does the koran has miracles, that prove -koran is from god-

[candlelight1377]

the question is ---does the koran has miracles, that prove that koran is from god ?
i will give you the evidences one by one
so we can discuss it one by one

[mlex]

I can not understand when many people admitted that the holy Quran can not be from normal person who lived in small city then he shown amazing book contains a lot of amazing facts about many fields wether on science section or moral behaviour!!

[Goat]

I can not understand when many people admitted that the holy Quran can not be from normal person who lived in small city then he shown amazing book contains a lot of amazing facts about many fields wether on science section or moral behaviour!!

And I can not understand why so many people make that claim, yet when asked to back it up , they falter , fall into logical fallacies and lies.

[mlex]

ISLAM is still growing even if unbelievers have attacked it,

every day many people are embarcing ISLAM from different kinds of them :

(scientists,missonaries,old people,young,famous,poor,rich,black,white)...

An-Nasr
In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful

When Allah's succour and the triumph cometh (1) And thou seest mankind entering the religion of Allah in troops, (2) Then hymn the praises of thy Lord, and seek forgiveness of Him. Lo! He is ever ready to show mercy. (3)

maryam 19

Such was Jesus, son of Mary: (this is) a statement of the truth concerning which they doubt. (34) It befitteth not (the Majesty of) Allah that He should take unto Himself a son. Glory be to Him! When He decreeth a thing, He saith unto it only: Be! and it is. (35) And lo! Allah is my Lord and your Lord. So serve Him. That is the right path. (36) The sects among them differ: but woe unto the disbelievers from the meeting of an awful Day. (37)

[Goat]

ISLAM is still growing even if unbelievers have attacked it,

every day many people are embarcing ISLAM from different kinds of them :

(scientists,missonaries,old people,young,famous,poor,rich,black,white)...

An-Nasr
In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful

When Allah's succour and the triumph cometh (1) And thou seest mankind entering the religion of Allah in troops, (2) Then hymn the praises of thy Lord, and seek forgiveness of Him. Lo! He is ever ready to show mercy. (3)

maryam 19

Such was Jesus, son of Mary: (this is) a statement of the truth concerning which they doubt. (34) It befitteth not (the Majesty of) Allah that He should take unto Himself a son. Glory be to Him! When He decreeth a thing, He saith unto it only: Be! and it is. (35) And lo! Allah is my Lord and your Lord. So serve Him. That is the right path. (36) The sects among them differ: but woe unto the disbelievers from the meeting of an awful Day. (37)

And , every day, people are leaving Isalm.. even though ti is a death sentence in many countries.

So?

[mlex]

ISLAM is still growing even if unbelievers have attacked it,

growing = more , increase , raise

[lao tzu]

ISLAM is still growing even if unbelievers have attacked it,

growing = more , increase , raise

At one point, about a year ago, I researched this claim. As it turns out, there are no reliable figures available to support it, yet the claim makes its way unchallenged among muslim apologists. There have, apparently, been a number of claims of vast membership increases in the US, but as it turns out they all source their way back to CAIR, a political interest group with a mission of promoting muslim interests. As such, they have a vested interest in promoting unrealistic growth figures, and it shows when one examines their study — self-reported membership figures from self-selected mosques that have chosen to participate in a highly unscientific survey.

The most reliable information I can find comes from the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life. The Executive Summary of their recently released Mapping the Global Muslim Population (pdf), released in October 2009, notes the wide range of population figures that have appeared in previous studies, making meaningful growth statistics impossible to calculate. They do intend to revisit this study this year, at which point we may indeed be able to say something about comparative growth rates.

Independent of growth rates, however, the distribution of the muslim population tells another tale. It tells the tale of a geographically isolated religious population, the muslims, who have made no meaningful inroads into other parts of the world beyond those they conquered by force prior to the decline of the Islamic Empire many centuries ago. In what would be the most likely area to look for exceptions, Europe, despite large-scale immigration of muslims and relatively high birth rates, we find the muslim population has remained fairly stable, which can only mean that after a generation of living in the West, children of muslims tend to stop identifying themselves as muslim. These results overseas mirror a trend that is meticulously detailed in the Pew Forum's U.S. Religious Landscape Survey, which clearly shows that the largest scale change in identification among Americans is from adherence to a religious faith to ... none of the above. By the numbers, as far as we can determine winners and losers, it's the atheists and agnostics who are showing the greatest gains.

In summary, your claim is unsupported by any rigorous studies, and what studies we actually have that are rigorous suggest that your claim is simply wrong.

Oh, and please, in the future, try to avoid posting mere re-iterations of claims that have been shown incorrect, as if when spoken by Zakir Naik or some other favorite among the muslims the mere authority and esteem in which muslims hold such men can make up for the fact that the claims remain unsupported, and further, remain incorrect.

As ever, Jesse

[mlex]

gary miller said:
''Recently, the leading intellectual in the Catholic Church - a man by the name of Hans -
studied the Qur'an and gave his opinion of what he had read. This man has been around
for some time, and he is highly respected in the Catholic Church, and after careful
scrutiny, he reported his findings, concluding, "God has spoken to man through the
man Muhammad."Again this is a conclusion arrived at by a non-Muslim source''.*


G.R. Miller is a mathematician and a theologian. He was active in Christian missionary work at a particular point of his life but he soon began to discover many inconsistencies in the Bible. In 1978, he happened to read the Qur'an expecting that it, too, would contain a mixture of truth and falsehood.He discovered to his amazement that the message of the Qur'an was precisely the same as the essence of truth that he had distilled from the Bible. He became a Muslim and since then has been active in giving public presentations on Islam including radio and television appearances. He is also the author of several articles and publications about Islam.


* http://voiceofquran.com/ebooks/002_The_ ... _Quran.pdf

[lao tzu]

A guy named "Hans" is the leading intellectual of the Catholic church? Who believes this?

I'm right on the edge of invoking Poe's Law on this one.

mlex, granting you the benefit of the doubt and assuming you're sincere in posting this latest, please read the following:

"Recently, the leading intellectual of Islam - a woman by the name of Gretel - studied the Book of Mormon and gave her opinion of what she had read. This woman has been around for some time, and she is highly respected by all muslims, and after careful scrutiny, she reported her findings, concluding, "Allah has spoken to man through the man, Joseph Smith." Again this is a conclusion arrived at by a Muslim source - the very leading intellectual of Islam herself!

Now, try to think of an objection to believing the above that doesn't apply to the story you posted.

As ever, Jesse

[mlex]

So verily, I swear by the stars that recede (i.e. disappear during the day and appear during the night). And by the (cleaning) stars that move swiftly and hide themselves. Allah, the Almighty, says: [So verily, I swear by the stars that recede (i.e. disappear during the day and appear during the night). And by the (cleaning) stars that move swiftly and hide themselves.] (At-Takwir: 15-16)

The Scientific Fact:


Black holes are the late stages of the life of gigantic stars which are five times larger than the sun. These stars are of great density and gravity that they almost gravitate everything even light whose speed is 300,000 km/. Therefore, they are given this name (i.e. black holes) because anything that approaches them disappears, and they are seen as black holes in space. These giant hidden stars sweep away anything in their way including other stars and that is why they are called gigantic vacuum-cleaners. These facts are proven by the calculations made by Karl Schwars Child in 1916 and Robert Oppenheimer in 1934. Since 1971, the existence of such black holes in space has become more and more probable. For instance, scientists believe that our galaxy (the Milky Way) is considered one of these black holes.

Facets of Scientific Inimitability:


Allah, the Almighty, swore by these things to confirm the fact that the Ever-Glorious Qur'an is a Divine revelation. He (Exalted and Glorified be He) says: [So verily, I swear by the stars that recede (i.e. disappear during the day and appear during the night). And by the (cleaning) stars that move swiftly and hide themselves. And by the night as it departs; And by the dawn as it brightens; Verily, this is the Word (this Qur'an brought by) a most honorable messenger [Jibril (Gabriel), from Allah to the Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him)].] (At-Takwir: 15-19)

The importance of this kind of confirmation lies in the object used for swearing here, which is described in a way tantamount to black holes. The black holes are running stars that move in their poles, and hide themselves after having been obvious, as they are at the end of their lives. They produce no light due to their gravity which enables them to gravitate everything in their way and clear their way by swallowing up everything around. The Ever-Glorious Qur'an describes them as being ‘cleaners’ in conformity with the scientific description. The Qur’anic description which confirms the scientific one stands as decisive evidence that the Ever-Glorious Qur'an is the true word of Allah - Glory be to Him.


www.eajaz.org


76. Surah Al-Insan (Man or Time)
1. Has there not been over man a period of time, when he was nothing to be mentioned?

2. Verily, We have created man from Nutfah drops of mixed semen (discharge of man and woman), in order to try him, so We made him hearer, seer.

3. Verily, We showed him the way, whether he be grateful or ungrateful.

[lao tzu]

"For instance, scientists believe that our galaxy (the Milky Way) is considered one of these black holes."

Okay, that's enough.