Why Mohammed told He was the last prophet?

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Why Mohammed told He was the last prophet?

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Rohit: Swami! In Quran, it is stated that Mohammed is not father of any one.
Further it is stated there that He is the last Prophet sent by God.
What is the inner meaning of this, if this verse is genuine statement?
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Swami: Oh Rohit! You have picked up very crucial concept of spirituality.
This statement is original and therefore it entered your mind.
The inner meaning of this verse is based on the angle, which you take
For the word Mohammed, here the word Mohammed stands only
For the external human form and not the internal eternal God.
Islam does not agree to the concept of human incarnation.

When Bible says the word Jesus, it means the internal eternal God.
When the Gita says Krishna, He means the same eternal God.
Because both Christianity and Hinduism believe God in flesh.
We need not criticise Islam for not believing Human Incarnation,
Because the main idea is that there is always misuse of this concept.
The human beings claim themselves as human incarnations.
Every human being following the philosophy of Advaita in Hinduism
Feels that it is the Lord, this is very dangerous extrapolation.
Even devils and demons claimed themselves as eternal God
By doing certain miracles after achieving some super powers.

All these dangerous misleading cases harm the devotees.
In the name of idol worship also, priests have exploited devotees.
They keep idols in front and rob the wealth of devotees.
To avoid all these misleading misused concepts, Islam sorted
To the worship of formless aspect of God, we appreciate this.
But because of misuses we cannot deny basic system itself.
If copying is happening, it should be arrested by taking care.
We cannot cancel the very examination system for the fear of
This misuse, we are not avoiding the journey by buses and trains
Due to possibility of accidents, the human incarnation is important.

That is the only path to reach God as said by Jesus because
The human beings approach God only through human form.
The devotees can get full satisfaction and full guidance only
From the human incarnation and not from any other form of God.
Of course, if you fear for the exploitation of this concept here,
It is better to stick to formless God or God through statues.
But you should be prepared for the disadvantages in the above ways.
You will also loose the golden chance provided by God for your sake.

Yet, Islam should be appreciated because avoiding danger is good.
Such decision was taken by Islam depending on the circumstances
And the atmosphere prevailed over the society during the time of Mohammed.
We should understand the religion from the point of the circumstances
And the environment that existed during the propagation at that time.

But now the scientific logical analysis is well developed and one need not fear
For the exploitation by the false human incarnations who can be easily
Identified, so you should not avoid the system in the present circumstances.
Islam is not a new concept to the Hinduism because in Hinduism
The philosophy of Madhva says the same and preaches that the Lord
Can never become the human being nor vice versa and this is also stated
By Jesus when He told that He was the Messenger sent by God.

Thus Islam agrees with Hinduism and Christianity in its basic concept.
Mohammed told that He was the last prophet because He did not like
Another false human incarnation to come and mislead and exploit the mass.
It is only to avoid the danger of exploitation of cunning human beings.

What is the reason for Islam not to accept the human incarnation?
Even Mohammed said that He was only the servant of God and He did not claim
Himself as the human incarnation, even though He Himself knows the truth
That He is the God in Flesh like Buddha or Krishna or Jesus.
This reason enlightens the greatness of Islam Religion, the reason is that
Once a real human incarnation is accepted, several fraud human incarnations
Claim themselves as God and mislead the spiritual aspirants for their selfish ends.

In fact such concept was so much polluted and got so much diluted
So that every human being started thinking that he himself is God.
In Hinduism this misinterpretation rules the minds of several people
Even today and most people think “Aham Brahmaasmi”, which means
“I am God”, people say that service to human beings is service to God
Because every human being is God only, Sankara condemned this concept

Which was a religion called Loka Sevaka Matam, when Jesus was worshipped
By a lady who was using some special scent to wash His divine lotus feet,
A disciple told that the cost of the scent could have been used to serve the beggars
The disciple thought that service to society is better than the personal service
Of the Lord, but Jesus immediately replied, “Let her do this service, beggars
Are always present in this world but I come rarely to this world”, this shows
That the Lord is far greater than the society and the social service is valid only
When the Lord gives permission to do so, because the saviour is the Lord
And not the society, thus the background of Islam should be properly understood.

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Welcome dattaswami,

Two things...seems like this isn't directly related to Christianity
(probably belongs in the other religions section) and a clear
question is not evident. You are more likely to get a good debate
going if you have a straightforward question...then dive in

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Chimp wrote:Welcome dattaswami,

Two things...seems like this isn't directly related to Christianity
(probably belongs in the other religions section) and a clear
question is not evident. You are more likely to get a good debate
going if you have a straightforward question...then dive in

Chimp;

The driving point is the preachings of Prophet Mohammed, Lord Jesus and Lord Krishna are one and the same. Shri datta swamiji correlated whatever was told by them at respective times. These three prophets are the three forms of the same Lord who have come in human form for preaching the divine knowledge. In the case of Lord in human form two items are there, Human body and then Lord residing in that.
Ex: Jesus told that He will come again. It means that the Human Incarnation will come again and again in every generation in order to avoid the partiality. i.e., He will take once again human body and will come and preach us. Jesus is referring to the internal eternal God in His above statement.

Mohammed told that He is the last Prophet sent by God. Here the word Mohammed stands only for the external human form and not the internal eternal God. He told like that because Islam does not agree the concept of human incarnation(Lord in human form). Even today Mohammed is treated as prophet only. Krishna says that He will come to this earth whenever the spirituality and justice are disturbed. Krishna refers to internal eternal Lord and He told like that because Hindus accept human incarnation (Lord in human form).

But so far never Jesus came in the same form and never Krishna came in the same form. He comes in human form only and not in the same form i.e., shape, height etc which are external qualities of human body only. Scriptures have to be studied with inner meanings. Human beings cannot understand the inner meanings. That is why Lord told that He will come again and again to preach us. When the human incarnation dies, the human body is destroyed but the internal God remains eternal and He is not destroyed with the body. The electricity can be withdrawn from the wire but as long as the current flows the electric wire is treated as current for all practical purposes, no other way. The current cannot be experienced directly, it can be experienced only through the wire and so it is inevitable to treat the current as wire itself. Therefore, there is no contradiction between Hinduism and Christianity with Islam.

When scriptures are being explained with such clarity, many times we are not able to understand. Then how come all the individual human beings can be Prophets? It is very absurd.

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Chimp wrote:Welcome dattaswami,

Two things...seems like this isn't directly related to Christianity
(probably belongs in the other religions section) and a clear
question is not evident. You are more likely to get a good debate
going if you have a straightforward question...then dive in

Chimp;

The driving point is the preachings of Prophet Mohammed, Lord Jesus and Lord Krishna are one and the same. Shri datta swamiji correlated whatever was told by them at respective times. These three prophets are the three forms of the same Lord who have come in human form for preaching the divine knowledge. In the case of Lord in human form two items are there, Human body and then Lord residing in that.
Ex: Jesus told that He will come again. It means that the Human Incarnation will come again and again in every generation in order to avoid the partiality. i.e., He will take once again human body and will come and preach us. Jesus is referring to the internal eternal God in His above statement.

Mohammed told that He is the last Prophet sent by God. Here the word Mohammed stands only for the external human form and not the internal eternal God. He told like that because Islam does not agree the concept of human incarnation(Lord in human form). Even today Mohammed is treated as prophet only. Krishna says that He will come to this earth whenever the spirituality and justice are disturbed. Krishna refers to internal eternal Lord and He told like that because Hindus accept human incarnation (Lord in human form).

But so far never Jesus came in the same form and never Krishna came in the same form. He comes in human form only and not in the same form i.e., shape, height etc which are external qualities of human body only. Scriptures have to be studied with inner meanings. Human beings cannot understand the inner meanings. That is why Lord told that He will come again and again to preach us. When the human incarnation dies, the human body is destroyed but the internal God remains eternal and He is not destroyed with the body. The electricity can be withdrawn from the wire but as long as the current flows the electric wire is treated as current for all practical purposes, no other way. The current cannot be experienced directly, it can be experienced only through the wire and so it is inevitable to treat the current as wire itself. Therefore, there is no contradiction between Hinduism and Christianity with Islam.

When scriptures are being explained with such clarity, many times we are not able to understand. Then how come all the individual human beings can be Prophets? It is very absurd.

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Anil Antony

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dattaswami wrote: Tue Jan 31, 2006 10:09 pm Therefore, there is no contradiction between Hinduism and Christianity with Islam.
🐊Hinduism was invented by the british christians, while Islam seems to me little more than christianity in green color🕋
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The Nice Centurion wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2024 1:25 am Hinduism was invented by the british christians...
Why do you think so?

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