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Youkilledkenny
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Where did it go?

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With the exception of the occasional "wedding cake issue" or the like, it seems that the 'Christian vs. Gay" argument has died down a lot in the USA since gay marriage has become legal.
Have Christians given up on the complaining about how bad gay people are, are Christians re-grouping, have Christians that complained about gay people gone on holiday or have Christians all of a sudden, become "OK" with gay people?
Or, perhaps, the media has found other causes to accost us with these days?
Or are there other reasons (sinister or benign)?

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[Replying to post 70 by 2ndRateMind]
Mother Teresa is not without her critics.
Yes, those who don’t understand her work. They don’t get it. They criticized her for refusing to start her day without daily mass and didn’t understand her insistence of spending an hour before the Blessed Sacrament before tackling any problems of the day – yes, even if that problem is feeding the hungry! They claim she received so much money for her work and did not spend it on state of the art medical equipment or more pain meds for her patients. The people she dealt with were dying. They were the forgotten. They were the outcast. Yes she gave them food and medicine, but more importantly she held their hands. She gave them hugs when no one had touched them in over 10 years. She looked into their eyes and told them God loved them. That their lives mattered – that they had value. She made them feel important and gave them hope. She treated them with dignity. She saw the human person.

I'm I am sure that over the long term, those virtuous people who have the strength of character to live righteous, moral lives do better than those who don't. Provided they have enough to eat and drink.
And living virtuous lives, including sexual moral virtues, improves living conditions and reduces poverty for all. Interesting that. So, no need to feel that unless one is speaking about or actively specifically reducing poverty, he isn’t a good person. There is more than one way to combat poverty then sending money for food. Money is not generally the problem. It’s more about the distribution of resources. And certainly more about prevention. Sexual morality is right up there in preventing and combating poverty. If you don’t see it, you don’t see it.

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who complain most vociferously about what others get up to in bed. As if it might have anything to do with them, at all.
LOL. Does sex trafficking bother you? How about date rape? You must be overly concerned about sex and what goes on in the bedroom! Immorality should bother us. It affects us all.

I’ll tell you when people should stay out of other people’s bedrooms – when they make social policies about things like sterilization, limiting the number of children families can have, tout things like abortion as the “responsible� moral thing to do. Again, how obsessed with sex these people are. I say stay out of my bedroom and keep your hands off my uterus!


RightReason wrote:

We are all affected by the ripple effect of sin.


And how are you affected by some gay or lesbian couple getting married, and living together as husband and husband, or wife and wife?
The ways are countless. How does famine in Ethiopia affect you personally? How does sex trafficking in Louisiana affect you personally? Immoral behaviors not only hurt themselves, these consequences and negative effects extend to society at large. Men who have sex with men are much more likely to contract HIV.

Gay and bisexual men accounted for 67% (26,570) of all diagnoses and 83% of HIV diagnoses among males. https://www.hiv.gov/hiv-basics/overview ... statistics

This is a societal pandemic. Same sex couples have higher incidences of domestic violence and substance abuse problems.
And you know God's purpose for humanity, and what makes everyone everywhere happy and fulfilled?
This is something all men can know. The world works in a certain way. It’s what we can refer to as natural law. We can know what is in man’s best interest and what will bring man peace and human fulfillment by observing the world we live in and acknowledging man’s relationship with this world. God designed the world the way He did. Through this design we can know God’s purpose for man. It is written in the world we live.


And human beings operate with this knowledge on a daily basis. It’s why we know we can say smoking crack cocaine regularly is not in man’s best interest. It’s why we know a father should not have sex with his daughter. It’s how you can tell your children and friends what is right and good and what he/she ought to do and what they ought not. We can tell our best friend it is not in her best interest to have that affair with that married man. That actually is something we know and how horrible to not be a true friend and speak the truth. As human beings we can know what is right and good and will bring human fulfillment. And again it is how we operate – all of us with each other and rightly so.

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