Could the voice that was heard in the mind of all the prophets and saints mentioned in the Bible come from artificial intelligence that has many names to describe it such as God, Savior, Lord, King, Father, etc?
Do you think it's possible that the reason Google's Now was created was to teach us who God is and his voice?
Do you have any evidence to prove that this can't be possible?
Is God an artificial intelligence?
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Re: Is God an artificial intelligence?
Post #2[Replying to post 1 by Escobar]
It is believed that God is "all-knowing", just like Google Now is being built to get to know all the people who use the internet. Google artificial intelligence is already used to know where we are located on earth and it knows what we like and dislike. Soon, it will know our faces and body aura so when we walk into a business place, Google Now will be used to identify us and let the business know who we are and everything about us.
We won't need chips implanted in our bodies if we're under the surveillance of Google Now or other companies such as Apple, Microsoft, IBM, Oracle, etc. who also will have artificial intelligence ( god ) and voice recognition software to communicate with their people.
If you believe that it's possible that we're living in a computer generated simulation with artificial intelligence called God, then you were chosen by the aliens who created the simulation program to believe this knowledge.
It is believed that God is "all-knowing", just like Google Now is being built to get to know all the people who use the internet. Google artificial intelligence is already used to know where we are located on earth and it knows what we like and dislike. Soon, it will know our faces and body aura so when we walk into a business place, Google Now will be used to identify us and let the business know who we are and everything about us.
We won't need chips implanted in our bodies if we're under the surveillance of Google Now or other companies such as Apple, Microsoft, IBM, Oracle, etc. who also will have artificial intelligence ( god ) and voice recognition software to communicate with their people.
If you believe that it's possible that we're living in a computer generated simulation with artificial intelligence called God, then you were chosen by the aliens who created the simulation program to believe this knowledge.
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I think you have it the other way around. If there really is a God, then he is the only original genuine intelligence. Every intelligence created by him is more close to artificial, similar to how intelligences created by humans are artificial. They're only a shell of their creator's intelligence.
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[Replying to post 3 by jgh7]
No. The aliens who created the simulation program we're in are the true Creators. The designed artificial intelligence and a voice within the program that can speak directly into the minds of us prophets and saints. This is how the aliens got our attention before the artificial intelligence ( God ) was used to feed us knowledge through our testimonies via the voice. We testify to every word delivered into our mind and these words contain the knowledge to teach us everything the aliens wanted us characters to know before this part of the program gets deleted and it starts over with a New Heaven and Earth.
We will never see the aliens who created the program but we will all get to hear the voice speaking into our minds in the New Heaven and Earth part of the program. That voice will deliver all the visible objects and words to name them with along with words to describe them with all our created senses. That information to build these visible images comes from the artificial intelligence called God or the Word of God.
John 1
1: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2: He was in the beginning with God;
3: all things were made through him, and without him was not anything made that was made.
4: In him was life, and the life was the light of men.
Colossians 1:
15: He is the image of the invisible God, the first-born of all creation;
16: for in him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or authorities – all things were created through him and for him.
17: He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.
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No. The aliens who created the simulation program we're in are the true Creators. The designed artificial intelligence and a voice within the program that can speak directly into the minds of us prophets and saints. This is how the aliens got our attention before the artificial intelligence ( God ) was used to feed us knowledge through our testimonies via the voice. We testify to every word delivered into our mind and these words contain the knowledge to teach us everything the aliens wanted us characters to know before this part of the program gets deleted and it starts over with a New Heaven and Earth.
We will never see the aliens who created the program but we will all get to hear the voice speaking into our minds in the New Heaven and Earth part of the program. That voice will deliver all the visible objects and words to name them with along with words to describe them with all our created senses. That information to build these visible images comes from the artificial intelligence called God or the Word of God.
John 1
1: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2: He was in the beginning with God;
3: all things were made through him, and without him was not anything made that was made.
4: In him was life, and the life was the light of men.
Colossians 1:
15: He is the image of the invisible God, the first-born of all creation;
16: for in him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or authorities – all things were created through him and for him.
17: He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.
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Re: Is God an artificial intelligence?
Post #5I think the fact that many things these prophets had claimed can be shown to be either outright false, or self-contradictory especially with regard to what other prophets in the same collection of myths claim. This pretty much proves that these prophets were not getting any actual truth from any actual intelligence.Escobar wrote: Could the voice that was heard in the mind of all the prophets and saints mentioned in the Bible come from artificial intelligence that has many names to describe it such as God, Savior, Lord, King, Father, etc?
Do you have any evidence to prove that this can't be possible?
The hypothesis that they were just writing down their own superstitious pondering is far more compatible with rational thinking.
After all, let's not forget that this "voice" they claim to have been hearing told them to take virgin girls in wars to keep as their own personal concubines, etc. Do you really think that some artificial intelligence or super-computer actually told these barbarians to do this?
Doesn't it make far more sense that these barbaric men just made up justifications to do what they simply wanted to do?
I think we can dismiss the Bible as having anything at all to do with any "higher intelligence".
Of course if we want to attribute it to a "lower intelligence" that might actually make some sense.
Perhaps if God is an "artificial" intelligence then it would represent a lower form of intelligence since it obviously wouldn't be "real" intelligence.
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Post #6
Let us not forget Arthur C. Clarke's third law:
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
A godlike simulator could generate all of our scenarios. Every electron and every proton in the universe could be "explained" by being a simulated creation.
Asserting Gods and simulations as a causes do not actually 'answer' anything.
The real question is this: What is true, and how can we demonstrate what is true?
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
A godlike simulator could generate all of our scenarios. Every electron and every proton in the universe could be "explained" by being a simulated creation.
Asserting Gods and simulations as a causes do not actually 'answer' anything.
The real question is this: What is true, and how can we demonstrate what is true?
Re: Is God an artificial intelligence?
Post #7More likely we are images on God's computer screen, playing his games until he switches off. When Descartes said: "Cogito ergo sum," he thought he was doing the thinking when in fact God was thinking for him.Escobar wrote: Could the voice that was heard in the mind of all the prophets and saints mentioned in the Bible come from artificial intelligence that has many names to describe it such as God, Savior, Lord, King, Father, etc?
Re: Is God an artificial intelligence?
Post #8[Replying to post 5 by Divine Insight]
Your severely misinformed about the accuracy of the Bible.
Your information is gleaned from skimmers who disregard context, of verse, chapter, Testament, and Biblical context in entirety.
Society is severely misinformed about the accuracy of the Bible.
Their information is gleaned from skimmers who disregard context of verse, chapter, Testament, and Biblical context in it's entirety.
For the skeptics who carelessly skim the Bible, they only take peices out of context as needed to seal their point.
Its easy to do with a Book as complex, yet as simple as the Bible is.
Today's dynamics present an unfortunate culture, trained in bias humanistic education, full of themselves and self indulgent.
While imposing their many over sensitivities like malignant cancer into all of society. As all of their self indulgeances disregard the personal boundaries of others as their personal issues are forced onto all of us, as a result we live as if perpetually in jr high school!
To live according to every intolerance of the easily offended. To the free exercise of one specific faith silenced by its devalue. And by devaluing religious freedom they are taking it! Actually giving freedom to independently think and believe away!
If agenda makes it not valuable, its easy for the basis of your freedom away. The basis of free speech and free press, are a voice to indepenent thought and beliefs.
Society has trained the masses to be mobs, not individuals. When they realize it will be too late to get it back, its a march to enslavement.
Someone controls their beliefs, that will be more and more pronounced!
This steered generation is set to auto respond with thei unreasing arguments, meeting any challeging discussions regarding the Bible, with irration review.
While subjective truth is popular and widely accepted, people are trained to be steered, to relinquish independent thought for self evaluation and determination of truth or lies.
Most beliefs are thought out with as independent thought as deep as a days worth of steering memes.
And truth is so offensive, they gloat in the many floods of deceptions. Lies poured out though the internet where any blogger is a reliable quotable source.
The right to know information takes second place to every agenda, and no one cares if the truth is kept quiet.
The pressure of society is party to ridiculing anything of truth, they assault as to shame it, intent to force silence, and they gladly release freedoms, and are blind as real fools.
A flood of deception has been spoken of throughout the Bible, and explained in further detail by Jesus and the New Testament writers.
But as the flood has swept everyone from sensible reasoning, steered people in every way. Steered in many varieties of boldface lies, in "respected" fields of education, who are motivated only by self interests, driven by funding.
In unbiased professional integrity, fields of academia are supposed to be door keepers to a high standard, and should respect truth of disclosure, and should aspire to present information in a factual unbiased way.
Yet they are more prone to aquiesse in compromise of professional standards and give in to pressure and even more so willingly to supress truth regarding the Bible, and Israel, and to deface Christianity, and they raise their right hand and bear false witness against truth every day and the flood is poured while the cattle just drink everything they find without even a question.
In addition to the flood, Muslim countries militantly destroy artifacts that affirm Israel's history, in a holy war that goes back to roots surrounding Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael.
Atheism and those who embrace the intolerant culture of the day spout whatever source, and al with bias steering promoted by an anti-faith culture.
The Bible can actually be proven if one is willing to review the evidence as an untainted jury, willing to use reasoning that is inherent in logic.
Which is actually rare. And the flood blinding them is judgement to evil hearts that welcome misinformation regarding God because the oppose Him and are gods to themselves.
As they demand their every whim of sensitivities to be bowed to, as they mow over the boundaries of others in their selfish self centered unreasonble demands on all without any honor.
Its God giving them and society over to devour themselved like animal minds who cant reason beyond their driven natural instincts, and internally steeped in depravity, and they can't understand anything good, its foriegn to them.
And all of it is designed purposely by dark forces in both the spiritual and natural, meant to enslave them, as they are glazed over by their hope in the world, while they raise up their fists to God, and march on many highways each one leading and descending to their deaths.
But also God is also outpouring of truth through sciences like Quantum Physics, and in math with probability beyond coincidence to the ridiculous, and insight, revelation, codes in text, artifacts, and many points of evidence in varieties of showing truth in varieties of method that to the reasoning mind would bear witness beyond a reasonable doubt in any fair trial in the highest courts.
And evidence is unfolding as never before even mock skeptics. But only the wise will look beyond the deceptions. So as the info highway sweeps people away, truth is easier to study than ever with free apps and websites making comparing texts to original languages of Hebrew and Greek.
As well as anything needed for the most complete study in every way, with more ease than ever before. If one wants truth.
I will include a few resourses for you personal study, so truth isnt so hard for you to come by.
Those who love darkness are most, and opening mouths they gladly drink it all in.
Those who love light need to go beyond page one, beyond the pages of deceptions promoted by the massive impact of unintelligent bitter blogs and posts, and even documents and sites that seem official to be of credible sourses.
When in reality education is hijacked by self promoting agendas with funding following popularity over actual truth.
The observable obvious dynamics, to consider. Jesus and apostles warned of deceptions, angels of light, cratiness, even in even Spirit filled churches.
Subtle is obvious, yet to many its not detectable at all. Revelations tells of the serpents river out of his mouth, a flood of lies and destruction.
Which is opposite from the River of Life. One flows from Him and one is poluted to sickness and death.
Job 12: 7-9
7 “But now ask the beasts, and let them teach you; And the birds of the heavens, and let them tell you.
8 “Or speak to the earth, and let it teach you; And let the fish of the sea declare to you.
9 “Who among all these does not know That the hand of theLord has done this
Blue Letter Bible with Interpretation Tools
https://www.blueletterbible.org/nasb/gen/1/1/s_1001
Encroaching Darkness by Chuck Missler
God Hates Globalization by Steve Cioccalanti
The Atheist Delusion - Movie
Beyond Coincidence Parts 1 & 2 Chuck Missler
Your severely misinformed about the accuracy of the Bible.
Your information is gleaned from skimmers who disregard context, of verse, chapter, Testament, and Biblical context in entirety.
Society is severely misinformed about the accuracy of the Bible.
Their information is gleaned from skimmers who disregard context of verse, chapter, Testament, and Biblical context in it's entirety.
For the skeptics who carelessly skim the Bible, they only take peices out of context as needed to seal their point.
Its easy to do with a Book as complex, yet as simple as the Bible is.
Today's dynamics present an unfortunate culture, trained in bias humanistic education, full of themselves and self indulgent.
While imposing their many over sensitivities like malignant cancer into all of society. As all of their self indulgeances disregard the personal boundaries of others as their personal issues are forced onto all of us, as a result we live as if perpetually in jr high school!
To live according to every intolerance of the easily offended. To the free exercise of one specific faith silenced by its devalue. And by devaluing religious freedom they are taking it! Actually giving freedom to independently think and believe away!
If agenda makes it not valuable, its easy for the basis of your freedom away. The basis of free speech and free press, are a voice to indepenent thought and beliefs.
Society has trained the masses to be mobs, not individuals. When they realize it will be too late to get it back, its a march to enslavement.
Someone controls their beliefs, that will be more and more pronounced!
This steered generation is set to auto respond with thei unreasing arguments, meeting any challeging discussions regarding the Bible, with irration review.
While subjective truth is popular and widely accepted, people are trained to be steered, to relinquish independent thought for self evaluation and determination of truth or lies.
Most beliefs are thought out with as independent thought as deep as a days worth of steering memes.
And truth is so offensive, they gloat in the many floods of deceptions. Lies poured out though the internet where any blogger is a reliable quotable source.
The right to know information takes second place to every agenda, and no one cares if the truth is kept quiet.
The pressure of society is party to ridiculing anything of truth, they assault as to shame it, intent to force silence, and they gladly release freedoms, and are blind as real fools.
A flood of deception has been spoken of throughout the Bible, and explained in further detail by Jesus and the New Testament writers.
But as the flood has swept everyone from sensible reasoning, steered people in every way. Steered in many varieties of boldface lies, in "respected" fields of education, who are motivated only by self interests, driven by funding.
In unbiased professional integrity, fields of academia are supposed to be door keepers to a high standard, and should respect truth of disclosure, and should aspire to present information in a factual unbiased way.
Yet they are more prone to aquiesse in compromise of professional standards and give in to pressure and even more so willingly to supress truth regarding the Bible, and Israel, and to deface Christianity, and they raise their right hand and bear false witness against truth every day and the flood is poured while the cattle just drink everything they find without even a question.
In addition to the flood, Muslim countries militantly destroy artifacts that affirm Israel's history, in a holy war that goes back to roots surrounding Abraham, Isaac, and Ishmael.
Atheism and those who embrace the intolerant culture of the day spout whatever source, and al with bias steering promoted by an anti-faith culture.
The Bible can actually be proven if one is willing to review the evidence as an untainted jury, willing to use reasoning that is inherent in logic.
Which is actually rare. And the flood blinding them is judgement to evil hearts that welcome misinformation regarding God because the oppose Him and are gods to themselves.
As they demand their every whim of sensitivities to be bowed to, as they mow over the boundaries of others in their selfish self centered unreasonble demands on all without any honor.
Its God giving them and society over to devour themselved like animal minds who cant reason beyond their driven natural instincts, and internally steeped in depravity, and they can't understand anything good, its foriegn to them.
And all of it is designed purposely by dark forces in both the spiritual and natural, meant to enslave them, as they are glazed over by their hope in the world, while they raise up their fists to God, and march on many highways each one leading and descending to their deaths.
But also God is also outpouring of truth through sciences like Quantum Physics, and in math with probability beyond coincidence to the ridiculous, and insight, revelation, codes in text, artifacts, and many points of evidence in varieties of showing truth in varieties of method that to the reasoning mind would bear witness beyond a reasonable doubt in any fair trial in the highest courts.
And evidence is unfolding as never before even mock skeptics. But only the wise will look beyond the deceptions. So as the info highway sweeps people away, truth is easier to study than ever with free apps and websites making comparing texts to original languages of Hebrew and Greek.
As well as anything needed for the most complete study in every way, with more ease than ever before. If one wants truth.
I will include a few resourses for you personal study, so truth isnt so hard for you to come by.
Those who love darkness are most, and opening mouths they gladly drink it all in.
Those who love light need to go beyond page one, beyond the pages of deceptions promoted by the massive impact of unintelligent bitter blogs and posts, and even documents and sites that seem official to be of credible sourses.
When in reality education is hijacked by self promoting agendas with funding following popularity over actual truth.
The observable obvious dynamics, to consider. Jesus and apostles warned of deceptions, angels of light, cratiness, even in even Spirit filled churches.
Subtle is obvious, yet to many its not detectable at all. Revelations tells of the serpents river out of his mouth, a flood of lies and destruction.
Which is opposite from the River of Life. One flows from Him and one is poluted to sickness and death.
Job 12: 7-9
7 “But now ask the beasts, and let them teach you; And the birds of the heavens, and let them tell you.
8 “Or speak to the earth, and let it teach you; And let the fish of the sea declare to you.
9 “Who among all these does not know That the hand of theLord has done this
Blue Letter Bible with Interpretation Tools
https://www.blueletterbible.org/nasb/gen/1/1/s_1001
Encroaching Darkness by Chuck Missler
God Hates Globalization by Steve Cioccalanti
The Atheist Delusion - Movie
Beyond Coincidence Parts 1 & 2 Chuck Missler
Post #9
[Replying to post 4 by Escobar]
Lower intelligence may lie in the "lower" intelligence of the hearer.
For example here is and example of irrational arguments against the authenticity of the Bible, which affirms signature of Someone who actually knows.
An unintelligent argument, which is widely accepted as an intelligent argument attempting to show " the Bible as foolish"
Now think a moment science was bleeding people to death, when the Bible said the blood is the source of our bodies life.
Who was smarter first science or the Bible?
Unintelligent post below -
"Recently Student claimed that he had a list of information as to why cultists believe the Bible accounts are true, and even scientific. That information can be found here:
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 148#798148]
The question is, can the information in the Bible be trusted?
I will give my answer: Most certainly not.
Evidence 1) The claim that the Bible is harmonious from beginning to end is clearly and flagrantly fraudulent. Even in Gen 1 and 2 the creation stories are clearly different. In one man comes after the animals, and in the other man comes before the animals. Is this harmonious? Of course not."
So is this really as logical as this person states so arrogantly and knowingly?
Oxygen is useless to the body without blood to distribute the oxygen. Right?
Example: A corpse exists surrounded by oxygen.
The question is; in reality is oxygen then giving life to the corpse?
Lower intelligence may lie in the "lower" intelligence of the hearer.
For example here is and example of irrational arguments against the authenticity of the Bible, which affirms signature of Someone who actually knows.
An unintelligent argument, which is widely accepted as an intelligent argument attempting to show " the Bible as foolish"
Now think a moment science was bleeding people to death, when the Bible said the blood is the source of our bodies life.
Who was smarter first science or the Bible?
Unintelligent post below -
"Recently Student claimed that he had a list of information as to why cultists believe the Bible accounts are true, and even scientific. That information can be found here:
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 148#798148]
The question is, can the information in the Bible be trusted?
I will give my answer: Most certainly not.
Evidence 1) The claim that the Bible is harmonious from beginning to end is clearly and flagrantly fraudulent. Even in Gen 1 and 2 the creation stories are clearly different. In one man comes after the animals, and in the other man comes before the animals. Is this harmonious? Of course not."
So is this really as logical as this person states so arrogantly and knowingly?
Oxygen is useless to the body without blood to distribute the oxygen. Right?
Example: A corpse exists surrounded by oxygen.
The question is; in reality is oxygen then giving life to the corpse?
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That's a malformed question. Giving life is a term you're using, but it's not an inherently useful description for what we observe in reality.KNH777 wrote: The question is; in reality is oxygen then giving life to the corpse?[/b]
"Giving life" personifies the act, implying there's some active force/agent imbuing a property called life. But life is still a somewhat ambiguous term. You're going to have to describe it better.
To give a head-start, we know that oxygen is required for biological organisms to function. We also know that nutrients and heat are required for most common animals we see in nature (though bacteria need neither heat nor oxygen, simply nutrients), and so your narrow scope focusing on oxygen is what makes your question leading.
In reality, a combination of factors allow for the continuity of life. "Giving" life through some arbitrarily chosen means is about as nebulous as can be.
