What did Jesus look like?

[DanieltheDragon]

Can anyone describe what Jesus looked like? Height hair color eye color face shape?

It seems people had trouble recognizing him even in the gospels after he was resurrected.

How do we rule out that people were not impersonating Jesus after he died?

[Tcg]

[Replying to Tcg in post #29]

And the images I posted were from the 2nd century AD found in the Roman catacombs. Clearly a black Jesus. Even the pope is seen bowing to some image of a dark woman and baby boy in her hand. That man you posted looks Hindu. The Israelites are similar to the Hamites according to God's word.

How exactly are you able to determine a person's religion based on their looks?


Tcg

[otseng]

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Just say you don't have a clue and keep it pushing.

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[Avoice]

[Replying to DanieltheDragon in post #1]

Surely you don't believe someone has this answer.
Do you?

[collin88x]

[Replying to Tcg in post #31]

Sir, the Israelites are not a religion. They are a bloodline, a race of people. Religion honestly has nothing to do with them. Jacob was born, God chose Jacob, he wanted Jacobs bloodline (the Israelites) to rule the earth according to his will (Dueteronomy 7:6-8, Isaiah 14:1-2)

God made a covenant (contract) with the bloodline of Israel to be their God and them his people. He has not dealt so with any other race on the face of earth, only the Israelites (Amos 9:1-2, psalms 147:19-20)

To keep it simple the Hebrew Israelites are the royal bloodline family in the earth and hand picked by God himself to rule all nations.

However they struggled with the covenant and didn't hold up their end of the deal so God had to curse the bloodline and strip their power once the Israelite kingdom was established, after 70 years or so, he began to slow start cursing the nation due to sin against the covenant.

(The other races were never judged by the 10 commandments and commandments of God, only Israel) even today... Only Israel are under a covenant with God. The other nations however? Are judged based on how they treat the Israelites, as God has declared bless those who bless Israel and curse those who curse Israel, and attempt to or actually execute, a violent or wicked attack or schemes against the Israelites.

A few nations are guilty of this and when God gives the kingdom over to the remnant of the bloodline of Israel that are saved in Christ? Those nations judgments will be captivity in the hands of the redeemed Israelites. (It's only fair) because the Israelites is a race of people that have suffered worse then any other race on earth. This said the Lord. What would happen to them is the worse under the sun.

But my point is Israel is a nation, a bloodline. Not a religion.

Do not listen to folks involved with "Judaism". THAT...is a religion and many practices are contrary to the word of God.

Like for example Judaism says you're a Jew based on your mother.

The Torah says an Israelite is declared an Israelite (their pedigree is the biblical term) based on the house of their fathers.

Judaism opposes teachings of Christ. Yet Judaism don't sacrafice animals for forgiveness of sins which was the old covenant between God and Israel.

No sacrafice? No forgiveness. Period. So any one claiming to be a Jew? And rejecting Christ are some seriously ignorant and lost individuals and have no understanding whatsoever of what's truly going on.

Now the name Israel means "he is a prince of power (son of God) with God and though he wrestles with God? With men (all nations outside of Israel) he has prevailed".

Meaning God chose Israel to be his son. (Prince of power) to rule the earth. However him and God don't always see eye to eye, and they have not been the best they can be in his eyes. They have done much wickedness but they are locked into a covenant with eachother. And in the end they will prevail and inherit the earth.

That's the Israelites in a nutshell.

Now before I conclude I want to state this fact. The term JEW only applies to just 3 tribes of the nation of Israel.

A Jew is an Israelite by blood but not all blood Israelites are Jews.

A Jew comes from Israelites under the southern kingdoms banner. Because there was a great split in Israel that separated the nation into 2 nations and 2 kingdoms.

Judah was the patriarchal tribe of all Israel but during the split was the patriarchal tribe of their kingdom which was the southern kingdom and control over Jerusalem, the capital.

The term Jew comes from Judah (Jew-Dah)
It's a nickname or short for Judah.

Judah's kingdom only consisted of Judah, Benjamin and Levi.

Those 3 tribes EXCLUSIVELY we're known as "Jews".

The other 9 tribes were never regarded as Jews, in fact at one point after Hosea 1. They weren't even regarded as Israelites anymore, period because God had cut them off from the old covenant, while remaining with the Jews which he would bring Christ through whose mission in a nutshell was to bring in a new covenant that would allow forgiveness for all of israels sins and allow those Israelites removed from the old covenant and relationship with God? To be "grafted" back in to the family inheritance of being an Israelite that serves God.

Romans 9:1-5. The adoption (grafting in) belonged always to the Israelites, (never all people)

When you see Jews and Gentiles like Paul stated in Romans 9 also? Many are misinformed and believe it's referring to Israelites vs non blood related Israelites (real gentiles)

But that's ignorant statements. Because Jew never represented all 12 tribes of Israel, only the 3 in their kingdom were acknowledged as Jews.

And like I mentioned the other 9 weren't even regarded as Israelites after God cut them off from the old covenant.

He declared them no more his people. (That portion) remember they were split into 2 nations. So God's like on you want to go off and do your own thing and now you're primarily worshipping idols too now? Ok. You will no more be my people and I no more your God
(Hosea 1)

But I will remain with the kingdom of Judah (the Jews) and save them but not by war. (By Christ)

So for centuries before Christ and during the time of Christ you had Israelites not being regarded as Israelites , you also had "hellinized Jews" too of the Judah sect that suffered during the rise of the Greeks and became pretty much Greek themselves spiritually. This is where you get the term "neither Jew nor Greek" for you are all one in Jesus.

It's referring to hellinized Jews that became Greek traditionally and culturally and fell away from the covenant with God.

The "gentiles" Paul was referring to towards the end of Romans 9 were actually Israelites of the northern kingdom (Ephraim, the son of Joseph, his tribe became patriarchal tribe of the 9 tribes of the northern kingdom of Israel, aka the Kingdom of Israel or "children of Israel" (post split)

They were not regarded as Israelites or God's people though technically they were blood born. But that's why come the new testament, Israelites are regarded with names of other nations. Like the woman of Canaan Christ was ignoring originally saying he is only sent to the lost sheep of Israel (Matthew 15:24)

She was an Israelite of the northern kingdom. Who still believes and feared God.

The woman at the well the Samaritan woman (Samaria was capital of northern Israel, and the place of worship for the northern kingdom Israelites, Samaritan's were Israelites) She was shocked Christ being a Jew spoke to her because they didn't feel with eachother (Jews and the northern kingdom Israelites after God cut them off)

Cornelious was a Roman centurion (he had Roman CITIZENSHIP, but he was not a blood related Roman Italian. He was an Israelite of the northern kingdom. Who has lost his name of Israel with God because of his ancestors sins. But by his time? It was officially time for the Jews to go and fetch the rest of Israel with the new covenant and gospel (gospel means "good news" and it was great news to the remnant of the northern kingdom Israelites who still loved God and deserved a second chance. To be grafted back in.

The branch broke in the old covenant but in Christ was allowed to be sewed back up.

That's all Christ was was a healer of the nation of Israel. Israel was split. Christ was the sew and tied them all back together in a new covenant between God and Israel that allowed all sins even idolatry to be forgiven and did away with the death penalty capital punishment for certain sins now only God can kill an Israelite based on them not taking the covenant serious.

There is no more animal sacrafice neither. That was fulfilled through Christ sacrafice. He is the mediator between God and Israel.

God declared in Romans 9 not all Israel are Israel. Just because they're born an Israelite doesn't mean they automatically inherit the kingdom when it comes for Israel.

An Israelite who isn't in Christ and trying to practice the ways of God and his will? Are regarded as gentiles.

Only a remnant will inherit the kingdom of God.

For the record all nations will ge in the Kingdom of God's but Israel will run it and govern all nations and with a rod of iron I might add. According to Christ's word. There won't be a democracy anymore.

It'll be a one world government and order Christ and the Israelites ruling and governing in righteousness all nations.

So In conclusion.... Israel is not a religion they are a people chosen by God to rule the earth and all nations in it.

So now we need to figure out exactly who they are today. And figuring out the color is the first step. And many clues point to them indeed being black. Aka Negroes. not Arabs, or "middle eastern" Arabs, definitely not any type of Caucasian (so don't even look at the so called "Jewish" today. They're out, not even close)

The Israelites physically have been compared to Hamites which are native African dark races.

Now what race of people today? Historically? Can be compared to native dark skinned Africans but also has a history of being transported as slaves on slave ships to be auctioned off to another race? And scattered all over earth?

It's a simple answer.

So yes, negroes (Hispanics too) will rule the earth with Christ when Christ returns. And will be set back in their own land of Israel.

2 Esdras 6:7-10

7 "Then answered I and said, What shall be the parting asunder of the times? or when shall be the end of the first, and the beginning of it that followeth?

8 And he said unto me, From Abraham unto Isaac, when Jacob and Esau were born of him, Jacob's hand held first the heel of Esau.

9 For Esau (the Edomites) is the end of the world, and Jacob (the Israelites) is the beginning of it that followeth.

10 The hand of man (all nations) is betwixt the heel and the hand: other question, Esdras, ask thou not."

In a nutshell Edom and Israel have been fighting for rulership over earth since the womb (Genesis 25)
But rightfully it belongs to Israel.

Edom is the forefather of the Greeks/roman-italians/Caucasians.

Israel is the forefather of "blacks" who descend of the trans Atlantic slave trade 1600s, and the native American Indian/Hispanic nations.

[Tcg]

[Replying to Tcg in post #31]

Sir, the Israelites are not a religion. They are a bloodline, a race of people.

I wasn't referring to the Israelites. You stated that the image I posted looks like a Hindu. I am asking how you can determine someone's religion based on their looks. Hinduism is a religion not an ethnic classification.


Tcg

[Inquirer]

Can anyone describe what Jesus looked like? Height hair color eye color face shape?

It seems people had trouble recognizing him even in the gospels after he was resurrected.

How do we rule out that people were not impersonating Jesus after he died?

I doubt he had long hair. That tradition has no basis in fact either, and Roman statues from the period never show men having long hair, not to mention the NT itself:

Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him.

[otseng]

Tell me you're lazy without telling you're lazy.
But you're too lazy to even get passed paragraph one. But on a debating site wanting to be lazy.
Just say you don't have a clue and keep it pushing.

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[collin88x]

[Replying to Tcg in post #35]

My apologies I meant east Indian. You're right Hindu is a religion. Which primarily east Indians are apart of however.