Is the bible the word of God?

JehovahsWitness · Post by **JehovahsWitness** » Tue Feb 14, 2017 4:59 pm

Jehovahâ€™s Witnesses accept all the books 66 of the bible canon as the inspired Word of God and the final authority for Christian doctrine.

My question is this your view?
Why? Why Not?

EDIT

I'm sorry I should have said my question is directed at Christians. I understand if you don't believe there *is* a God there cannot by definition be a word of God.

OnceConvinced · Post by **OnceConvinced** » Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:35 pm

JehovahsWitness wrote: Jehovahâ€™s Witnesses accept all the books 66 of the bible canon as the inspired Word of God and the final authority for Christian doctrine.

My question is this your view?
Why? Why Not?

Definitely not. There's no way these books could be the inspired word of god. Here is one example that shows it isn't. Would a god inspire this type of witchdoctory?

Num. 5:12-31

This lot of so-called godly wisdom tells us that if we suspect our wife has committed adultery, she is to be tested by making her drink water mixed with dirt. If she gets sick, she is guilty

Does that sound like the word of God to you?

Checkpoint · Post by **Checkpoint** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:01 am

[Replying to post 19 by Checkpoint]

I see so many Christians here arguing that this or that scripture is the Apostle Paul's opinion on women rather than that that is what GOD thinks. That "of course" the flood didn't happen or that this scripture is in error because that scripture doesn't seem to agree with it,

it's easy to forget there are others that believe the bible is the perfect inerrant and faultless word of God.

I just want to add something to what I said in my reply.

The SDA people are strong Bible believers, pretty much like you JW folk are.

What you also have in common with them is a belief the Bible teaches what has come to be known as "conditional immortality".

JehovahsWitness · Post by **JehovahsWitness** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:37 am

[Replying to post 22 by Checkpoint]

Well I don't know what "conditional immorality" is but my OP wasn't really about the various interpretation of scripture but about the acceptance of scripture. As I said earlier there is usually in my experience a huge difference between what church leaders profess and what their on the ground membership believe ... I can't say I've met many SDA though and I don't think there are any regular posters here in that religion, which is a shame ...

rikuoamero · Post by **rikuoamero** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 3:35 pm

[Replying to post 11 by American Deist]

I can write something and make the claim that "this is the Word of God." I did not specify that God spoke to me or revealed those words in a dream. I am making the claim that I know the Word of God, and this is it. Charlatans will fall into this category, as will religious con artists.

Okay...assuming that you do this, how do I separate you from the charlatans and con artists who I presume will also say God spoke to them?
If you, Bob and Connor all claim to have been in the bank alone, I can check CCTV footage to see which of the three of you (if any).

Checkpoint · Post by **Checkpoint** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:20 pm

JehovahsWitness wrote: [Replying to post 22 by Checkpoint]

Well I don't know what "conditional immorality" is but my OP wasn't really about the various interpretation of scripture but about the acceptance of scripture. As I said earlier there is usually in my experience a huge difference between what church leaders profess and what their on the ground membership believe ... I can't say I've met many SDA though and I don't think there are any regular posters here in that religion, which is a shame ...

What JW and SDA believe the Bible teaches about man's mortality and about the fate of the unsaved, is known as "annihilationism" by its opponents and as "conditional immortality" by its proponents.

While JW are well represented on this forum, SDA and LDS have no obvious representation here.

JehovahsWitness · Post by **JehovahsWitness** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:29 pm

Checkpoint wrote:
JehovahsWitness wrote: [Replying to post 22 by Checkpoint]

Well I don't know what "conditional immorality" is but my OP wasn't really about the various interpretation of scripture but about the acceptance of scripture. As I said earlier there is usually in my experience a huge difference between what church leaders profess and what their on the ground membership believe ... I can't say I've met many SDA though and I don't think there are any regular posters here in that religion, which is a shame ...
What JW and SDA believe the Bible teaches about man's mortality and about the fate of the unsaved, is known as "annihilationism" by its opponents and as "conditional immortality" by its proponents.

While JW are well represented on this forum, SDA and LDS have no obvious representation here.

Yes that's a shame it would make for some interesting conversations. ...

BTW Obviously I am in a better position as to say what we Jehovah's Witnesses call our doctrine and than you or Wikipedia, and I assure you we never refer to "conditional immortality". ... but maybe when you refer to "proponents" of whatever it is, you are not referring to JWs.

Checkpoint · Post by **Checkpoint** » Thu Feb 16, 2017 5:07 pm

[Replying to post 26 by JehovahsWitness]

BTW Obviously I am in a better position as to say what we Jehovah's Witnesses call our doctrine and than you or Wikipedia, and I assure you we never refer to "conditional immortality". ... but maybe when you refer to "proponents" of whatever it is, you are not referring to JWs.

I was referring to believers who are neither JW nor SDA.

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