Q: How is just that God punishes an innocent 3rd party for your sins?
A: This is manifestly unjust and an insurmountable problem for religions that believe Jesus died for our sins but Jesus is not God.
Clearly God would not be so unjust and therefore God is Jesus, man in human form.
You know as well God didn't have to do it. Justice was satisfied by our punishment. God did it out of love and mercy. It's outrageous that God would care so much for us and sacrifice so much by chosing to live as a man. My response is awe and gratitude.
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Post #1Proverbs 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.
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Post #31Ok how does this address the part you quoted? How does this explain why the damned absolutely need to suffer an eternal torture in a lake of fire?Hawkins wrote:Because if you choose to leave God who is the only source of good, you will wind up the same as the devil does. You need Grace from God to spare you from that state. It is only legitimate for God to do so if Jesus is crucified the second time.Justin108 wrote:
So it's just a coincidence that it feels like a lake of fire? Couldn't God maybe just put these people to sleep for eternity? Why does he have to make them suffer?
That's why God is the God of living but not the God of the dead. Jesus' crucifixion is for the legitimate granting of Grace to those who are willing to abide by the New Covenant. If you choose to reject, you need another covenant to spare you from the havoc situation. Another covenant doesn't come with no price, you need Jesus to pay the bill the second time for such a covenant to be established. However Jesus' crucifixion is just a one time event which will never happen again.