Reconciliation, an accomplished fact

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newnature
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Reconciliation, an accomplished fact

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Reconciliation is an accomplished fact. It is entirely outside of yourself, and it is simply to be received. There is a new view of living, no longer for self, but for God; to die to self and live to Christ.

God has taken the initiative to reconcile man back to himself. God is not reconciled to man, as though God were partly to blame for the enmity. Rather, man is reconciled to God, for it is man who moved away from God. When people need to be reconciled to one another, it normally involves a situation where fault lies on both sides to some degree. Not so with the case between man and God, man has moved away from God, and it is man who needs to be reconciled back to God, not God back to man.

The basic idea of reconciling is to change or make otherwise. This is the reverse of Hellenistic religion, where it is the human being that seeks restoration of the gods’ favor, and also of Judaism, where confession of sin and repentance are the means by which reconciliation with God is sought. It is not that we must reconcile ourselves to God. Rather, we are to be reconciled, that is, to accept what God has already achieved.

It is not merely that we acquire a right standing or do good works; we actually become righteous. For through what Christ had accomplished, we truly assume his righteousness, just as Christ assumed our sin. If our debts are not posted to our account, it is because someone else has legally assumed them. Christ righteousness ours, and our sin his.

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newnature wrote: Reconciliation is an accomplished fact. It is entirely outside of yourself, and it is simply to be received. There is a new view of living, no longer for self, but for God; to die to self and live to Christ.

God has taken the initiative to reconcile man back to himself. God is not reconciled to man, as though God were partly to blame for the enmity. Rather, man is reconciled to God, for it is man who moved away from God. When people need to be reconciled to one another, it normally involves a situation where fault lies on both sides to some degree. Not so with the case between man and God, man has moved away from God, and it is man who needs to be reconciled back to God, not God back to man.

The basic idea of reconciling is to change or make otherwise. This is the reverse of Hellenistic religion, where it is the human being that seeks restoration of the gods’ favor, and also of Judaism, where confession of sin and repentance are the means by which reconciliation with God is sought. It is not that we must reconcile ourselves to God. Rather, we are to be reconciled, that is, to accept what God has already achieved.

It is not merely that we acquire a right standing or do good works; we actually become righteous. For through what Christ had accomplished, we truly assume his righteousness, just as Christ assumed our sin. If our debts are not posted to our account, it is because someone else has legally assumed them. Christ righteousness ours, and our sin his.
The five posts that you have submitted here, are all about salvation and reconciliation to God by living a life in obedience to the Lord who, in 1st Samuel 15: 1; through his prophet Samuel, commanded Saul to destroy the Amalekites and everything they had, because of what their ancestors had done to the Israelites some four hundred years previously. Saul was commanded to kill every man, woman and child, all the babies, the cattle, sheep, camels and donkeys, but King Saul sinned by not obeying the commands of the Lord.

Do you know what my God demands of me, do you know his plan and the end result of what I do in obedience to his commands?

Tamah played the prostitute and seduced Judah her father-in-law to who she bore the twins Perez and his brother Zerah the patriarch of the tribe of the scarlet thread, was she an obedient handmaid to her indwelling spirit who has the end result all planed out?

Rahab the mother of Boaz the grandfather of King David, was a prostitute from Jericho, is she to be condemned as a sinner?

Ruth the mother of Jesse, who with her sexual cunning snared her husband Boaz, can her actions be condemned as sinful?

Bathsheba, who committed adultery with King David, who caused her husband "Uriah to be killed, and who later bore to David her fourth son Solomon, of who the Lord said in 1st Chronicles 17: "I will be his father and he will be my son, etc" The son of the Lord, who was born of blood and adultery, was to build the glorious temple of God upon the earth which would be filled with the dazzling light of the Lords presence in which he would dwell on earth among mankind, The child born of Blood and adultery who the Lord declared would be his Son and he would be his father, was blessed to reign over the most glorious period of Israel's history.

Was Bathsheba an agent of the Lord, and was her sin not hidden in the shadows beneath the wings of the Lord of Spirits?

And what of Mary the obedient handmaid of the Lord, who conceived in her womb, "JESUS" the biological son of her half brother, "Joseph the son of Alexander Helios=HELI," who had also fathered Mary the daughter of Anna, who was one of the three daughters of Jehoshua the high priest in Jerusalem from 36 to 23 BC.

Was her act of obedience not overshadowed by the Lord?

When you say that we must turn from our sins, you must first define for us, exactly what sin is.

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