If Merneptah eliminated the Israeli, who are they?

[Willum]

Ozymandias, Merneptah it Roman diaspora, it seems the people who became today's Jewish have not only suffered from genocide like attempted by Nazi Germany, but have been successfully been removed from history, like many other peoples have been removed from history.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merneptah

Without a written culture, the chance is non-existent that any reasonable amount of truth survived any of these events. Certainly any alleged continuity is impossible.

So given this, what are modern-day Jews? and why is their "newly" started religion given the veneration of a non-extant history?

Why, in short, is it "possible" to trace a lineage back to Adam and Eve, when any such lineage even mythologically, was removed from history on more than one occasion?

[William]

Ozymandias, Merneptah it Roman diaspora, it seems the people who became today's Jewish have not only suffered from genocide like attempted by Nazi Germany, but have been successfully been removed from history, like many other peoples have been removed from history.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merneptah

Without a written culture, the chance is non-existent that any reasonable amount of truth survived any of these events. Certainly any alleged continuity is impossible.

So given this, what are modern-day Jews? and why is their "newly" started religion given the veneration of a non-extant history?

Why, in short, is it "possible" to tracr a lineage back to Adam and Eve, when any such lineage even mythologically, was removed from history on more than one occasion?

Are you saying that the claims of Merneptah are to be considered thru and accurate?

From the link:

There is also an account of the same events in the form of a poem from the Merneptah Stele, widely known as the Israel Stele, which makes reference to the supposed utter destruction of Israel in a campaign prior to his 5th year in Canaan: "Israel has been wiped out...its seed is no more." This is the first recognised ancient Egyptian record of the existence of Israel--"not as a country or city, but as a tribe" or people.

and that, therefore, 'Jews' don't actually exist, therefore those self identifying as being 'Jews' are mistaken?

Do you have a reason for why anyone (another tribe of people) would take on the identity of an extinct tribe of people?

[Willum]

[Replying to post 2 by William]

Inappropriate questions.

They were eliminated, it looks like at least twice, and why people would lay claim to a homeland for all eternity, and that God gave them rights to it for eternity, is very obvious, and repeated in history by many peoples.

RE: Jews don't actually exist...
No, the question is NOT that, it is who are they if those people who they claimed common ancestors with are eliminated and forgotten, otherwise, from history?

[William]

[Replying to post 2 by William]

Inappropriate questions.

They were eliminated, it looks like at least twice,...

How can a tribe of people be eliminated twice?

[Willum]

[Replying to William]

There you go again...

The people who lived in the region claimed by modern day Jewish were decimated or worse, twice in history, the only way it makes sense is if they were two or more different peoples, in other words, not the same people modern Jews claim as ancestors.

Which, interestingly, is what the topic is about.

If they aren't who they say they are, who are they?

[William]

[Replying to William]

There you go again...

The people who lived in the region claimed by modern day Jewish were decimated or worse, twice in history, the only way it makes sense is if they were two or more different peoples, in other words, not the same people modern Jews claim as ancestors.

Which, interestingly, is what the topic is about.

If they aren't who they say they are, who are they?

Why would they not be who they say they are?

(Obviously you may need to find a way to clarify what exactly it is you are pointing to in the OP.)

[Willum]

[Replying to William]

I guess you are having trouble:

The Jews claim continuity of their bloodline yet:
Two Egyptian rulers have either killed them to a man or decimated the people they claim relation to. Nebuchadnezzar had eliminated the line of David.

The Sadducee religion was eliminated by the Diaspora.

So there are four very good reasons to believe they are not who they say, or even who they believe they are.

So, if modern days Jewish are not genetically or culturally related to the people they claim, who are they?

[William]

[Replying to William]

I guess you are having trouble:

The Jews claim continuity of their bloodline yet:

Do they?

Two Egyptian rulers have either killed them to a man or decimated the people they claim relation to. Nebuchadnezzar had eliminated the line of David.

Did they?

The Sadducee religion was eliminated by the Diaspora.

What connection with DNA does religion have?

So there are four very good reasons to believe they are not who they say, or even who they believe they are.

Humans are funny about stuff like that. Does science trace the collective human source back to a woman in ancient Africa?

So, if modern days Jewish are not genetically or culturally related to the people they claim, who are they?

Aliens?

[Willum]

[Replying to post 8 by William]

Yes.
Yes.
DNA (or lineage), culture, religion, region and so on are the validity by which Jews claim to be the "Chosen" people.

I guess, if all you can do is play "stump the dummy," in other words, simply review my previous post, and turn my sentences into questions, you really can't contradict the premise of the OP.

[William]

[Replying to post 8 by William]

Yes.
Yes.
DNA (or lineage), culture, religion, region and so on are the validity by which Jews claim to be the "Chosen" people.

I guess, if all you can do is play "stump the dummy," in other words, simply review my previous post, and turn my sentences into questions, you really can't contradict the premise of the OP.

I am not trying to contradict but to understand.

Have you taken this to any Jews for their input? [link]