Fast and loose with the Truth.

[Elijah John]

This verse seems to strike at the heart of the notion of Biblical inerrancy:

Luke 24:45-46 English Standard Version (ESV)

45 Then he opened their minds to understand the Scriptures, 46 and said to them, “Thus it is written, that the Christ should suffer and on the third day rise from the dead,

Thing is, that "prophecy" is nowhere to be found in the OT/Hebrew Bible.

For debate, was Jesus wrong or lying? Or was Luke wrong or lying?

Or have we New Testament skeptics missed something?

[ttruscott]

This verse seems to strike at the heart of the notion of Biblical inerrancy:

Luke 24:45-46 English Standard Version (ESV)

45 Then he opened their minds to understand the Scriptures, 46 and said to them, “Thus it is written, that the Christ should suffer and on the third day rise from the dead,

To "open their minds to understand" must mean that the true understanding of what was written was not self evident or on the surface but hidden or remote.

In this way, "thus it is written" cannot be a specific 'word for word' prophecy which is not there so must refer to the hidden or deeper meaning of the various prophecies and Psalms etc, and probably more than one. There are prophecies hidden throughout scripture about His suffering and death starting with the skin coats being presented to Adam and Eve to replace their ineffective fig leaves to cover their sin in HIS Eyes, the coats depending on the shedding of blood as an immediate type, a prophecy of the anti-type fulfillment in His death covering our sins so we are not seen as sinful any longer.

Even the resurrection was prophesied in a hidden way in the story of Jonah as exposed in Matt 12:39 Jesus replied, “A wicked and adulterous generation demands a sign, but none will be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah. 40 For just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. On the surface no one would see the meaning of the sign of Jonah until He showed them what it meant and even then they only believed after they saw Him resurrected. This is why we are exhorted to seek Him and not our own understanding of what the scriptures mean...

[Monta]

[Replying to post 20 by ttruscott]


"Even the resurrection was prophesied in a hidden way in the story of Jonah as exposed in Matt 12:39 Jesus replied, “A wicked and adulterous generation demands a sign, but none will be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah. 40 For just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. On the surface no one would see the meaning of the sign of Jonah until He showed them what it meant and even then they only believed after they saw Him resurrected. This is why we are exhorted to seek Him and not our own understanding of what the scriptures mean..."

It takes lifetime of study and we are still only at the basics.

Swedenborg for one has seen the Holy Word in heaven glowing with incrdible light. As there are Temples of Wsdom and learning there also, it's going to be busy time...