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How did Noah keep the food from spoiling? Assuming the animals had to eat they would need copious amounts of vegetables, fruits, and meats. No freezing, refeogeration, and a high moisture content in the air would indicate the food stores would not last a year before spoiling occurred.
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Well, Noah would have had to have been a little creative. Like feeding the sloth pigs to the leopards, and the savanna cows to the lions. Never heard of a sloth pig or a savanna cow? Exactly!
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DanieltheDragon wrote: How did Noah keep the food from spoiling? Assuming the animals had to eat they would need copious amounts of vegetables, fruits, and meats. No freezing, refeogeration, and a high moisture content in the air would indicate the food stores would not last a year before spoiling occurred.
Simple. God would have ensured it through his godly magic. After all, the story already has God using godly magic to flood the entire planet, to the tops of the highest mountains and somehow ensuring that a family of 8 humans are able to avoid genetic bottleneck defects, and magically turning some of the previously herbivorous animals into carnivores.
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Maybe Noah had a fishing rod :D , though not sure that would help feed hungry tigers and lions that had allegedly walked all the way from India and Africa or Wallabies, Koala's and Kangaroo's who had miraculously swum across from Australia....

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We can see that in the many debates we have had on this site, theist members trying to argue how things might be possible by natural means, but all they do is create further impossible scenarios that then have to be justified. I can remember one member pointing out to a theist member here not that long ago something like "Do you really think your explanations through? In an attempt to prove the possibility of one scenario, you create further impossible scenarios. Why do you fail to even consider the flaws in your new explanations you have conjured up?"

Its like with this debate, all we end up is one scenario after the other which seems impossible and needs an explanation for.

Sooner or later you are going to arrive at the only explanation that can be given... magic.

Society and its morals evolve and will continue to evolve. The bible however remains the same and just requires more and more apologetics and claims of "metaphors" and "symbolism" to justify it.

Prayer is like rubbing an old bottle and hoping that a genie will pop out and grant you three wishes.

There is much about this world that is mind boggling and impressive, but I see no need whatsoever to put it down to magical super powered beings.


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DanieltheDragon wrote: How did Noah keep the food from spoiling? Assuming the animals had to eat they would need copious amounts of vegetables, fruits, and meats. No freezing, refeogeration, and a high moisture content in the air would indicate the food stores would not last a year before spoiling occurred.
How do you know the moisture content of the ark? What exactly it was? How it came?

If the ark was built by the ideas that I have shown in the ark plans, I think there wouldn’t have been any moisture problems, because the structure can be well ventilated.
http://www.kolumbus.fi/r.berg/Noahs_Ark.html

Meat or equivalent: eggs, fish from the sea, fast breeding animals, milk
Vegetables: What animal can’t survive without vegetables?
Fruits: What animal can’t survive without fruits?

Also, it is possible that in the ark there was animals that were not yet fully grown. Even many carnivores drink milk, when they are still puppies. Maybe Noah had 7 really good cows. :)

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Where did the animal pee go?
Did it collect on the bottom?

With the ambient temperature of the ark being "cool" due to contact with the water outside, and the sweat and respiration of the animals, "damp" would have been a disgusting understatement.

Then, with one window, how did they get enough oxygen? It's either water sound or leaky and well ventilated.

If the pee collected on the bottom, what about the toxic chemicals released as it rotted?

Hmmm, there's a lot more problems for you to read and ignore.

Here's something that will actually help you improve your ark:
Looking at your joints,I see how thin they are - if your joints can be so much thinner than the timber, then you can improve the ark by reducing the diameter of the timber, or by simply using less wood.
That should open up lots of trade-space for improvement!

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Because they were over a body of water. Unless they were in an arid desert the moisture content wasn't 0. Many animals lack certain enzymes to process certain foods.

Pandas for example can only eat bamboo, koalas can only eat eucalyptus leaves. Not all carnivores can eat fish milk or eggs. Some carnivores only eat fish, some carnivores only eat eggs.

It seems you need to study more about the biology of the animals you intend to keep in this ark to understand your food storage needs that must be preserved for a year or more considering there would be no sustainable food when they land.
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It's all magic!
Seriously, if we're going to entertain the outrageous concept of the Noah story with the animals and the boat and the water, asking logical questions like this is utterly pointless.
Besides, when all else fails: "God did it"

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