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Post BBCode URL - Right click and save to clipboard to use later in post Post 1: Fri May 10, 2013 4:29 am
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Thank you Muhammad for filling Muslims with Hatred!!!

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What is the explanation of Muslims about this verses?


Is this From God? Can I believe it? Does a Muslim believe it?
For Gods sake its 21th Century guys dont be fooled anymore.
Anyway, Muslims enjoy this versus and thank you for your compassion.


Qur’an 9:29-Fight against Christians and Jews ”until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.”




Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-" This passage criticizes "peaceful" Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah's eyes. It also demolishes the modern myth that "Jihad" doesn't mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle. Not only is the Arabic word used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption. (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man's protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad and this is reflected in other translations of the verse).



Qur’an 4:91- If the unbelievers do not offer you peace, kill them wherever you find them. Against such you are given clear warrant.

. Qur’an 9:7-9-Don’t make treaties with non-Muslims. They are all evildoers and should not be trusted.

Qur’an 9:12-14-Fight the disbelievers! Allah is on your side; he will give you victory.

. Qur’an 9:5 Kill the nonbelievers wherever you find them.

Qur’an 2:191-2-Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers.

Qur’an (5:51) - ”O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.”

Qur’an (2:65-66) Christians and Jews must believe what Allah has revealed to Muhammad or Allah will disfigure their faces or turn them into apes, as he did the Sabbath-breakers.

Qur’an (4:48, 4:116)-Those who ascribe a partner to Allah (like Christians do with Jesus and the Holy Spirit) will not be forgiven. They have “invented a tremendous sin.”

Qur’an (4:51)-Jews and Christians believe in idols and false deities, yet they claim to be more rightly guided than Muslims.

Qur’an (5:51) Don’t take Jews or Christians for friends. If you do, then Allah will consider you to be one of them.

Qur’an (5:80) – “You will see many of them befriending those who disbelieve; certainly evil is that which their souls have sent before for them, that Allah became displeased with them and in chastisement shall they abide.” Those Muslims who befriend unbelievers will abide in hell.

Qur’an (3:85) - ”And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers.”

. Qur’an 9:6-Those who submit and convert to Islam will be treated well. (Those who don’t submit will be killed. See previous verse.)

Qur’an 5:53 Jews and Christians are losers.

Qur’an 5:59 Jews and Christians are evil-livers.

Qur’an 5:63 Evil is the handiwork of the rabbis and priests.

Qur’an 5:72 Christians will be burned in the Fire.

Qur’an 5:73Christians are wrong about the Trinity. For that they will have a painful doom.

Qur’an 9:30Christians and Jews are perverse. Allah himself fights against them.

Qur’an 9:34 Give tidings (O Muhammad) of a painful doom to the rich and greedy Christian monks and Jewish rabbis.

Qur’an 19:35-37“Woe unto the disbelievers from the meeting of an awful Day.”
Jesus was not the Son of God. Those who say he was (Christians) are going to hell.

Qur’an 28:62-64 Allah will taunt Christians on the day of their doom, saying: Where are My partners whom ye imagined?

Qur’an 40:73Allah will taunt the Christians in hell, saying: Where are all my parnters that you used to believe in?

Ishaq:364 “Muslims, take not Jews and Christians as friends. Whoever protects them becomes one of them, they become diseased, and will earn a similar fate.”

Qur’an 3:67 ”Abraham was not a Jew nor yet a Christian; but he was a true Muslim, surrendered to Allah (which is Islam), and he joined not gods with Allah.”

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Post BBCode URL - Right click and save to clipboard to use later in post Post 2: Fri May 31, 2013 8:18 pm
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Isn't it telling that not a SINGLE response from Muslims about the OP ? While most Christians are ignorant about Islam , every single Muslim knows that the verses from the Quran in the OP are true.
They don't respond because one can NOT defend the pure hatred that is exibited in those verses .


And this is God speaking ?

BIG HINT : what entity could possibility have a reason for hating Jews and Christians so much that he would this to them :

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Sahih International - 4:56- Indeed, those who disbelieve in Our verses - We will drive them into a Fire. Every time their skins are roasted through We will replace them with other skins so they may taste the punishment. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted in Might and Wise.



What a LOVING God......The Father !!







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Post BBCode URL - Right click and save to clipboard to use later in post Post 3: Sat Jun 08, 2013 2:56 pm
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Here is my first comment to expose the realty of
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And here is my answer to one of his claim [Replying to post 129 by steps]

I am not forced to answer the false claim , already he knows the true but he is lying about everything , the target of this man makes me busy by answering his lies .

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Qur’an 9:29-Fight against Christians and Jews ”until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.”


1st lie

The verse is : [29. Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. ].
The attributes of the Christians and Jews according to the verse :
1- Believe not in Allah .
2- Believe not in the last day as Allah mentioned it .
3- hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger.
4- nor acknowledge the religion of Truth.

Each reason has an explanation , and I will not waste my time about with someone his motive enmity and lying . also the verse has a strong connection with the beginning of Chapter [ 9] .

Is it allowed for Muslims to kill any unbelievers ?

No , we do not have the right to kill :

1- A covenanter
2- The Dhimmi a term referring to non-Muslim citizens of an Islamic state. Dhimma allows rights of residence in return for tax .
3- An unbeliever entered the land of Muslims such as traders

The 2nd team : those who fight Muslims . we have the right to fight them back and kill them . such as soldiers , who spends his money to fight Muslims , who uses the media to wage wars against Muslims or to attack Islam.

You can return to the amazing teachings

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Post BBCode URL - Right click and save to clipboard to use later in post Post 4: Sat Jun 08, 2013 2:58 pm
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Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-"
This passage criticizes "peaceful" Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah's eyes. It also demolishes the modern myth that "Jihad" doesn't mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle. Not only is the Arabic word used in this passage, but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual, since the physically disabled are given exemption. (The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man's protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad and this is reflected in other translations of the verse).


2nd lie .. he did not write the previous verse

94. O ye who believe! When ye go abroad in the cause of Allah, investigate carefully, and say not to any one who offers you a salutation: "Thou art none of a believer!" Coveting the perishable goods of this life: with Allah are profits and spoils abundant. Even thus were ye yourselves before, till Allah conferred on you His favours: Therefore carefully investigate. For Allah is well aware of all that ye do.

95. Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-

Also the verse is motivating the believers to fight those who fights them. this means any believer can be a soldier for the cause of Allah . the believer is not waiting for salary or any reward from anyone . except from Allah . therefore Allah guarantees him the best reward .

USA president , or the Minister of Defense visits the army and support the soldiers . also there are medals , catalysts , bonus for the brave soldiers .

The Mujahedeen are not waiting for these things and not searching for them .. they are looking for the rewards of Allah.

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Qur’an 4:91- If the unbelievers do not offer you peace, kill them wherever you find them. Against such you are given clear warrant.


3rd lie , he is cutting the verses .

4: 91. Others you will find that wish to gain your confidence as well as that of their people: Every time they are sent back to temptation, they succumb thereto: if they withdraw not from you nor give you (guarantees) of peace besides restraining their hands, seize them and slay them wherever ye get them: In their case We have provided you with a clear argument against them.

there are conditions

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. Qur’an 9:7-9-Don’t make treaties with non-Muslims. They are all evildoers and should not be trusted.
Qur’an 9:12-14-Fight the disbelievers! Allah is on your side; he will give you victory.
Qur’an 9:5 Kill the nonbelievers wherever you find them.


4th lie

Jihad is inevitable case …a heavenly Law in all Abrahamic religions … many prophets battled . even in Christianity the Law of Jihad has been established by prophet Jesus peace be upon him ,

Chapter 9 , verse 5 :

(( But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. ))

1-Allah commanded his prophet and Muslims to fight and slay the pagans .. [the Pagans are archenemies against Islam . for thirteen years while prophet was still in Makkah , they rebuked the Prophet, taunted and mocked him, beat him and abused him, both physically and mentally. They placed the afterbirth of a camel on his back while he was praying, and they boycotted him and his tribe until the social sanctions became unbearable. They plotted and attempted to kill him on more than one occasion, and when the Prophet immigrated to Medina, they rallied the majority of the Arab tribes and waged many wars against him , they killed some of his companions ] the most important " they are the enemies of Allah " , so what do you expect prophet Mohammad did with them ? " you will see " .


2- The situation is war , soldiers faced each other in the battle field .


3- Allah put Conditions for Muslims during wars :

( A) : the war will not begin until the forbidden months pass . even if a Muslim faced a pagan face to face : this means a chance for the pagans to announce surrender or to depart the holy city " Makkah " because they were perform hajj undressed . to worship 360 idols .

( B ) : the war is not for personal benefits , because Allah commanded prophet Mohammad to open the way for them .. if they repent . and Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful .

( C ) : did you read the previous verse ? (( [4] (But the treaties are) not dissolved with those Pagans with whom ye have entered into alliance and who have not subsequently failed you in aught, nor aided anyone against you. So fulfil your engagements with them to the end of their term: for Allah loveth the righteous. )) no comment


( D ) : did you read the next verse ? (([6] If one amongst the Pagans ask thee for asylum, grant it to him, so that he may hear the word of Allah; and then escort him to where he can be secure. That is because they are men without knowledge ))
indeed , he is lying


This is my religion …. No religion greater than Islam


what do you expect prophet Mohammad did with them ?

When prophet Mohammad peace be upon him entered Makkah victorious with an army of 10,000, he did not take revenge from anyone. The Prophet said to the Pagans :

“O people of Quraish! What do you think I will do to you?

Hoping for a good response, they said: “You will do good. You are a noble brother, son of a noble brother.”

The Prophet then said: “Then I say to you what Joseph said to his brothers: ‘There is no blame upon you.’ Go! For you all free!.

This is my prophet … the prophet of Mercy " peace be upon you prophet Mohammad "

(([107] We sent thee not, but as a mercy for all creatures. ))

You must understand it is war's situation , Now the verses from 7 to 9 are exposing the hearts of the disbelievers … what they will do if they get an opportunity against the believers . :

7. How can there be a league, before Allah and His Messenger, with the Pagans, except those with whom ye made a treaty near the sacred Mosque? As long as these stand true to you, stand ye true to them: for Allah doth love the righteous. 8. How (can there be such a league), seeing that if they get an advantage over you, they respect not in you the ties either of kinship or of covenant? With (fair words from) their mouths they entice you, but their hearts are averse from you; and most of them are rebellious and wicked. 9. The Signs of Allah have they sold for a miserable price, and (many) have they hindered from His way: evil indeed are the deeds they have done. 10. In a Believer they respect not the ties either of kinship or of covenant! It is they who have transgressed all bounds.11. But (even so), if they repent, establish regular prayers, and practise regular charity,- they are your brethren in Faith: (thus) do We explain the Signs in detail, for those who understand.12. But if they violate their oaths after their covenant, and taunt you for your Faith,- fight ye the chiefs of Unfaith: for their oaths are nothing to them: that thus they may be restrained.13. Will ye not fight people who violated their oaths, plotted to expel the Messenger, and took the aggressive by being the first (to assault) you? Do ye fear them? Nay, it is Allah Whom ye should more justly fear, if ye believe!14. Fight them, and Allah will punish them by your hands, cover them with shame, help you (to victory) over them, heal the breasts of Believers,15. And still the indignation of their hearts. For Allah will turn (in mercy) to whom He will; and Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise.

All praise be to Allah , I am able to expose his lies one by one .

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Qur’an 2:191-2-Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers.


5th lie , the man is lying , lying lying

[190. Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors.

191. And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have Turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith.

192. But if they cease, Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.

193. And fight them on until there is no more Tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah. but if they cease, Let there be no hostility except to those who practise oppression.]Surah 2

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Mr steps,

When " debating " , you , and the majority of Muslims , have this nasty habit of constantly using the Bible as a " straw argument ". Why don't you defend the Quran as it should be defended ; " the Quran is the UNADULTERATED word of God " !!

As the UNADULTERATED and TRUE word of God , the Quran should have no problem showing that it is so , to any human being , if they just read it. After all , God should be able to make himself clear in his intentions.

Mr. Gardian completely and totally exposed Islam and its true nature. I wouldn't even call Islam a religion because of its EVIL and HATEFUL nature. The proper term for Islam is.......an EVIL CULT !
Everything that Islam and the Quran stand for is ANATHEMA to Christ and his teachings. Mr. Gardian is correct not to believe in the OT " God " because that God is not any better than Allah. I disagree with Mr. Gardian as to the prophets. ...many were believers in God but some were better than others.


Yahweh and Allah are both LIARS , as evident by their claim that the Great Flood happened. We are
1000 % certain that no such flood ever occured , as described in the OT and the Quran. While we know that the Bible is the work of men , and it precedes the Quran by at least 1200 years , why did Allah say that it happened ?


WHO .........IS..........ALLAH ?


In the thread " The Lucifer rebellion " , we see that Lucifer , Satan and The Devil ( our Planetary Prince ) rebelled against Christ and his righteous rule. The final showdown occured on mount Hermon , when Christ , as a son of Man , withstood the onslaught of the rebels and defeated them.
Lucifer was immediately apprehended but Satan and The Devil were left free until such time when their cases are ajudicated.

Time line of events :

1-2000 years ago Christ defeats the rebels. Satan and The Devil are left free due to judicial technicalities.

2-600 years after Christ' s ascension , a " new religion " appears in the world. It is revealed through Muhammad as the UNADULTERATED word of God....Allah. Muhammad is ILLITERATE , receives the " revelations " in a dark cave with NO WITNESSES present. Muhammad thinks that he possessed by an EVIL SPIRIT but is convinced by a BLIND family member that it is Gabriel .

3- Muhammad has 13 wives , the youngest being Aisha. He " married " Aisha when she was SIX YEARS OLD and he was 51. He consummated the marriage when she was NINE YEARS OLD !!

4- The whole of the Quran is steeped in HATE and THREATS. Allah constantly refers to himself as WE , even though he claims he has no partners ( Satan and The Devil ) ??



My opinion : Satan and The Devil started their own religion ISLAM , as their last stand against Christ.
They knew their end was coming and they wanted to take with them , to ETERNAL DEATH , as many of Christ's children as possible. They utterly BRAINWASHED Muhammad and his followsrs and today we have 1 billion people following The Devil. As they say : The proof is in the pudding. Any time , any place , when your followers shout GOD IS GREAT , while killing another human being , you can be certain that they are " the spawn of The Devil " !!



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Why people love lying ?
You have zero knowledge about Quran .
You have zero knowledge about Mohammad .
You have zero knowledge about Islam .
Then you wrote a long list of lies.
My advice : even if you hate someone do not tell lies about him .it is the worst moral in man.

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You used the enemy websites to attack Islam , but look where their lies will lead you
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mchristos606 wrote:
When " debating " , you , and the majority of Muslims , have this nasty habit of constantly using the Bible as a " straw argument ". Why don't you defend the Quran as it should be defended ; " the Quran is the UNADULTERATED word of God " !!


And did you find in any of my answers I used the bible ?
Contrarily the members are complain because I am using the Quran , and they could not answer it

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As the UNADULTERATED and TRUE word of God , the Quran should have no problem showing that it is so , to any human being , if they just read it. After all , God should be able to make himself clear in his intentions.


You could not response any of my answers . therefore you attacked like a maniac.

mchristos606 wrote:
Mr. Gardian completely and totally exposed Islam and its true nature. I wouldn't even call Islam a religion because of its EVIL and HATEFUL nature. The proper term for Islam is.......an EVIL CULT !


Therefore the western people converted to Islam . because it is an evil cult [ as you claim] . they loved evil , and they loved blood … or is it the opposite .
They got sick from your way of life , they were looking for the peace and the truth .
And you must observe this :

In Each time the western Media attacks Islam , the opposite happened the Muslims are increasing and the brotherhood of Islam is expanding .
And about Mr.Pagan : he lies about God , it is not difficult for him to lie about anything else .

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Everything that Islam and the Quran stand for is ANATHEMA to Christ and his teachings. Mr. Gardian is correct not to believe in the OT " God " because that God is not any better than Allah. I disagree with Mr. Gardian as to the prophets. ...many were believers in God but some were better than others.


Are you sure about that :

Tell me where is the innocence of Mary from adultery at the bible ?

According to OT , and the God of OT . one of these statements are correct : Jesus was lying or the Christians were lying about his identity

1 If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder, 2 And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them; 3 Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul. 4 Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him.

This is the certain end for the false prophet
5 And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the LORD your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to thrust thee out of the way which the LORD thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the evil away from the midst of thee .

The Jews were able to kill the false prophet , and crucified him .


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Yahweh and Allah are both LIARS ,


Then Jesus is a lair , because he called him Allah . and he was praying to Allah , and he was worshiping Allah .

mchristos606 wrote:
as evident by their claim that the Great Flood happened. We are 1000 % certain that no such flood ever occured , as described in the OT and the Quran. While we know that the Bible is the work of men , and it precedes the Quran by at least 1200 years , why did Allah say that it happened ?


you do not know nothing about Quran … you using the people sayings without looking in the Quran .

1-Surah 11 [48. The word came: "O Noah! Come down (from the Ark) with peace from Us, and blessing on thee and on some of the peoples (who will spring) from those with thee: but (there will be other) peoples to whom We shall grant their pleasures (for a time), but in the end will a grievous penalty reach them from Us." ]
This means the flood was on the people of Noah only .

2-[44. Then the word went forth: "O earth! swallow up thy water, and O sky! Withhold (thy rain)!" and the water abated, and the matter was ended. The Ark rested on Mount Judi, and the word went forth: "Away with those who do wrong!" ]

The researches proved the ark of Noah rested on Mount Judi.


mchristos606 wrote:
WHO .........IS..........ALLAH ?

In the thread " The Lucifer rebellion " , we see that Lucifer , Satan and The Devil ( our Planetary Prince ) rebelled against Christ and his righteous rule. The final showdown occured on mount Hermon , when Christ , as a son of Man , withstood the onslaught of the rebels and defeated them.
Lucifer was immediately apprehended but Satan and The Devil were left free until such time when their cases are ajudicated.


Bla bla bla

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Time line of events :
1-2000 years ago Christ defeats the rebels. Satan and The Devil are left free due to judicial technicalities.


According to this version of bible , sure Jesus defeated Satan .. enjoy reading

Then Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil
Why this spirit led up Jesus into the wilderness ?
To be test by devil ? why ?
Is this test for God ?
And who force him to do this test ? did he force himself ? or there is a strong authority wants devil to test Jesus ?
Or did devil force the spirit to bring Jesus into wilderness ? and why ?
did devil make these tests to be sure that Jesus is son of God and the God is one ?
And these tests for the benefit of who ?
For the benefit of God or for the benefit of humankind or for the benefit of devil ?
If it was for the benefit of God : is God testing himself ?
If it was for the benefit of devil : devil did not know God the creator ? and what is the benefit ?
If it was for the benefit of all humankind : did humankind send Jesus by the spirit to the court by leadership of Devil at wilderness to make all necessary tests to be sure that Jesus the God in flesh is going to save people from sin ?

And devil did his mission which is : testing Jesus and in Different places to be sure about his claim , but Jesus refused all test by a different excuses .. which force devil to depart the court . and we sould wondering :

did Jesus refuse the test because he was sure that he is a god ? and it is unallowable for devil to test him , if it is like this , then why the spirit take him unto the wilderness to be tempted by the devil ?
Or did Jesus refuse the test ? because he knows that he is not a god , just a servant of God
And If Jesus was a real god :
Is the cursed devil dare to stand in front of him ? is it allowable to test God ? and by whom ? by devil !!!

And after fasting forty days and forty nights, he was hungry

Is god fasting ? why ? fasting is a worshipping . did god was worshipping ? and for who ?
Is God was worshipping himself ? or did the human Jesus is worshipping the god Jesus ?
What was the benefit of his fasting ?
To satisfy God ? then who is God ?
And if he did not fast : what will be the punishment ?
Is the godhead will Separated from the human and searching for a new man ?
Or God is not going to be satisfy on God ?
Or God going to enter God to hell ?
Is god become hungry ? and is God in need for food ?
If the human Jesus died : is the god Jesus going to die ? or is he going to search for another human instead of Jesus ?

“If you are the Son of God, command these stones to become loaves of bread.”

Is this a prove that Jesus is a god ? prophet Moses did thing greater than him and no one said he is a son of God or the God .

But he answered, “It is written, “‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes from the mouth of God.’”

Jesus said : the mouth of God , he did not say from my mouth . is this a proof that Jesus and God are not the same or both different ?

Then the devil took him to the holy city and set him on the pinnacle of the temple

The bible did not tell us : how did devil take Jesus to the holy city ?
Or did devil carry the God until they reach the holy city ?

and set him on the pinnacle of the temple

how Devil set the God on the pinnacle of the temple ?
did devil command God to set on the pinnacle of the temple ? and how Jesus be a god and obey devil's commands ?
or did devil force God to set on the pinnacle of the temple ?

and said to him, “If you are the Son of God, throw yourself down, for it is written, “‘He will command his angels concerning you,’ and “‘On their hands they will bear you up, lest you strike your foot against a stone.’”

actually Is it written ? or devil was taunt on God?And if it was written as Jesus affirmed [ Again ] then why Jesus did not throw himself down to achieve the written?
Jesus said to him, “Again it is written, ‘You shall not put the Lord your God to the test.’”
Supposing that Jesus said it : it does not mean that Jesus is the God . he did not say : do not test me " instead of that he said " You shall not put the Lord your God to the test " . so the test was for God not for Jesus is he going to save Jesus or Not ? therefore the answer of Jesus was : " You shall not put the Lord your God to the test "
Supposing that Jesus threw himself down : is this a proof that Jesus is the son of God or the God himself ?

the devil took him to a very high mountain
Is God hopeless to the extent that the devil is controlling him and taking him wherever he want ?
Devil has not control on people to take them here and there , is he has an authority on God ?
Is this acceptable on God ? where is the mind ? and what type of Gods is this god ?

and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory. And he said to him, “All these I will give you, if you will fall down and worship me.”

Is devil owns the kingdoms of the world and their glory ? therefore he requested from God to bow for him in return to give God the kingdoms
If Jesus was a god or a prophet or a normal man , he know that Devil does not own the world ,
therefore his offer was silly .
Or did Devil deceive God ? , and he made him think that devil is the God and if God fall down and worship him then he will give him the kingdoms of the world .

Then Jesus said to him, “Be gone, Satan! For it is written, “‘You shall worship the Lord your God and him only shall you serve.
at last Jesus wake up .
Jesus did not say : " Be gone, Satan! For . how God worship you ? "
And he did not say : Be gone, Satan! For . you shall worship the trinity
He said " it is written " which means before Jesus it has been written to one God to one lord you shall worship and him only shall you serve .


mchristos606 wrote:
2-600 years after Christ' s ascension , a " new religion " appears in the world. It is revealed through Muhammad as the UNADULTERATED word of God....Allah. Muhammad is ILLITERATE , receives the " revelations " in a dark cave with NO WITNESSES present. Muhammad thinks that he possessed by an EVIL SPIRIT but is convinced by a BLIND family member that it is Gabriel .


1- His witness is Allah the lord of Jesus , the God of Jesus , and Allah is enough .
[166. But Allah beareth witness that what He hath sent unto thee He hath sent from His (own) knowledge, and the angels bear witness: But enough is Allah for a witness. ] Surah 4


2- So let us see : is Allah inspired Mohammad ? or your weak claim ?
Before reading Quran : [98. When thou dost read the Qur'an, seek Allah.s protection from Satan the rejected one. ]
If any bad thoughts touch you : [200. If a suggestion from Satan assail thy (mind), seek refuge with Allah. for He heareth and knoweth (all things).]
Muslims in which side :[76. Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan: feeble indeed is the cunning of Satan.]

3- The evil fruits and the good fruits

Idols :
Christians are drawing images and putting idols inside the house of God .
Muslims are not drawing or putting any idols in the houses of God .
The result : Christians are following the evil one , and Muslims are worshipping Allah .

The wine :
Christians are drinking wine , while Jesus never put it in his mouth
Muslims are prohibiting wine , and they are the less nation upon the earth used this evil drink.
The result : Christians are following the evil one , and Muslims are worshipping Allah

The pork :
Christians are eating pork, while Jesus never put it in his mouth
Muslims never eat pork .
The result : Christians are following the evil one , and Muslims are worshipping Allah

The usury :
Christians allowed usury while it is profiting
Muslims prohibiting usury .
The result : Christians are following the evil one , and Muslims are worshipping Allah

Partners beside God :
Christians are worshipping : Jesus , Mary , the holy spirit , the priests
Muslims are worshipping one god , Allah the creator of heavens and earth , the god of Jesus .
The result : Christians are following the evil one , and Muslims are worshipping Allah.

Do you want me to speak about killing people by the name of Jesus ? I have no problem .

When you know your book come to speak about your book , and when you know Quran come to speak about Quran . you do not know nothing even about your religion .
My advice : ignore the priests and the churches , and use your mind while reading the bible .

mchristos606 wrote:
3- Muhammad has 13 wives , the youngest being Aisha. He " married " Aisha when she was SIX YEARS OLD and he was 51. He consummated the marriage when she was NINE YEARS OLD !!


I answered this several times .

mchristos606 wrote:
4- The whole of the Quran is steeped in HATE and THREATS. Allah constantly refers to himself as WE , even though he claims he has no partners ( Satan and The Devil ) ??


118. O ye who believe! Take not into your intimacy those outside your ranks: They will not fail to corrupt you. They only desire your ruin: Rank hatred has already appeared from their mouths: What their hearts conceal is far worse. We have made plain to you the Signs, if ye have wisdom..



mchristos606 wrote:
My opinion : Satan and The Devil started their own religion ISLAM , as their last stand against Christ. They knew their end was coming and they wanted to take with them , to ETERNAL DEATH , as many of Christ's children as possible. They utterly BRAINWASHED Muhammad and his followsrs and today we have 1 billion people following The Devil. As they say : The proof is in the pudding. Any time , any place , when your followers shout GOD IS GREAT , while killing another human being , you can be certain that they are " the spawn of The Devil " !!


All praise be to Allah
Allah's name in the bible .
Mohammad in the bible .
And Jesus the son of Mary is a Muslim .
and during his return he will rule by Islam .
And Muslims are the only nation fights the devil and his followers .
And we believe in all prophets . we never tell lies about them .
And the holy Quran is the only true book from Allah , after the Jews and the Christians corrupted these great books from Allah [ Torah and the gospel
and our prophet is the owner of the Station of Praise and Glory during the judgment day
and the nation of Mohammad is the first nation going to enter the paradise .
and Allah praise be to Allah until he satisfies and All Praise be to Allah after he satisfied : I am a Muslim .

Great … great … great ..

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The Quran is , without a doubt , a plagiarized version of the Bible. It tries to make itself legitimate by alligning itself with biblical description of events and then claiming that the Jews and Christians CORRUPTED its teachings. Hence it was necessary for God Allah to start a new religion whose followers would adhere to the " UNADULTERATED word of God " ...The Quran.

As I read the Quran , I was struck by how utterly EVIL its verses were. There is absolutely NO LOVE exhibited in the Quran and most of it is threats of burning in hell-fire if you don't obey :

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Sahih International- 4:56 -Indeed, those who disbelieve in Our verses - We will drive them into a Fire. Every time their skins are roasted through We will replace them with other skins so they may taste the punishment. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted in Might and Wise.



Notice the pure EVIL in the above verse !! Notice how Allah refers to himself as WE and he does that constantly throughout the Quran. ...Satan and The Devil ? Notice how he thinks that roasting people in the fire is wise !! Allah is NOT God.......He is a......DEMON !!


The EVIL character of Allah


Muslims claim that Christ didn't die on the cross !! Allah , apparently , replaced Christ with another person who was crucified in lieu of Christ. Let's examine the implications of such a claim :


1- According to Muslims , Muhammad was the last and GREATEST of all the prophets , including Christ. If so , why did Allah NOT save Muhammad !! Muhammad is DEAD , deader than a door nail , together with all the rest of the prophets. ....except Christ. It seems that Allah LOVED Christ more than Muhammad. ....or

2- Allah is a pathetic LIAR , who has no power to save anybody ! The BRAINWASHED and DELUSIONAL Muhammad paid the ultimate price for believing in Allah. ...ETERNAL DEATH !

3- Christ resurrected not because of Allah but because Christ's Father is the TRUE God. By the way , Christ NEVER mentioned either Yahweh or Allah as his Father !


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