this subject. I'll provide several verses from the King James Version of the Bible, and I ask you to give me feed-back.


Jesus' words:

1) "Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise." (John 5:19)

2) "My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me." (John 7:16)

3) "Neither came I of myself, but he sent me." (John 8:42)

He replied, after the Pharisees accused him of making himself God:
4) "Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the SON of God?" (John 10:36)

5) "For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say....Whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak." (John 12:49,50)

6) To his Father in prayer: "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God , and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent." (John 17:3)

7) "I ascend unto my Father, and your Father, and to my God, and your God." (John 20:17)

To John in the Revelation:
8) "Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God..." (Revelation 3:12)



Don't these quotations show that Jesus was NOT God?

Do YOU believe that he claimed to be God?

What do those verses say about Jesus? Can anyone explain what they mean? What is your opinion?

Does it look like from these verses that Jesus claimed to be God?