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Location o Christ and his co-rulers during the millenium

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Revelation 20 verse 6 speaks of Christ ruling with others for the 1,000 years. As one if Jehovahs Witnesses I understand ...

a) Jesus will rule over humans beings (not spirits) that are NOT designated as kings
b) The subjects (those not designated as kings) will live on earth
c) Jesus will not relocate from heaven to rule from a specific location on earth but will rather be in heaven ruling over the earth.

Please share your thoughts on any or all of the points. How do you understand Revelation 20:6 as regards to
a) subjects : who ir what will he rule over?
b: location where will the subjects his rule live?
c) location where will Jesus (and his co-rulers) be situated during this rule?
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Re: Location o Christ and his co-rulers during the millenium

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myth-one.com wrote:
onewithhim wrote: [Replying to post 11 by myth-one.com]

So, myth, have you abandoned all thought concerning the original purpose for the creation of the earth and humans upon it? (Genesis 1:28 and 2:15; Psalm 115:16; Isaiah 45:18)

Do you think God changed His mind about it, or will His original purpose be fulfilled?
Genesis 1:1 wrote:In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Humans are not mentioned in this description of the original creation, as it did not involve any humans.

Humans were not created until billions of years later in the re-creation of an earth which had become void, formless, and dark:
Genesis 1:2 wrote:And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep.
For the sake of the discussion---you did not read, I would guess, the scriptures that I cited, so you really can't answer my question meaningfully. Would you please read all of them---to ascertain what God's original purpose for the earth and humans was---and then answer my question? Thanks.

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Just adding a thought:

The scripture says that ,when the end of the 1,000 years comes, then Christ "shall have delivered up the kingdom TO GOD, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power." (I Corinthians 15:24, KJV) It goes on: "And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all." (Verse 28.)

So what happens after the Millennial Reign of Christ? All we know is this:

1) YHWH, the Father (and Jesus' God) will once more be the Ruler of the Earth and He will be "all things" to everyone.

2) Jesus will continue to be in subjection to YHWH.

3) When Satan tries to draw everyone after himself at the end of the 1,000 years (Revelation 20:7,8), all people will be given the opportunity to go with him or take a stand for YHWH. The Devil and his followers will then be destroyed and those that chose to stand with God will then be able to really live, and live forever. Humans will have truly "come to life." (Rev.20:5)

4) Conditions on the earth will be as they were intended in the beginning, in the Garden of Eden. Paradise on Earth.


This is all we can say for sure. Of course YHWH has our benefit in mind and will do wonderful things for us.

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All Believers in Christ (living and dead) spend the millennium with Christ.
onewithhim wrote:So what happens after the Millennial Reign of Christ?
Following the millennium, the rest of the dead are resurrected as humans:
But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. (Revelation 20:4)
All dead Christians were resurrected at the Second Coming.

So the "rest of the dead" are all nonbelievers.

These nonbelievers then face the great white throne judgment:
And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. (Revelation 20:11-14)
Following the judgment, those whose names are not written in the Book of Life are cast into the lake of fire and suffer their second and everlasting death:
And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. (Revelation 20:11-15)
When the last human not in the Book of Life dies in the lake of fire, the age of man will be over.

At that time, there will be no more living humans.

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myth-one.com wrote:
All Believers in Christ (living and dead) spend the millennium with Christ.

All dead Christians were resurrected at the Second Coming.
Where will all belivers in Christ spend eternity?

myth-one.com wrote:
So the "rest of the dead" are all nonbelievers.

These nonbelievers then face the great white throne judgment

What will happen to the non-Christians that are favorably judged?
myth-one.com wrote:
At that time, there will be no more living humans.
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JehovahsWitness wrote:Where will all believers in Christ spend eternity?
Their home base will be the good earth.
JehovahsWitness wrote:What will happen to the non-Christians that are favorably judged?
Define what you mean by "favorably judged."

All with their names written in the Book of Life will gain salvation.

And only believers have their names in the Book of Life.

Some non-believers may desire to reject everlasting life. So that would then be favorable for them.

Others will enter the judgment and accept Jesus as their Savior during judgment. Their name will be written in the Book of Life at that time.

That's why the Book of Life is checked again after the judgment.

Billions of humans have lived without ever hearing the good news of the gospel.

They will be preached the truth of the scriptures during judgment and make their informed decision at that time.

God will accept everyone's individual personal decision to participate in or reject everlasting life.

The original angels did not have any choice in this matter.

Mankind will.

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[Replying to post 23 by myth-one.com]

myth, you still did not comment on the post where I asked you your opinion on God's original purpose for the earth. If that idea is too complex, or you don't remember what it was, read the scriptures that I cited.

Also, if there will be no humans left on the earth, in your estimation, what do the following scriptures mean?

1) Isaiah 11:6-9: "The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid;...and a little child shall lead them....They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea."

2) Psalm 37:9,11,29: "For evildoers shall be cut off; but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth. The meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace....The righteous shall inherit the land, and dwell therein FOREVER."



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onewithhim wrote:[Replying to post 23 by myth-one.com]

myth, you still did not comment on the post where I asked you your opinion on God's original purpose for the earth. If that idea is too complex, or you don't remember what it was, read the scriptures that I cited.

Also, if there will be no humans left on the earth, in your estimation, what do the following scriptures mean?
1) Isaiah 11:6-9: "The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid;...and a little child shall lead them....They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea."
Christians born again of the Spirit become spiritual children of God:
Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection. (Luke 20:36)
2) Psalm 37:9,11,29: "For evildoers shall be cut off; but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth. The meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace....The righteous shall inherit the land, and dwell therein FOREVER."
Non-believers are cut off from life, believers inherit eternal life on the earth . . .etc.

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myth-one.com wrote:
So the "rest of the dead" are all nonbelievers..These nonbelievers then face the great white throne judgment
myth-one.com wrote:All with their names written in the Book of Life will gain salvation....God will accept everyone's individual personal decision to participate in or reject everlasting life.
Where will the individuals described above spend eternity?
myth-one.com wrote:
JehovahsWitness wrote:Where will all believers in Christ spend eternity?
Their home base will be the good earth.

What do you mean by "home base", is this the same as saying "they will spend eternity on earth"? If not what is the difference?
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Re: Location o Christ and his co-rulers during the millenium

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onewithhim wrote: [Replying to post 11 by myth-one.com]

So, myth, have you abandoned all thought concerning the original purpose for the creation of the earth and humans upon it? (Genesis 1:28 and 2:15; Psalm 115:16; Isaiah 45:18)

Do you think God changed His mind about it, or will His original purpose be fulfilled?
Genesis 1:28 wrote:And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
Genesis 2:15 wrote:And the Lord God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.
Psalm 115:16 wrote:The heaven, even the heavens, are the Lord's: but the earth hath he given to the children of men.
Isaiah 45:18 wrote:For thus saith the Lord that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the Lord; and there is none else.
The earth was not created originally for mankind.

A host of angels lead by Satan were the original caretakers of the earth.

We humans are "Plan B" created in the re-creation of a decimated earth caused by the rebellion of the original caretakers.

This re-creation begins in Genesis 1:3.

Yes, mortal man was commanded to care for and replenish the earth as the above verses state.

This is as training to become everlasting spiritual beings who will replace the original angelic caretakers who rebelled against God in their first estate:
And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. (Jude 1:6)
The angels were created as immortal spiritual bodied beings.

These lower beings (mankind) must respect and believe in the Son of God as a prerequisite to becoming a spiritual being which lives forever.

Having tasted earthly life, those of mankind who choose everlasting life as earthly caretakers should be less inclined to revolt.

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Can you explain the following two scriptures?
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. (Genesis 1:1-2)
And:
And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. (Genesis 1:31)

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myth-one.com wrote: ..., those of mankind who choose everlasting life as earthly caretakers should be less inclined to revolt.

So people will be offered a choice between earthly and heavenly life and some will choose to spend eternity on earth?
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