I would like to ask a yes or no question, but before asking it, I request a sworn oath from atheists to answer either yes or no or give no response at all. No other comments.
Now, for this first half of the OP, what atheists can do this? that is, promise to remain silent, or give a yes and no response and no other?
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How long is this bet supposed to last for? At the time of writing, it's been three days since this thread was created. No response from OP.cnearing wrote: My bet is that Liam chickens out and fails to post the actual question.
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rikuoamero wrote:How long is this bet supposed to last for? At the time of writing, it's been three days since this thread was created. No response from OP.cnearing wrote: My bet is that Liam chickens out and fails to post the actual question.
Hah, yeah. Not a well-formed bet. Think of it as more of a rhetorical goad.
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Wait a minute, was a bet made, yes or no?cnearing wrote:rikuoamero wrote:How long is this bet supposed to last for? At the time of writing, it's been three days since this thread was created. No response from OP.cnearing wrote: My bet is that Liam chickens out and fails to post the actual question.
Hah, yeah. Not a well-formed bet. Think of it as more of a rhetorical goad.
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benchwarmer wrote:Wait a minute, was a bet made, yes or no?cnearing wrote:rikuoamero wrote:How long is this bet supposed to last for? At the time of writing, it's been three days since this thread was created. No response from OP.cnearing wrote: My bet is that Liam chickens out and fails to post the actual question.
Hah, yeah. Not a well-formed bet. Think of it as more of a rhetorical goad.
Well, no, obviously not.
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Post #25I guess we can only conclude that the exchange would have gone like the scene from My Cousin Vinnie:
D.A. Jim Trotter: Now, uh, Ms. Vito, being an expert on general automotive knowledge, can you tell me... what would the correct ignition timing be on a 1955 Bel Air Chevrolet, with a 327 cubic-inch engine and a four-barrel carburetor?
Mona Lisa Vito: It's a bullshit question.
D.A. Jim Trotter: Does that mean that you can't answer it?
Mona Lisa Vito: It's a bullshit question, it's impossible to answer.
D.A. Jim Trotter: Impossible because you don't know the answer!
Mona Lisa Vito: Nobody could answer that question!
D.A. Jim Trotter: Your Honor, I move to disqualify Ms. Vito as a "expert witness"!
Judge Chamberlain Haller: Can you answer the question?
Mona Lisa Vito: No, it is a trick question!
Judge Chamberlain Haller: Why is it a trick question?
Vinny Gambini: [to Bill] Watch this.
Mona Lisa Vito: 'Cause Chevy didn't make a 327 in '55, the 327 didn't come out till '62. And it wasn't offered in the Bel Air with a four-barrel carb till '64. However, in 1964, the correct ignition timing would be four degrees before top-dead-center.
D.A. Jim Trotter: Well... um... she's acceptable, Your Honor.
D.A. Jim Trotter: Now, uh, Ms. Vito, being an expert on general automotive knowledge, can you tell me... what would the correct ignition timing be on a 1955 Bel Air Chevrolet, with a 327 cubic-inch engine and a four-barrel carburetor?
Mona Lisa Vito: It's a bullshit question.
D.A. Jim Trotter: Does that mean that you can't answer it?
Mona Lisa Vito: It's a bullshit question, it's impossible to answer.
D.A. Jim Trotter: Impossible because you don't know the answer!
Mona Lisa Vito: Nobody could answer that question!
D.A. Jim Trotter: Your Honor, I move to disqualify Ms. Vito as a "expert witness"!
Judge Chamberlain Haller: Can you answer the question?
Mona Lisa Vito: No, it is a trick question!
Judge Chamberlain Haller: Why is it a trick question?
Vinny Gambini: [to Bill] Watch this.
Mona Lisa Vito: 'Cause Chevy didn't make a 327 in '55, the 327 didn't come out till '62. And it wasn't offered in the Bel Air with a four-barrel carb till '64. However, in 1964, the correct ignition timing would be four degrees before top-dead-center.
D.A. Jim Trotter: Well... um... she's acceptable, Your Honor.
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Whatever you do don't imply that these continuous sorts of adventures to nowhere in particular might be the result of a kind of a reality disconnect. Not that there is anything wrong with it!rikuoamero wrote:How long is this bet supposed to last for? At the time of writing, it's been three days since this thread was created. No response from OP.cnearing wrote: My bet is that Liam chickens out and fails to post the actual question.
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Re: A Weird Test
Post #28Everyone knows that the new for 1955 small block Chevy V8 was a 265 cubic inch overhead valve engine... don't they? Well they would if they were 16 in 1964 and their father had one of those 265's in his pristine 55 Chevy. He was perfectly happy to let me swap out that weak 265 for a 283, IF I not only did all the work, but paid all the bills. I was 16. I could barely afford to go to McDonalds.KenRU wrote: I guess we can only conclude that the exchange would have gone like the scene from My Cousin Vinnie:
D.A. Jim Trotter: Now, uh, Ms. Vito, being an expert on general automotive knowledge, can you tell me... what would the correct ignition timing be on a 1955 Bel Air Chevrolet, with a 327 cubic-inch engine and a four-barrel carburetor?
Mona Lisa Vito: It's a bullshit question.
D.A. Jim Trotter: Does that mean that you can't answer it?
Mona Lisa Vito: It's a bullshit question, it's impossible to answer.
D.A. Jim Trotter: Impossible because you don't know the answer!
Mona Lisa Vito: Nobody could answer that question!
D.A. Jim Trotter: Your Honor, I move to disqualify Ms. Vito as a "expert witness"!
Judge Chamberlain Haller: Can you answer the question?
Mona Lisa Vito: No, it is a trick question!
Judge Chamberlain Haller: Why is it a trick question?
Vinny Gambini: [to Bill] Watch this.
Mona Lisa Vito: 'Cause Chevy didn't make a 327 in '55, the 327 didn't come out till '62. And it wasn't offered in the Bel Air with a four-barrel carb till '64. However, in 1964, the correct ignition timing would be four degrees before top-dead-center.
D.A. Jim Trotter: Well... um... she's acceptable, Your Honor.
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If you folks gave him a chance to ask instead of mocking the topic, perhaps he would have.rikuoamero wrote: I see liam still hasn't asked whatever question he was going to ask. Chalk up another thread he's abandoned I guess...?
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Re: A Weird Test
Post #30.
[Replying to post 28 by Tired of the Nonsense]
I was 25 in 1964 -- and owned a 265 powered Chevrolet (1955 if memory serves). It was a sweetheart. I later owned big block GM cars, including a 67 GTO and an SS 396 (1970?) -- both four speed four barrel.
For the last few decades my primary vehicles have been pickup trucks -- and since 90s Dodge Cummins 4x4 (have a '92 and '93). I now also have a 98' VW Beetle that is convenient and cheap to drive (and saves wear on expensive machinery).
[Replying to post 28 by Tired of the Nonsense]
I was 25 in 1964 -- and owned a 265 powered Chevrolet (1955 if memory serves). It was a sweetheart. I later owned big block GM cars, including a 67 GTO and an SS 396 (1970?) -- both four speed four barrel.
For the last few decades my primary vehicles have been pickup trucks -- and since 90s Dodge Cummins 4x4 (have a '92 and '93). I now also have a 98' VW Beetle that is convenient and cheap to drive (and saves wear on expensive machinery).
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