666

[NotR]

I am sure this topic is already posted somewere... What is the number of the beast? (i will put in my view later)

[Garry Denke]

Furrowed Brow,

John's first measurement of G = 666 x 10^-10 cm^3/g-s^2 certainly was close, I agree, considering his trinity-beam Patmos torsion-balance was built in the first (1st) century. G = .0000000666 cm^3/g-s^2, yes, that is another way to write John's first measurement. Thanks!

Los Alamos said no [(brackets)] here...

G = (c^5/hbar*d)^1/2
d = c^5/hbar*G^2

DC&RF unified electro-magnetic and gravitational forces...

the electric force
F = e^2*c^3/hbar*G*e0
F = e^2*c^3/h (2*alpha)*G*e0

the magnetic force
F = hbar*c^3/e^2*G*u0
F = h (2*alpha)*c^3/e^2*G*u0

Dark Energy [(brackets)] here...

Energy = hbar [(G*d)^1/2]
Energy = h (2*alpha) [(G*d)^1/2]

A bit high brow?

Yay!

[Garry Denke]

McCulloch,

The old "Gesus" versions and old "Geses" versions I have not been able to locate on the web yet, sorry. Apparently they are not very popular versions of The Holy Bible, but they do exist and are at the Southern Methodist University library in Dallas. I will look up their full titles next time I get down that way.

Einstein's mythical rider on a beam of light makes no sense to most people so you are not alone. Also making no sense is discussing the mythical rider of the four Revelation forces: the weak force, the strong force, the electro-magnetic force, and the gravitational force; so I will not even introduce the thought.

0066-0096 rounded value:
G (cgs) = [strike]0[/strike] .666 x 10^-7 cm^3/g-s^2 (dragon)
G (cgs) = 6.66 x 10^-8 cm^3/g-s^2 (proper)
G (cgs) = 66.6 x 10^-9 cm^3/g-s^2 (books)
G (cgs) = 666. x 10^-10 cm^3/g-s^2 (beast)
...one head healed.

1789-1799 rounded value:
G (cgs) = [strike]0[/strike] .666 x 10^-7 cm^3/g-s^2 (dragon)
G (cgs) = 6.66 x 10^-8 cm^3/g-s^2 (proper)
G (cgs) = 66.6 x 10^-9 cm^3/g-s^2 (books)
G (cgs) = 666. x 10^-10 cm^3/g-s^2 (beast)
...one head healed.

1986 CODATA values
1998 CODATA values
2002 CODATA values
2006 CODATA values

1969-2006 rounded value:
G (SI) = [strike]0[/strike] .667 x 10^-10 m^3/kg-s^2 (dragon)
G (SI) = 6.67 x 10^-11 m^3/kg-s^2 (proper)
G (SI) = 66.7 x 10^-12 m^3/kg-s^2 (books)
G (SI) = 667. x 10^-13 m^3/kg-s^2 (beast)
...one head healed.

1969-2006 rounded value:
G (SI) = [strike]0[/strike] .667 x 10^-10 N-m^2/kg^2 (dragon)
G (SI) = 6.67 x 10^-11 N-m^2/kg^2 (proper)
G (SI) = 66.7 x 10^-12 N-m^2/kg^2 (books)
G (SI) = 667. x 10^-13 N-m^2/kg^2 (beast)
...one head healed.

So much fun eh?

Yay!

[Garry Denke]

Hey OMEGA

I like it short, and to the point.

Energy = e^2*z0*[(G*d)^1/2] ...... (impedance)
Energy = e^2*[(G*d)^1/2]/e0*c ... (electric)
Energy = e^2*u0*c*[(G*d)^1/2] ... (magnetic)

Why is G*d everywhere?

E = dark energy
e = elementary charge
z0 = impedance of vacuum
G = gravitational constant
d = dark matter density
e0 = electric constant
c = speed of light in vacuum
u0 = magnetic constant

Thanks!

[Furrowed Brow]

John's first measurement of G = 666 x 10^-10 cm^3/g-s^2 certainly was close, I agree, considering his trinity-beam Patmos torsion-balance was built in the first (1st) century. G = .0000000666 cm^3/g-s^2, yes, that is another way to write John's first measurement. Thanks!

You certainly seem excited about something Garry, and though I gave a vague idea it is about the Is value for gravity appearing in some sort of bible code , your own cryptic presentation does not help you to get your point across.

Continually posting formula for energy or gravity or whatever may or may not be highly significant. But you are going to have to come down to our level if you want to communicate your ideas more clearly.

Also I have posted some criticism of your methodology that you have ignored and prefer instead to offer yet another assertion based on what is clearly a flawed approach to scripture. But it seems you don’t really want to get into that kind of conversation.

Energy = e^2*z0*[(G*d)^1/2] ...... (impedance)
Energy = e^2*[(G*d)^1/2]/e0*c ... (electric)
Energy = e^2*u0*c*[(G*d)^1/2] ... (magnetic)

Why is G*d everywhere?

Lets take a look at the dimensions of each formula


Energy = e^2*z0*[(G*d)^1/2] ...... (impedance)
= e^2*u0*c*[(G*d)^1/2]

Now if we convert everything into plank units we can get a clear look at how the dimensions work out.
=(q*A*Tp)^2)*(Lp/A^2/Tp^2)(Lp/Tp)/Tp
= q^2*Lp^2/Tp^2
= q^2*C^2

Where q^2 = alpha = 1/137.03599971

Given E = MC^2 we should expect any formula for energy to be equal to some value*C^2. The appearance of G, which has the dimensions Length^3/Time^2 ensures the dimensions come out right.

Energy = e^2*[(G*d)^1/2]/e0*c ... (electric)

And again from the perspective of Planck units.

= e^2/Tp*(u0*c)
=(q*A*Tp)^2)/Tp*(Lp/(ATp)^2*(Lp/Tp)
= q^2*C^2
= alpha*c^2

Energy = e^2*u0*c*[(G*d)^1/2] ... (magnetic)
=(qATp)^2*(Lp/(Atp)^2)*(Lp/Tp)/Tp
=q^2*C^2
= alpha * C^2

Seeing all these formula present an equivalence the question should be why is alpha*C^2 everywhere. And to answer that you need a TOE. What does John say about alpha or E = MC^2? Alpha is a pure number independent of SI units, and we know its value far more accurately than G. Have you found a way to read the number 1/137.03599971 into Revelations? Though I suppose that if Revelations contained alpha that would indicate it was a book about electromagnetism as well as Gravity I suppose.

[Garry Denke]

Furrowed Brow,

An excellent question, why the "alpha*c^2" is consistently everywhere. Because TOE adjusts your Planck units to fit the cgs measurements. Charles Augustin de Coulomb and Carl Friedrich Gauss caused the Max Karl Ernst Ludwig Planck units cgs-mksa error. Elementary physicist Whilhelm Frederick Denke, Sr corrected Coulomb's error, Gauss' error, and Planck's error, in the spring of 1886 in Germany.

Rev. 1:8
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending...
Rev. 1:11
Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last...
Rev. 21:6
It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end...
Rev.22:13
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

The book of Revelation (gravitation) contains not only "alpha" but "omega" as well, and rightly so, because it was through this children's story about four horses (forces) that the weak force, the strong force, the electro-magnetic force and the gravitational force were unified. It is no wonder then that both the fine-structure constant ("alpha") and the characteristic impedance of vacuum ("omega") are there, along with all of the greek letters of physics. In 1886, a disagreement over Coulomb constant "k" arose between Whilhelm Frederick Denke, Sr and Max Karl Ernst Ludwig Planck, concerning its electrostatic cgs units affecting (4pi), G, d, alpha, omega, E, h, e0, u0, hbar, and c formulas at Christian-Albrechts-Universität zu Kiel in Germany, where he was a professor. Denke and Planck argued the Christian university's trinity of cgs units for 1) electric, 2) magnetic and 3) Gaussian definitions, specifically, the electrostatic units' (from which SI's elementary charge is derived) conversion to mksa units. Here their differences updated using 2006 esu measurements.

2006 measurements: (cgs)
hbar=9.6705522(32) x 10^-29 g-cm^2/s
(4pi)=1.2566370614359172953... x 10^1 (4pi)
e=4.8032042(73) x 10^-10 (statcoulombs)
e^2=2.3070771(29) x 10^-19 esu
c=2.99792458 x 10^10 cm/s
alpha = 7.2973525(37) x 10^-3 sr

Denke definitions: (SI & cgs)
e=[hbar*c/(4pi)]^1/2 - (SI & cgs)
hbar=(4pi)*e^2/c - (SI & cgs)
c=(4pi)*e^2/hbar - (SI & cgs)
(4pi)=hbar*c/e^2 - (SI & cgs)

Planck definitions: (cgs only)
e=[hbar*alpha*c]^1/2 - (cgs only)
hbar=e^2/alpha*c - (cgs only)
c=e^2/alpha*hbar - (cgs only)
alpha=e^2/hbar*c - (cgs only)

2006 conversions: (SI)
hbar=9.6705522(32) x 10^-36 kg-m^2/s
(4pi)=1.2566370614359172953... x 10^1 (4pi)
e=1.6021764(87) x 10^-19 A-s
e^2=2.5669694(96) x 10^-38 A^2-s^2
c=2.99792458 x 10^8 m/s
alpha = 7.2973525(37) x 10^-3 sr

Denke definitions: (SI & cgs)
e=[hbar*c/(4pi)]^1/2 - (SI & cgs)
hbar=(4pi)*e^2/c - (SI & cgs)
c=(4pi)*e^2/hbar - (SI & cgs)
(4pi)=hbar*c/e^2 - (SI & cgs)

Planck definitions: (SI only)
e=[(4pi)*e0*hbar*alpha*c]^1/2 - (SI only)
(4pi)=e^2/e0*hbar*alpha*c - (SI only)
e0=e^2/(4pi)*hbar*alpha*c - (SI only)
hbar=e^2/(4pi)*e0*alpha*c - (SI only)
alpha=e^2/(4pi)*e0*hbar*c - (SI only)
c=e^2/(4pi)*e0*hbar*alpha - (SI only)

TOE unification formulas:

hbar=e^2*omega (SI & cgs)
hbar=e^2/electric*c (SI & cgs)
hbar=e^2*magnetic*c (SI & cgs)

Energy=e^2*omega*[(G*d)^1/2] (SI & cgs)
Energy=e^2*[(G*d)^1/2]/electric*c (SI & cgs)
Energy=e^2*magnetic*c*[(G*d)^1/2] (SI & cgs)

alpha=hbar/2h (SI & cgs)
omega=hbar/e^2 (SI & cgs)

"alpha*c^2" everywhere?

Thanks Brow!

[Garry Denke]

CORRECTION:

2006 measurement (cgs)
hbar=9.6705522(32) x 10^-29 g-cm^2/s
(4pi)=1.256637061... x 10^1
e=4.8032042(73) x 10^-10 (statcoulombs)
e^2=2.3070771(29) x 10^-19 esu
c=2.99792458 x 10^10 cm/s
alpha = 7.2973525(37) x 10^-3 sr

Denke (cgs)
e=[hbar*c/(4pi)]^1/2
hbar=(4pi)*e^2/c
c=(4pi)*e^2/hbar
(4pi)=hbar*c/e^2

Planck (cgs)
e=[hbar*alpha*c]^1/2
hbar=e^2/alpha*c
c=e^2/alpha*hbar
alpha=e^2/hbar*c

2006 conversion (SI)
hbar=9.6705522(32) x 10^-36 kg-m^2/s
(4pi)=1.256637061... x 10^1
e=1.6021764(87) x 10^-19 A-s
e^2=2.5669694(96) x 10^-38 A^2-s^2
c=2.99792458 x 10^8 m/s
alpha = 7.2973525(37) x 10^-3 sr

Denke (SI)
e=(hbar/omega)^1/2
hbar=e^2*omega
omega=hbar/e^2
e=(hbar*electric*c)^1/2
hbar=e^2*/electric*c
electric=e^2/hbar*c
e=(hbar/magnetic*c)^1/2
hbar=e^2*magnetic*c
magnetic=hbar/e^2*c

Planck (SI)
e=[(4pi)*e0*hbar*alpha*c]^1/2
(4pi)=e^2/e0*hbar*alpha*c
e0=e^2/(4pi)*hbar*alpha*c
hbar=e^2/(4pi)*e0*alpha*c
alpha=e^2/(4pi)*e0*hbar*c
c=e^2/(4pi)*e0*hbar*alpha

GUT (SI)
hbar=e^2*omega
hbar=e^2/electric*c
hbar=e^2*magnetic*c

GUT (SI)
Energy=e^2*omega*[(G*d)^1/2]
Energy=e^2*[(G*d)^1/2]/electric*c
Energy=e^2*magnetic*c*[(G*d)^1/2]

GUT (SI)
alpha=hbar/(2*h)
omega=hbar/e^2
alpha=e^2*omega/(2*h)

Thanks!

[Garry Denke]

Schoolboy Error Correction:

1886 history
University of Kiel
Whilhelm Frederick Denke, Sr
(1864-1936) vs.
Max Karl Ernst Ludwig Planck
(1858-1947) at
Christian-Albrechts-Universität zu Kiel

1886-2006 history
The cgs System of Units

Measurements 2006 (cgs)
hbar=9.6705522(32) x 10^-29 g-cm^2/s
(4pi)=1.256637061... x 10^1
e=4.8032042(73) x 10^-10 esu
e^2=2.3070771(29) x 10^-19 esu^2
c=2.99792458 x 10^10 cm/s
alpha=7.2973525(37) x 10^-3 sr

Denke (cgs)
e=[hbar*c/(4pi)]^1/2
hbar=(4pi)*e^2/c
c=(4pi)*e^2/hbar
(4pi)=hbar*c/e^2

Planck (cgs)
e=[hbar*alpha*c]^1/2
hbar=e^2/alpha*c
c=e^2/alpha*hbar
alpha=e^2/hbar*c

Conversions 2006 (SI)
hbar=9.6705522(32) x 10^-36 kg-m^2/s
(4pi)=1.256637061... x 10^1
e=1.6021764(87) x 10^-19 A-s
e^2=2.5669694(96) x 10^-38 A^2-s^2
c=2.99792458 x 10^8 m/s
alpha=7.2973525(37) x 10^-3 sr

Denke (SI)
e=(hbar/omega)^1/2
hbar=e^2*omega
omega=hbar/e^2
e=(hbar*electric*c)^1/2
hbar=e^2*/electric*c
electric=e^2/hbar*c
e=(hbar/magnetic*c)^1/2
hbar=e^2*magnetic*c
magnetic=hbar/e^2*c

Planck (SI)
e=[(4pi)*e0*hbar*alpha*c]^1/2
(4pi)=e^2/e0*hbar*alpha*c
e0=e^2/(4pi)*hbar*alpha*c
hbar=e^2/(4pi)*e0*alpha*c
alpha=e^2/(4pi)*e0*hbar*c
c=e^2/(4pi)*e0*hbar*alpha

GUT (SI)
hbar=e^2*omega
hbar=e^2/electric*c
hbar=e^2*magnetic*c

alpha=hbar/(2*h)
hbar=h*(2*alpha)
h=hbar/(2*alpha)
omega=hbar/e^2
hbar=e^2*omega
e^2=hbar/omega

Sorry!

[McCulloch]

Garry, let's say for the sake of argument, you are correct. I cannot say that you are in error, since I, like most of the debaters here, cannot make any sense out of what you are trying to convey.

The book of Revelation (gravitation) contains not only "alpha" but "omega" as well, and rightly so, because it was through this children's story about four horses (forces) that the weak force, the strong force, the electro-magnetic force and the gravitational force were unified. It is no wonder then that both the fine-structure constant ("alpha") and the characteristic impedance of vacuum ("omega") are there, along with all of the greek letters of physics.

What are the implications? Did John the Beloved know things about physics that took western civilization to the 20th century to figure out? Did God have a reason to encode this knowledge into a first century book? Is it all a strange coincidence? Are there other discoveries to be found by simply deciphering this prophetic book? What is your point?

[Garry Denke]

Garry, let's say for the sake of argument, you are correct. I cannot say that you are in error, since I, like most of the debaters here, cannot make any sense out of what you are trying to convey.

The point of this thread is what the 6's mean. How did the Son ever become equated with 6's? Let us follow the Son in the trinity and find out. The children's story about a dragon and a beast...

Saint Leonardo da Vinci (1452-1519)

Revelation 12
And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth:

Father, Son, Holy Ghost
1/3 = .333...
2/3 = .666... (wisdom)
3/3 = .999...

7 heads
1/c = .0000000333... time/space
2/c = .0000000666... time/space (wisdom)
3/c = .0000000999... time/space

10 horns
1/3 = .333... x 10
2/3 = .666... x 10 (wisdom)
3/3 = .999... x 10

7 crowns
1/c = .333... x 10^-7 time/space
2/c = .666... x 10^-7 time/space (wisdom)
3/c = .999... x 10^-7 time/space

c = 3 x 10^7 space/time

Saint Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)

Revelation 13
And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

Father, Son, Holy Ghost
1/3 = .333...
2/3 = .666... (wisdom)
3/3 = .999...

7 heads
1/c = .0000000333... time/space
2/c = .0000000666... time/space (wisdom)
3/c = .0000000999... time/space

10 horns
1/3 = .333... x 10
2/3 = .666... x 10 (wisdom)
3/3 = .999... x 10

10 crowns
1/c = 333... x 10^-10 time/space
2/c = 666... x 10^-10 time/space (wisdom)
3/c = 999... x 10^-10 time/space

c = 3 x 10^7 space/time

Saint Isaac Newton (1643-1727)

Daniel 7
I saw in my vision by night, and, behold, the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea. And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another.

YHWH
3^1 = 3
3^2 = 9
3^3 = 27
3^4 = 81 (four-dimensional universe)

1 rides
1/3^1 = .3333333333...
1/3^2 = .1111111111...
1/3^3 = .0370370370...
1/3^4 = .0123456789... (four-dimensional universe)

c horses
c^1 = 3 x 10^7 space/time
c^2 = 9 x 10^14 space^2/time^2
c^3 = 2.7 x 10^22 space^3/time^3
c^4 = 8.1 x 10^29 space^4/time^4 (four-dimensional universe)

1 rides c horses
1/c^1 = 3.33333333... x 10^-8 time/space
1/c^2 = 1.11111111... x 10^-15 time^2/space^2
1/c^3 = 3.70370370... x 10^-23 time^3/space^3
1/c^4 = 1.23456789... x 10^-30 time^4/space^4 (four-dimensional universe)

Saint John Michell (1727-1793)

Revelation 17
And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

c^1 = 3 x 10^7 space/time
c^2 = 9 x 10^14 space^2/time^2
c^3 = 2.7 x 10^22 space^3/time^3
c^4 = 8.1 x 10^29 space^4/time^4 (four-dimensional universe)
c^5 = 2.43 x 10^37 space^5/time^5

1/c^1 = 3.33333333... x 10^-8 time/space
1/c^2 = 1.11111111... x 10^-15 time^2/space^2
1/c^3 = 3.70370370... x 10^-23 time^3/space^3
1/c^4 = 1.23456789... x 10^-30 time^4/space^4 (four-dimensional universe)
1/c^5 = 4.11522633... x 10^-38 time^5/space^5

Saint Henry Cavendish (1731-1810)

Revelation 17
And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition. And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. These have one mind, and shall give their power and force unto the beast.

power = mass-space^2/time^3
G*power = c^5
power = c^5/G
G = c^5/power

force = mass-space/time^2
G*force = c^4
force = c^4/G
G = c^4/force

What are the implications?

G = 6.67128190... x 10^-8 cm^3/g-s^2 [exact] (cgs)
G = 6.67128190... x 10^-11 m^3/kg-s^2 [exact] (SI)

Did John the Beloved know things about physics that took western civilization to the 20th century to figure out?

the light
c = power/force
c = 3 x 10^7 space/time

Did God have a reason to encode this knowledge into a first century book? Is it all a strange coincidence? Are there other discoveries to be found by simply deciphering this prophetic book?

9^9 (387,420,489) primary formulas
light = mass-space^2/time^2
dark = space^3/mass-time^2

21st century, current-time...
and God divided the light from the dark.

[Garry Denke]

McCulloch,

Because "hbar=h/(2pi)" is called the "reduced Planck constant", the CERN
folks are calling "hbar=h(2*alpha)" the "further reduced Planck constant".

It does not matter to me what they call...

hbar=h*2*alpha
hbar=alpha*2*h
hbar=2*alpha*h
hbar=h*alpha*2
hbar=2*h*alpha
hbar=alpha*h*2

or even...

h*2*alpha=hbar
alpha*2*h=hbar
2*alpha*h=hbar
h*alpha*2=hbar
2*h*alpha=hbar
alpha*h*2=hbar

I'm just glad all the constants are unified.

Yay, thanks!