Why will the Catholic Church excommunicate female priests?
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Post #1Why will the Catholic Church excommunicate female priests but not pedophile male priests?
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I think the reason is that they say the pedophiles are sinners, and that the females are outside of doctrine. The former are thought to be redeemable, while the latter earn an exit visa.
Sin doesn't get you excommunicated, but heresy does.
Not endorsing, just reporting.
Sin doesn't get you excommunicated, but heresy does.
Not endorsing, just reporting.
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Interesting. Thanks. Makes sense in a twisted way. Shows well how unreasonable ideas lead reasonably to unreasonable conclusions.
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Have you read the book that they base their religion off of?
Post #4The Catholic Church takes a couple hundred years longer then the rest of society to accept certain truths about this world, and the universe around us.
It only took them a bit over 400 years to recognize Copernicus contributions...
They have a history of fighting progress - from their stand against stem cell research, to their banning of condoms (despite the fact that condoms would save millions of lives in certain African nations)...
But then again, all one must do is read the book from which they receive all their "wisdom" to understand why they do what they do - we are talking about a book filled with homophobia, misogyny, racism, slavery, genocide, homocide, human sacrifice, etc. etc.
I mean - how many times have they had to reverse their standing every time a new scientific discovery comes along (no, Catholic Church, the sun does not revolve around the Earth).
It only took them a bit over 400 years to recognize Copernicus contributions...
They have a history of fighting progress - from their stand against stem cell research, to their banning of condoms (despite the fact that condoms would save millions of lives in certain African nations)...
But then again, all one must do is read the book from which they receive all their "wisdom" to understand why they do what they do - we are talking about a book filled with homophobia, misogyny, racism, slavery, genocide, homocide, human sacrifice, etc. etc.
I mean - how many times have they had to reverse their standing every time a new scientific discovery comes along (no, Catholic Church, the sun does not revolve around the Earth).
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Possibly because it's easier to condemn someone based on their rule book than to accept a major flaw in their institution.
Acknowledging their guilt in such a delicate matter as child abuse would knock them right down of the moral pedestal, assuming they were ever standing on it in the first place.
Acknowledging their guilt in such a delicate matter as child abuse would knock them right down of the moral pedestal, assuming they were ever standing on it in the first place.
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In what way does the church condemn people? They do not allow women to be priests, in the church, the priesthood is reserved for men only. Women are able to serve by joining religious sisters.Lucia wrote:Possibly because it's easier to condemn someone based on their rule book than to accept a major flaw in their institution.
Child abuse is not what this thread is about.Lucia wrote:Acknowledging their guilt in such a delicate matter as child abuse would knock them right down of the moral pedestal, assuming they were ever standing on it in the first place.
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On the contrary, pedophile priests are abusing children, by defnition.. and therefore it is part of the opie.winepusher wrote:In what way does the church condemn people? They do not allow women to be priests, in the church, the priesthood is reserved for men only. Women are able to serve by joining religious sisters.Lucia wrote:Possibly because it's easier to condemn someone based on their rule book than to accept a major flaw in their institution.
Child abuse is not what this thread is about.Lucia wrote:Acknowledging their guilt in such a delicate matter as child abuse would knock them right down of the moral pedestal, assuming they were ever standing on it in the first place.
As long as it is restricted to child abuse by the priests.
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Well, if they excommunicate them they separate them from the church, and they can no longer receive sacraments or communion. Are these not requirements to be saved, according to the Catholic Church?winepusher wrote:In what way does the church condemn people? They do not allow women to be priests, in the church, the priesthood is reserved for men only. Women are able to serve by joining religious sisters.
As Goat pointed out, the OP is about pedophile priests in the Catholic Church. I don't know about you, but all the pedophiles I've heard of abused children at some point.winepusher wrote:Child abuse is not what this thread is about.
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Actually, yes it is.winepusher wrote:Child abuse is not what this thread is about.
My intention in starting the thread was that it be called "Why will the Catholic Church excommunicate female priests but not pedophile male priests?" as per the originating post.
Unfortunately the subject line cannot be that long and I couldn't find words to make it fit.
The child abuse aspect is the serious one that shows the absurdity of The Churches position and so is the main point.
I'm wondering if any Catholics will support His Holiness on this one?
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Oh, I didn't see that part about the pedophile priests. It is rather disgraceful that those known pedophile priests aren't locked up.goat wrote:On the contrary, pedophile priests are abusing children, by defnition.. and therefore it is part of the opie.winepusher wrote:In what way does the church condemn people? They do not allow women to be priests, in the church, the priesthood is reserved for men only. Women are able to serve by joining religious sisters.Lucia wrote:Possibly because it's easier to condemn someone based on their rule book than to accept a major flaw in their institution.
Child abuse is not what this thread is about.Lucia wrote:Acknowledging their guilt in such a delicate matter as child abuse would knock them right down of the moral pedestal, assuming they were ever standing on it in the first place.
As long as it is restricted to child abuse by the priests.