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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01 ... ually.html

So it looks like the Great Wall of Trump might get built except Mexico is likely not going to pay for it. That's right we are :tongue:. Trump aides assure us Mexico will pay for it. Yet that will just be another broken promise. Just billions of more debt to add to the budget with no revenue to pay for it.

Instead of going after the demand for illegal workers we are going to spend billions on a silly wall.
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DanieltheDragon wrote: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01 ... ually.html

So it looks like the Great Wall of Trump might get built except Mexico is likely not going to pay for it. That's right we are :tongue:. Trump aides assure us Mexico will pay for it. Yet that will just be another broken promise. Just billions of more debt to add to the budget with no revenue to pay for it.

Instead of going after the demand for illegal workers we are going to spend billions on a silly wall.
Who actually pays for the wall is immaterial. As long as Trump tells his followers that Mexico paid for it, they will be satisfied. Trump rode a wave of lies and made up truths into the Oval Office, and there is no reason why he should not placate his supporters by continuing to say what they want to hear. Reality has nothing to do with it.
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DanieltheDragon wrote: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01 ... ually.html

So it looks like the Great Wall of Trump might get built except Mexico is likely not going to pay for it. That's right we are :tongue:. Trump aides assure us Mexico will pay for it. Yet that will just be another broken promise. Just billions of more debt to add to the budget with no revenue to pay for it.

Instead of going after the demand for illegal workers we are going to spend billions on a silly wall.
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Tired of the Nonsense wrote:
DanieltheDragon wrote: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01 ... ually.html

So it looks like the Great Wall of Trump might get built except Mexico is likely not going to pay for it. That's right we are :tongue:. Trump aides assure us Mexico will pay for it. Yet that will just be another broken promise. Just billions of more debt to add to the budget with no revenue to pay for it.

Instead of going after the demand for illegal workers we are going to spend billions on a silly wall.
Who actually pays for the wall is immaterial. As long as Trump tells his followers that Mexico paid for it, they will be satisfied. Trump rode a wave of lies and made up truths into the Oval Office, and there is no reason why he should not placate his supporters by continuing to say what they want to hear. Reality has nothing to do with it.
What politician doesn't ride a wave of lies and made up truths into the Oval Office?

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How much will the Great Wall of trump cost the American tax payer?
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[Replying to post 4 by Kenisaw]



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Sometimes, in the short term, the bully gets his way
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Kenisaw wrote:
What politician doesn't ride a wave of lies and made up truths into the Oval Office?
Two wrongs do not a right make.

The thing about Trump's many many lies, is that they don't seem to matter to his fans. But.. that doesn't mean that the Trump administration wont try to bully Mexico to pay for the wall one way or the other.

After all, there are more ways to skin a CAT.
I know that, being a cat.

In any case, US has more clout that Mexico. I think if there is enough will, the US can crush just about any other country. So, maybe Trump WILL get his wall payed by the Mexicans, after all !!

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Blastcat wrote: [Replying to post 4 by Kenisaw]



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Kenisaw wrote:
What politician doesn't ride a wave of lies and made up truths into the Oval Office?
Two wrongs do not a right make.
Agreed, but that is not the point I was making. The point I was making is that I find it quite silly when people pretend that one politician is so much more horrible and lying and cheating than another. They are all like that.
The thing about Trump's many many lies, is that they don't seem to matter to his fans. But.. that doesn't mean that the Trump administration wont try to bully Mexico to pay for the wall one way or the other.
They aren't going to build a wall. That isn't going to happen.
After all, there are more ways to skin a CAT.
I know that, being a cat.
I will never deny your expertise in all cat matters, oh feline one.
In any case, US has more clout that Mexico. I think if there is enough will, the US can crush just about any other country. So, maybe Trump WILL get his wall payed by the Mexicans, after all !!

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The government would have to buy a hell of a lot of private land in order to build the wall. That's why I don't think it will happen.

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[center]We can't trust ANY politicians, so.. how about anarchy?[/center]

Two wrongs do not a right make.
Kenisaw wrote:
Agreed, but that is not the point I was making. The point I was making is that I find it quite silly when people pretend that one politician is so much more horrible and lying and cheating than another. They are all like that.
So, lets kill em all.
We can't trust anyone to rule over us.

Chaos is better than representative government, you think?

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They aren't going to build a wall. That isn't going to happen.
That wonderful confidence sounds utterly delicious.

Kenisaw wrote:
The government would have to buy a hell of a lot of private land in order to build the wall. That's why I don't think it will happen.
You know, come to think of it, I've HEARD of governments appropriating land.
So what, it costs money.

They will get the evil Mexicans to pay for it all..
Do Mexicans have nukes?

Which army is more powerful, do you think, the American army or the Mexican army?

Bullies CAN get their way ( at least temporarily ) by pushing their weight around.
I learned that in grade school.

Didn't you?

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. . . The point I was making is that I find it quite silly when people pretend that one politician is so much more horrible and lying and cheating than another. They are all like that.
No! Trump has gone beyond . . . way, way beyond the pale with his gross disrespect for the sensitivities of MOST Americans -- and the world community. We can only hope his parallels with Hitler moderate. But then, Hitler didn't lie quite so much as you'd think -- he lived up to most of his promises that he wrote about in "Mein Kampf."

The thing about Trump's many many lies, is that they don't seem to matter to his fans. But.. that doesn't mean that the Trump administration wont try to bully Mexico to pay for the wall one way or the other.

They aren't going to build a wall. That isn't going to happen.
Agreed!

After all, there are more ways to skin a CAT.
I know that, being a cat.

I will never deny your expertise in all cat matters, oh feline one.


Agreed!

In any case, US has more clout that Mexico. I think if there is enough will, the US can crush just about any other country. So, maybe Trump WILL get his wall payed by the Mexicans, after all !!
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When it comes to bully politics, the sword is mightier that the pen.
You know, we had the chance to annex ALL of Mexico in 1846 but didn't do it. Tsk, tsk, too bad -- Mexico could have been the 51st state. No great wall, no travel restrictions, no Montezuma's revenge!
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Blastcat wrote: [Replying to post 7 by Kenisaw]

[center]We can't trust ANY politicians, so.. how about anarchy?[/center]

Two wrongs do not a right make.
Kenisaw wrote:
Agreed, but that is not the point I was making. The point I was making is that I find it quite silly when people pretend that one politician is so much more horrible and lying and cheating than another. They are all like that.
So, lets kill em all.
We can't trust anyone to rule over us.

Chaos is better than representative government, you think?
A rather bizarre extrapolation, even considering your sometimes humorous posts. :tongue:

No, what we need to do is pressure the media to ask real questions, and keep asking them when they do not get answered. We need a debate organization that is not owned by the political parties. We need inclusion of other parties in debates. We need fiscal transparency in campaign fundraising. I could write a book on this probably, but I think you get my point...

Kenisaw wrote:
They aren't going to build a wall. That isn't going to happen.
That wonderful confidence sounds utterly delicious.
Want to wager some tokens on it? :)

Kenisaw wrote:
The government would have to buy a hell of a lot of private land in order to build the wall. That's why I don't think it will happen.
You know, come to think of it, I've HEARD of governments appropriating land.
So what, it costs money.
Yeah, and because we have laws for just compensation in this country, it will cost a LOT of money. Way more than anyone will want to spend on it. It ain't gonna happen my feline friend...
They will get the evil Mexicans to pay for it all..
Do Mexicans have nukes?
Sure, how to you think they heat up their leftovers...
Bullies CAN get their way ( at least temporarily ) by pushing their weight around.
I learned that in grade school.

Didn't you?

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This isn't school though, is it...

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