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DanieltheDragon
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2014 6:05 pm  Does the bible outlaw gay marriage for non-believers? Reply with quote

I have read the bible up and down left and right. There are lots of things about abominations etc etc. What it doesn't say though is whether or not non-believers can have gay marriage. In fact the laws and commandments in the bible are specifically for the Jews. Jesus opened that up and through Paul's doctrine that became inclusive of the gentiles(those who were believers).


So question for debate does the bible outlaw gay marriage for non-believers?


Can anyone find a verse saying that non-believers cannot have gay marriage?
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Hello Daniel!! I hope all is well in your world.

I probably am not addressing the topic in the way in which you hoped, nonetheless, I feel I need a voice to my thoughts.

Nonbelievers are not held accountable to Biblical tenants, how could they be? If I was to work at Wendy's, I could not be held accountable to McDonald's protocols and practices. More importantly, I wish to state this: God thinks more highly of us than we do ourselves. This means that we are definitely worth more than our choices or lifestyles could ever be. Christianity has really done some huge damage in this area. For some reason we think that we have to have it all together first, and then we can approach the throne of His grace. God doesn't care as much about our messy lives and choices, as he does the condition of our hearts.

Rant over....Carry on!


I appreciate these thoughts Peds, when I was a believer I shared similar sentiments in that regard.

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The bible makes no comment about gay marriage but does say God will destroy (unrepentant) individuals that engage in sexual activities with members of the same gender.

JW

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The bible makes no comment about gay marriage but does say God will destroy (unrepentant) individuals that engage in sexual activities with members of the same gender.


Time and old age will do that too. It's not like entropy needs a god to make it work. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Post BBCode URL - Right click and save to clipboard to use later in post Post 24: Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:59 am
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The bible makes no comment about gay marriage but does say God will destroy (unrepentant) individuals that engage in sexual activities with members of the same gender.

JW


So there is no ostensible religious mandate to ban gay marriage for non believers?

After all as you say God will destroy them all the same,

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The Bible was written for mankind, it outlines God's requirements for humans. If one is human one is expected to respect the standards of the supreme ruler of the universe.

He will however judge mercifully

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As you say though the bible makes no comment on the matter

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Not directly that is correct.

Of course Jesus Referred to marriage only legitimately being between a man and a woman, and we know the bible condems sexual activity between members of the same gender. And we know God will destroy unrepentant fornication, including that same sex and other perversions, but on the specific matter of homosexual marriage it makes no comment.

JW

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The bible makes no comment about gay marriage but does say God will destroy (unrepentant) individuals that engage in sexual activities with members of the same gender.

JW



On the surface I guess I can agree to this, but I'm fairly confident that you would agree that it goes without saying (but I'm going to say it anyways) that God's comments necessarily apply to gay marriage. I'm not saying that you're doing this, but anyone who thinks that they can build an argument to justify gay marriage based on the fact that God's comments against homosexual intercourse aren't explicitly mentioned within the context of gay marriage is really no different than the argument that theft, false witness, coveting are also not mentioned within the context of marriage either so they are essentially using marriage as some sort of loophole, no? If we can get married then anything goes.

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To me, God's Law is universal. That means believers and non-believers are under the Law. Whatever one does will be judged accordingly.

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So question for debate does the bible outlaw gay marriage for non-believers?


Uuummm . . . are non believers subject to the moral law? Do non believers believe all men should not steal, kill, commit adultery, have sex with animals?

Christians do not believe gay marriage is immoral because the Bible says it is, rather the Bible declares the immorality of same sex unions because it is immoral.

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