JW's: The disappearing act of "Me" in John 14:14

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JW's: The disappearing act of "Me" in John 14:14

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John 14:14
If you ask Me anything in My name, I will do it. (NASB)

A. This passage teaches that the Lord Jesus is the proper recipient of prayer.
1. Hans Bietenhard: The unity of the Son with the Father finds expressions in the fact that prayer in the name of Jesus can be directed to either Father or Son (TDNT 5:276, onoma).
2. See more citations by Nick Norelli as found here:
https://rdtwot.wordpress.com/2011/07/13 ... john-1414/

B. In the 'New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures' by the Watchtower John 14:14 reads:
If you ask anything in my name, I will do it.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/l/r1/lp-e?q=John+14%3A14

C. In their 'Kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures' the "Me" appears in the Greek text of John 14:14.

D. Since the Jehovah's Witnesses teach that the Lord Jesus is not to be prayed to my question to any Jehovah's Witness is this:
Is there any other instance anywhere in the 'Kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures' where a Greek word was not translated into English that would alter the meaning of the passage to the level it does in John 14:14?

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I too agree that it doesn't change Matthew 6:9. It complements it.

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Faber wrote: I too agree that it doesn't change Matthew 6:9. It complements it.
How?

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The Father is the proper recipient of prayer (Matthew 6:9).
The Lord Jesus is the proper recipient of prayer (John 14:14).

One does not cancel out the other.
One does not contradict the other.


They both complement one another.

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Faber wrote: The Father is the proper recipient of prayer (Matthew 6:9).
The Lord Jesus is the proper recipient of prayer (John 14:14).

One does not cancel out the other.
One does not contradict the other.


They both complement one another.
Your wish to stick like glue to one translation of John 14:14 is counterproductive. Whether "me" is there or not is inconsequential. Here is another version that does not say "me."

"If ye ask anything in my name I will do it." (Young's Literal Translation)


I'm sure there are more.

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onewithhim wrote:
Faber wrote: The Father is the proper recipient of prayer (Matthew 6:9).
The Lord Jesus is the proper recipient of prayer (John 14:14).

One does not cancel out the other.
One does not contradict the other.


They both complement one another.
Your wish to stick like glue to one translation of John 14:14 is counterproductive.
There isn't just one. I can cite numerous others.

Here's Mounce:
If you ask me anything in my name I will do it.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?s ... ion=MOUNCE

See article here:
http://www.forananswer.org/John/Jn14_14.htm

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Faber wrote:
onewithhim wrote:
Faber wrote: The Father is the proper recipient of prayer (Matthew 6:9).
The Lord Jesus is the proper recipient of prayer (John 14:14).

One does not cancel out the other.
One does not contradict the other.


They both complement one another.
Your wish to stick like glue to one translation of John 14:14 is counterproductive.
There isn't just one. I can cite numerous others.

Here's Mounce:
If you ask me anything in my name I will do it.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?s ... ion=MOUNCE

See article here:
http://www.forananswer.org/John/Jn14_14.htm
I have also cited versions of the Bible that do not include "me," and as you have seen, hopefully, there are others besides the New World Translation.

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Most modern versions contain "Me" for good reason.
In fact, it is categorized as "B" in the Greek New Testament of the United Bible Society (c. 1983).

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