The Beast of Revelation 13 is Mahmoud Abbas

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The Beast of Revelation 13 is Mahmoud Abbas

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The Beast of Revelation 13 is Mahmoud Abbas

The most important issue that must be resolved in discovering the meaning of
Revelation 13 is which people are being discussed. If the wrong people are
associated with the prophecies of Revelation 13 its answer can never be found.
The people being referred to in Revelation 13 are the Palestinians. Once this is
decided three questions have to be answered; why, how and who.

Why do the Palestinian people lack the ability to buy and sell?
Due to the Hamas takeover of the Palestinian Government, Western Aid was
discontinued.

How will the Palestinian people receive funds in order to buy and sell?
Through a program called the Temporary International Mechanism that bypasses
the Hamas controlled Palestinian Authority. This program was established on
Friday June 16, 2006. This date 6/16/06 represents the day that one man was
allowed to administer a program that paid the salaries of his people.
This is an
amazing coincidence. There are only three days in ten years that end with three
sixes; June 6, June 16, and June 26.

Who will provide these salaries to the Palestinians?
Western Aid was resumed through the office of Mahmoud Abbas due to the
Temporary International Mechanism.

Also, what group will be prevented from getting money because they did not
receive the mark?
Hamas.

The mark of Mahmoud Abbas was issued in the Palestinian Presidential Election
of January 2005. To prevent double voting an indelible ink mark was applied to the
right hand of all voters. Since Hamas boycotted these elections their members
never received the mark. Revelation 13:16 states that he caused all, small and
great, rich and poor, and free and bond to receive a mark in their right hand or in
their foreheads. Simply by being a candidate, Mahmoud Abbas caused his
people to receive the mark. Anyone who voted, either for him, or against him, were
there because of him.

Hamas will not honor the image of Mahmoud Abbas, therefore all salaries are
being given to Fatah, the party of Mahmoud Abbas. The image is what the
Palestinian Authority under Mahmoud Abbas represents.
This image of Abbas is required by the international community to continue peace
talks with Israel. This image is three items. These are the renunciation of terror,
the honoring of all prior Palestinian agreements, and the recognition of Israel,
which can also be expressed as the acceptance of the two-state solution based
on the 1967 borders. If these ideas are not followed, honored or worshipped;
those individuals will be killed. This is happening to Hamas daily.

I added the word worshipped here because that is the word used by the King James
Bible translators.It also means to honor.


So here is the sum of the matter. Mahmoud Abbas, in his name, was allowed to
pay his people through a program created on a date that ended in three sixes.
He was elected to his people by popular vote and caused his people to take a
mark. This mark was given to everyone, even those in Israeli jails, who voted.
Christians were always taught these basic principles, except I have linked the
number 666 with his name, while prior teaching had the mark as 666 engraved.


Lastly, why is it important these facts be stated?
It is important because prophecy written centuries ago, fulfilled in the present,
can have only one meaning. The author of that prophecy has to be God.
Also, it distinguishes between a true and a false religion. These are the two most
important issues in this writing. May your faith be stronger. The blessings of God to all
who understand. W.O.E.

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michael777 wrote:
micatala wrote: The site goat cites notes that:



One of the beast’s heads suffered a "fatal" wound from which it was miraculously healed (verse 3). The world was so astonished at this turn of events that it followed the beast. The beast was given authority to exercise his power for 42 months, during which time he was "given power to make war with the saints and to conquer them" (verse 7).
I would ask michael777 to identify what "fatal wound" Abbas has suffered, and how it was healed.

Also, note that "the world" is said to follow the beast. Certainly the whole world is not following Abbas. He barely has his own small population following him.
I was going to leave this alone. Namely, because there is so much wrong with
this theory that it would take days to unravel. In the end it is always the same.
No opinion is changed and valuable time is wasted. Nevertheless, I will comment
on your first question because you ask it with such confidence.

The fatal head wound has nothing to do with a person's head. This is a parable.
It relates back to what a head is. Revelation 17:9 defines head as a mountain.
These heads are first mentioned in Revelation 13:1. Most people stop right there
and identify Rome as a city on seven mountains, but this translation is lacking
one step to finish its meaning. Many times in the Bible the word mountain has
an alternative meaning. It can mean both a mountain range or a nation. There
are examples of this throughout the Bible. They are easy to find with a
concordance.

So the key to answering the fatal head wound is knowing what head means.
Seven heads are seven mountains and the seven mountains are seven nations.
Therefore, this beasts head is also his nation. Now that I have laid the foundation
for my answer here is the answer.
In 1967, Israel fought the six day war. When it was over they had aquired
Gaza, Jerusalem and the West Bank. This land is the beasts nation or head.
It was completely occupied by Israel, therefore the beast had a fatal head
(nation) wound. During the Oslo Accords the beasts head wound was healed.
In other words, as land was being returned to the Palestinian Authority the
beasts head (nation) was being healed. michael777
There is so much wrong with that, I don't know where to begin. I have to admit, the insantity of the end of times conspiracy people is quite amusing though.
“What do you think science is? There is nothing magical about science. It is simply a systematic way for carefully and thoroughly observing nature and using consistent logic to evaluate results. So which part of that exactly do you disagree with? Do you disagree with being thorough? Using careful observation? Being systematic? Or using consistent logic?�

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goat wrote:
There is so much wrong with that, I don't know where to begin. I have to admit, the insantity of the end of times conspiracy people is quite amusing though.
I have one last point to make. The interpretation you believe is based on a
lack of understanding parables. I could also arrive at a similar interpretation
if I read the Bible straight up like a novel, but the Bible is word replacement.
A definition is given in one place and it must be applied somewhere else. This
is why Jesus taught us in parables. The correct answer to Revelation is derived
from watching current events and some key parables.

I know you don't believe what I am saying, so like I said earlier I'm wasting
my time. Everyone wants to interpret the Bible in some sort of logical sequence,
when in actual fact it is just word replacement. michael777

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michael777 wrote:
goat wrote:
There is so much wrong with that, I don't know where to begin. I have to admit, the insantity of the end of times conspiracy people is quite amusing though.
I have one last point to make. The interpretation you believe is based on a
lack of understanding parables. I could also arrive at a similar interpretation
if I read the Bible straight up like a novel, but the Bible is word replacement.
A definition is given in one place and it must be applied somewhere else. This
is why Jesus taught us in parables. The correct answer to Revelation is derived
from watching current events and some key parables.

I know you don't believe what I am saying, so like I said earlier I'm wasting
my time. Everyone wants to interpret the Bible in some sort of logical sequence,
when in actual fact it is just word replacement. michael777
And I feel that your interpretation ignores the historical , theological and poltical environment in which revelations was written, as well as trying to read symbology into things it wasn't meant too.

And how long after abbas dies will you admit you are wrong
“What do you think science is? There is nothing magical about science. It is simply a systematic way for carefully and thoroughly observing nature and using consistent logic to evaluate results. So which part of that exactly do you disagree with? Do you disagree with being thorough? Using careful observation? Being systematic? Or using consistent logic?�

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goat wrote:
And I feel that your interpretation ignores the historical , theological and poltical environment in which revelations was written, as well as trying to read symbology into things it wasn't meant too.

And how long after abbas dies will you admit you are wrong
You still don't understand. Have you read my first post? Abbas has
already fulfilled Revelation 13. There is more written of the Beast later in
Revelation, but that is a little less distinguishable. The Beast has two meanings.
He can be the leader of Revelation 13:1 or the nations that side with him.
I prefer not to make a prediction after Revelation 13 because the Rapture will
have already occured.
So I ask what would you have me admit to? michael777

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michael777 wrote:
goat wrote:
And I feel that your interpretation ignores the historical , theological and poltical environment in which revelations was written, as well as trying to read symbology into things it wasn't meant too.

And how long after abbas dies will you admit you are wrong
You still don't understand. Have you read my first post? Abbas has
already fulfilled Revelation 13. There is more written of the Beast later in
Revelation, but that is a little less distinguishable. The Beast has two meanings.
He can be the leader of Revelation 13:1 or the nations that side with him.
I prefer not to make a prediction after Revelation 13 because the Rapture will
have already occured.
So I ask what would you have me admit to? michael777
Nonsense... with all that symbolism, 'revelation 13' has been fulfilled thousands of times.
The 'rapture' will never happen. It's a Millerite heresy, nothing more.
“What do you think science is? There is nothing magical about science. It is simply a systematic way for carefully and thoroughly observing nature and using consistent logic to evaluate results. So which part of that exactly do you disagree with? Do you disagree with being thorough? Using careful observation? Being systematic? Or using consistent logic?�

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citizenzen wrote:As a side note...

How many times will people wrongly predict the apocalypse before they give up trying?

My guess is never. No matter how many times the predictions prove wrong the apocalypse will always be just around the corner and someone will have discovered the sign of its approach.

Ah well, everyone needs a hobby.
Yep.

Hey, where is that guy with the Bible Codes? I'd love to see these guys have a conversation.... I'd pay cash money to get these guys in a room together and YouTube the results!
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Examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
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Re: The Beast of Revelation 13 is Mahmoud Abbas

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michael777 wrote: The Beast of Revelation 13 is Mahmoud Abbas

The most important issue that must be resolved in discovering the meaning of
Revelation 13 is ...
Who gives a flying fuck...

:-)
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daedalus 2.0 wrote:
michael777 wrote: The Beast of Revelation 13 is Mahmoud Abbas

The most important issue that must be resolved in discovering the meaning of
Revelation 13 is ...
Who gives a flying xxxx...

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Re: The Beast of Revelation 13 is Mahmoud Abbas

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daedalus 2.0 wrote:
michael777 wrote: The Beast of Revelation 13 is Mahmoud Abbas

The most important issue that must be resolved in discovering the meaning of
Revelation 13 is ...
Who gives a flying xxxx...

:-)
Sigh, I forget that people are serious about these things....

I mean to say:
michael777 wrote: The Beast of Revelation 13 is Mahmoud Abbas

The most important issue that must be resolved in discovering the meaning of
Revelation 13 is ...
who actually cares about these things, and why they spend time adding up numbers to equal whatever conclusion they want to from the beginning, then act as if they have discovered some incredible information.

All I see is a guy who doesn't like Mahmoud Abbas and is finding a way to justify his hatred. I wasn't aware that we are to entertain all forms of hate-speech?
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